c&l vs bbk

03DSG · 08-07-2006, 04:58 PM

ok guys, I want some advice on plenums. and im going to put this out in advance, please dont just put accufab. I know they are top notch, but also cost a pretty penny so they are not an option right now. so was wondering which would be better, the bbk plenum (which i think looks better) or the c&l plenum. my stang has almost zero mods, other than a cat back and drop in filter. a s/c is in the future but not the near future and the engine will most likely get stroked when that happens, so im not looking long term in respect to either of these plenums not working well with forced air. i know ill have to pay twice for it but by that time with 2 degree's with one in engineering money wont be a problem.

so guys with either of these plenums, give your likes and/or dislikes about them. quality issues and the like. ty in advance..

08-07-2006, 05:06 PM

I have a Dragon plenum and I like it. sorry its not one of the ones listed...but IMO if miles per hour sells it, its good.

spike_africa · 08-07-2006, 05:26 PM

i have a gms which is a direct copy of the C&L and i have a bbk TB i spent i think 170shipped total for both and i am happy with the little extra power i got from 4k and up. I need to go run my car to see hwo much this helped et and miles per hour.

Twin Turbo 330 · 08-07-2006, 05:33 PM

I have a CnL and i noticed a difference. I would look on ebay for a used one to save some money.

WaterDR · 08-07-2006, 07:38 PM

Plenums are all about the same. About two years ago these were the rage. There is only about 2 hp difference between the best and the worst.

jjtgiants · 08-08-2006, 09:17 AM

I also had a C&L on my 03 GT and really liked it. The quality was good and noticed some power increase in the upper RPMS....for me personally, I will never put anything BBK on my car....It's a personal choice and opinion..... their products are cheaper for a reason....remember, you usually get what you pay for!

Also, if you end up going with C&L I think they recommend a 75mm throttle body to get maximum power out of the plenum.

Saleen S330 · 08-08-2006, 11:13 AM

I've had a C&L and now i have the accufab, i think the C&L was better. the C&L had a smooth casting on the inside, i had to use a dremel to smooth out the accufab.

bossman302 · 08-08-2006, 11:31 AM

I have the BBK 75MM Throttle body/Plenum comb. I'm real happy with the way it has performed and it looks good. I don't think you can go wrong with either.

cobra1923 · 08-08-2006, 11:57 AM

I recently switched from a C&L plenum / BBK 75MM TB to the accufab 75 plenum and TB. From a performance perspective they felt the same. The BBK TB was more difficult to set-up and get to idle correctly and the throttle response wasn't as smooth (it felt like you had a little hard spot to push through off of idle, like the pedal was harder to push) it made it jumpy to transition from foot off accelerator (coasting) to foot back on the accelerator. Once you get above 1000 RPM it was just as smooth as the accufab. I can't speak to BBK plenum, I'm sure it's the same as all the others but I did really like the C&L plenum and the accufab

03DSG · 08-08-2006, 12:56 PM

wow, great info guys thanks so much. i kind of firgured the differance in gains would be minimal, its the over all quality of the product i am worried about. but i guess its up to the overall look of each one cause it sounds like they are both a good choice. as far as a 75mm TB, is there any other companies besides bbk, accufab and pro poducts (which i wont touch with a ten foot pole) that make 75 mm TB. cause i saw a concern raised with the BBK, has anyone else had issues?

bossman302 · 08-08-2006, 01:08 PM

I haven't has any issue with my BBK. Install was easy and didn't have any issue with the idle.

The only other TB I can think of is Edelbrock but from what I heard it's made by BBK and cost more.

08-07-2006, 04:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
03DSG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 552	c&l vs bbk ok guys, I want some advice on plenums. and im going to put this out in advance, please dont just put accufab. I know they are top notch, but also cost a pretty penny so they are not an option right now. so was wondering which would be better, the bbk plenum (which i think looks better) or the c&l plenum. my stang has almost zero mods, other than a cat back and drop in filter. a s/c is in the future but not the near future and the engine will most likely get stroked when that happens, so im not looking long term in respect to either of these plenums not working well with forced air. i know ill have to pay twice for it but by that time with 2 degree's with one in engineering money wont be a problem. so guys with either of these plenums, give your likes and/or dislikes about them. quality issues and the like. ty in advance..

08-07-2006, 05:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 6,971	i have a gms which is a direct copy of the C&L and i have a bbk TB i spent i think 170shipped total for both and i am happy with the little extra power i got from 4k and up. I need to go run my car to see hwo much this helped et and miles per hour. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

08-07-2006, 05:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
Twin Turbo 330 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 393	I have a CnL and i noticed a difference. I would look on ebay for a used one to save some money. __________________ 03 Sonic Blue GT (SOLD) Working on an 87' Notch now!

08-07-2006, 07:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,363	Plenums are all about the same. About two years ago these were the rage. There is only about 2 hp difference between the best and the worst. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

08-08-2006, 11:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
bossman302 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 172	I have the BBK 75MM Throttle body/Plenum comb. I'm real happy with the way it has performed and it looks good. I don't think you can go wrong with either. __________________ Mineral gray 2002 Mustang GT manual 5 speed. Maximum Motor sport suspension. Forge 4.6 with VT stg 2 cams. BBK 75mm tb and LT's. JLT RAI. 290 HP and 308 tq at the wheels.

08-07-2006, 05:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
zigzaggthefag321 Posts: n/a	I have a Dragon plenum and I like it. sorry its not one of the ones listed...but IMO if miles per hour sells it, its good.

08-08-2006, 09:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
jjtgiants jjtgiants Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dublin, CA Posts: 3,678	I also had a C&L on my 03 GT and really liked it. The quality was good and noticed some power increase in the upper RPMS....for me personally, I will never put anything BBK on my car....It's a personal choice and opinion..... their products are cheaper for a reason....remember, you usually get what you pay for! Also, if you end up going with C&L I think they recommend a 75mm throttle body to get maximum power out of the plenum.

08-08-2006, 11:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
Saleen S330 Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 900	I've had a C&L and now i have the accufab, i think the C&L was better. the C&L had a smooth casting on the inside, i had to use a dremel to smooth out the accufab.

08-08-2006, 11:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
cobra1923 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baltimore Posts: 570	I recently switched from a C&L plenum / BBK 75MM TB to the accufab 75 plenum and TB. From a performance perspective they felt the same. The BBK TB was more difficult to set-up and get to idle correctly and the throttle response wasn't as smooth (it felt like you had a little hard spot to push through off of idle, like the pedal was harder to push) it made it jumpy to transition from foot off accelerator (coasting) to foot back on the accelerator. Once you get above 1000 RPM it was just as smooth as the accufab. I can't speak to BBK plenum, I'm sure it's the same as all the others but I did really like the C&L plenum and the accufab __________________ 2003 10th Anniversary Cobra Convertible All Stock and staying that way... well maybe some pipes since it's so quiet..ahhhh! it's a sickness 1995 mustang GT vert - all black (almost back together)

08-08-2006, 12:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
03DSG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 552	wow, great info guys thanks so much. i kind of firgured the differance in gains would be minimal, its the over all quality of the product i am worried about. but i guess its up to the overall look of each one cause it sounds like they are both a good choice. as far as a 75mm TB, is there any other companies besides bbk, accufab and pro poducts (which i wont touch with a ten foot pole) that make 75 mm TB. cause i saw a concern raised with the BBK, has anyone else had issues?

08-08-2006, 01:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
bossman302 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 172	I haven't has any issue with my BBK. Install was easy and didn't have any issue with the idle. The only other TB I can think of is Edelbrock but from what I heard it's made by BBK and cost more. __________________ Mineral gray 2002 Mustang GT manual 5 speed. Maximum Motor sport suspension. Forge 4.6 with VT stg 2 cams. BBK 75mm tb and LT's. JLT RAI. 290 HP and 308 tq at the wheels.

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