looking for suggestions

Onetooth13 · 07-30-2006, 08:42 AM

Accufab 75mm tb and Xcal 2 on their way. Should be here in a few days. Already have MAC cai, ford racing 9mm plug wires, O/R X-pipe, 40 series 2 chamber flowmasters, 180 degree thermostat, Steeda pullies. Oh yeah, its a 97 GT. I love the sound, but I am of course, looking for more hp. What are your suggestions for the next step? I mean, what's the biggest bang for the buck that I still haven't done? I know NOS, but I'm a little nervous about shooting that in a 83K engine. And yes unfortunately, I can't swing the supercharger, so we'll put a star next to that one and move on. Anyway, I've been reading a bunch of the threads on here the past few weeks and thought I would turn this over to the masses. Please help.

*Lances03SVT* · 07-30-2006, 08:45 AM

GEAR's!!!!!!!!

Biggest bang for the buck out there!!

*Lances03SVT* · 07-30-2006, 08:46 AM

Also a PI intake swap would do alot with some new head's.

07-30-2006, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lances03GT

GEAR's!!!!!!!!

Biggest bang for the buck out there!!

:stupid:

spike_africa · 07-30-2006, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lances03GT

GEAR's!!!!!!!!

Biggest bang for the buck out there!!

i have a hard time seeing that bang like nitrous does lol.

But Nitrous (NOS is a company) is safe when used correctly. Go read the power adder section there is alot of good info in there.

*Lances03SVT* · 07-30-2006, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike_africa

i have a hard time seeing that bang like nitrous does lol.

But Nitrous (NOS is a company) is safe when used correctly. Go read the power adder section there is alot of good info in there.

Yea but I don't see that as a bolt on

*03gtmustang* · 07-30-2006, 08:58 AM

Good because its not a bolt on, but a lot of people use it that way.

Cobra King · 07-30-2006, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onetooth13

Accufab 75mm tb and Xcal 2 on their way. Should be here in a few days. Already have MAC cai, ford racing 9mm plug wires, O/R X-pipe, 40 series 2 chamber flowmasters, 180 degree thermostat, Steeda pullies. Oh yeah, its a 97 GT. I love the sound, but I am of course, looking for more hp. What are your suggestions for the next step? I mean, what's the biggest bang for the buck that I still haven't done? I know NOS, but I'm a little nervous about shooting that in a 83K engine. And yes unfortunately, I can't swing the supercharger, so we'll put a star next to that one and move on. Anyway, I've been reading a bunch of the threads on here the past few weeks and thought I would turn this over to the masses. Please help.

Maybe put some long tubes? But the best bang for the buck is probably 4.10 gears.

*madmatt* · 07-30-2006, 01:31 PM

Gears and a PI swap will do wonders for your car. Then spray it if you feel safe.

Rejekt · 07-30-2006, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmatt

Gears and a PI swap will do wonders for your car. Then spray it if you feel safe.

:stupid:

Saleen S330 · 07-30-2006, 02:55 PM

Definitely Gears

Onetooth13 · 07-30-2006, 03:12 PM

Alright, alright, gears, I get it. Still do a good bit of HW driving in this thing though, so I was thinking more in the area of 3.73's. Is that still worth the cash. And for the record, what is the stock ratio in the '97 GT's? And who in your opinions is the best manufacturer of gears? (if that is even an issue) God I ask a lot of ?'s Thanks for all the replies, I'll get a pic of my slow ride up here soon.

Rejekt · 07-30-2006, 03:41 PM

Mustang Tunings Official Gear Thread

http://www.mustangboards.com/general...ar-thread.html

MattJ · 07-30-2006, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rejekt

Mustang Tunings Official Gear Thread

http://www.mustangboards.com/general...ar-thread.html

Hey, thats a pretty informative thread!!! GOOD FIND!!

Saleen S330 · 07-30-2006, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onetooth13

Alright, alright, gears, I get it. Still do a good bit of HW driving in this thing though, so I was thinking more in the area of 3.73's. Is that still worth the cash. And for the record, what is the stock ratio in the '97 GT's? And who in your opinions is the best manufacturer of gears? (if that is even an issue) God I ask a lot of ?'s Thanks for all the replies, I'll get a pic of my slow ride up here soon.

I've read the 97's could have came with either 2.73.s, 3.08's or 3.27's. And this is reading from my FORD shop manual for 1997 Mustangs. I would say Ford Racing makes the best but I like motive also. Usually people say motive will whine but usually they don't. Also if you pack the shims to tight, it will make it whine with any gears.

But with what ever gears your car has 3.73's will be a nice jump and won't hurt highway

r3dn3ck · 07-31-2006, 08:27 AM

PI swap and gears. 3.73's will be plenty of fun and are more streetable than 4.10's IMHO <flame suit on>. You'll probably stay about the same on fuel mileage with 3.73's.

The PI swap is a MAJOR upgrade. Nominal results with a tune are 260-280rwhp with just stock PI heads/cam/intake. It bumps your compression to 10:1 though so you'll end up with at least 89 octane needs and maybe 91 if you get a tune that's more aggressive than stock.

Since I haven't done this in a while... a 5.4L swap would wake the hell out of your car. Massive performance increase. Right Saleen S330?

Onetooth13 · 07-31-2006, 07:18 PM

whoa whoa whoa. r3dn3ck, you're telling me that the '97, which is only 215 hp stock, is 260-280 with new heads and a tune? am I missing something?? If not then you've definately got my attention. Let me know where I misunderstood you, and if not, then I need heads pronto!!!

spike_africa · 08-01-2006, 06:55 AM

Yes becuase of the extra compression and the better flow of the heads and intake you will see massive power results. The 96-98 motors with PI top ends make more power then us PI headed guys stock becuase of your extra compression makes more power.

r3dn3ck · 08-01-2006, 08:15 AM

Spike as usual has taken the words directly out of my mouth. I've seen results as high as 300rwhp with a little porting (very little) and a set of only slightly better cams. In fact, the best one I've seen was even still using the stock TB, MAF, intake tube and plenum and netted 307rwhp with a cursory tune.

07-30-2006, 08:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
Onetooth13 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Coatesville, IN Posts: 5	looking for suggestions Accufab 75mm tb and Xcal 2 on their way. Should be here in a few days. Already have MAC cai, ford racing 9mm plug wires, O/R X-pipe, 40 series 2 chamber flowmasters, 180 degree thermostat, Steeda pullies. Oh yeah, its a 97 GT. I love the sound, but I am of course, looking for more hp. What are your suggestions for the next step? I mean, what's the biggest bang for the buck that I still haven't done? I know NOS, but I'm a little nervous about shooting that in a 83K engine. And yes unfortunately, I can't swing the supercharger, so we'll put a star next to that one and move on. Anyway, I've been reading a bunch of the threads on here the past few weeks and thought I would turn this over to the masses. Please help.

07-30-2006, 08:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lances03SVT Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Carthage, Missouri Posts: 9,247	GEAR's!!!!!!!! Biggest bang for the buck out there!! __________________ _______________________ 2003 Cobra SOLD

07-30-2006, 08:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
Lances03SVT Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Carthage, Missouri Posts: 9,247	Also a PI intake swap would do alot with some new head's. __________________ _______________________ 2003 Cobra SOLD

07-30-2006, 08:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
03gtmustang Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3,247	Good because its not a bolt on, but a lot of people use it that way. __________________ D&D Auto Detailing -Dan

07-30-2006, 01:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,929	Gears and a PI swap will do wonders for your car. Then spray it if you feel safe. __________________ RPMPlanets

07-30-2006, 02:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Saleen S330 Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 900	Definitely Gears

07-30-2006, 03:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
Onetooth13 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Coatesville, IN Posts: 5	Alright, alright, gears, I get it. Still do a good bit of HW driving in this thing though, so I was thinking more in the area of 3.73's. Is that still worth the cash. And for the record, what is the stock ratio in the '97 GT's? And who in your opinions is the best manufacturer of gears? (if that is even an issue) God I ask a lot of ?'s Thanks for all the replies, I'll get a pic of my slow ride up here soon.

07-30-2006, 03:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
Rejekt Banned Forever Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 756	Mustang Tunings Official Gear Thread http://www.mustangboards.com/general...ar-thread.html __________________ 2002 Mineral Grey Mustang GT - Mods - K&N FIPK, SLP Loudmouth Catback, Roush Stage 3 front fascia, Front - 18x9 Rear -18x10 Deep dish black bullitts, Bullitt gas cap, Mach 1000, Grill delete, H&R Super Sport Springs, Maximum Motorsports 4 bolt caster / camber plates. Soon to come - 3.90's

07-31-2006, 08:27 AM	#16 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,018	PI swap and gears. 3.73's will be plenty of fun and are more streetable than 4.10's IMHO <flame suit on>. You'll probably stay about the same on fuel mileage with 3.73's. The PI swap is a MAJOR upgrade. Nominal results with a tune are 260-280rwhp with just stock PI heads/cam/intake. It bumps your compression to 10:1 though so you'll end up with at least 89 octane needs and maybe 91 if you get a tune that's more aggressive than stock. Since I haven't done this in a while... a 5.4L swap would wake the hell out of your car. Massive performance increase. Right Saleen S330?

07-31-2006, 07:18 PM	#17 (permalink)
Onetooth13 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Coatesville, IN Posts: 5	whoa whoa whoa. r3dn3ck, you're telling me that the '97, which is only 215 hp stock, is 260-280 with new heads and a tune? am I missing something?? If not then you've definately got my attention. Let me know where I misunderstood you, and if not, then I need heads pronto!!! __________________ Accufab 75mm TB/plenum combo, MAC (CAI, chrome radiator hoses), Ford Racing (9mm plug wires, aluminum drive shaft, FR500 steering wheel), Xcaliber II, Cobra smoked headlights, Pro 5.0 shifter, Saleen S281 wing, Steeda pullies, Jet 180 thermostat, AFS 18x9 and 18x10.5 wheels w/ Eagle F1 GS-D3 255/40 and 285/35 tires

08-01-2006, 06:55 AM	#18 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,426	Yes becuase of the extra compression and the better flow of the heads and intake you will see massive power results. The 96-98 motors with PI top ends make more power then us PI headed guys stock becuase of your extra compression makes more power. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

08-01-2006, 08:15 AM	#19 (permalink)
r3dn3ck Wowbagger hates me too! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Magrathea/California Posts: 7,018	Spike as usual has taken the words directly out of my mouth. I've seen results as high as 300rwhp with a little porting (very little) and a set of only slightly better cams. In fact, the best one I've seen was even still using the stock TB, MAF, intake tube and plenum and netted 307rwhp with a cursory tune.

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