Which Transmission?

CCM · 02-22-2006, 06:05 PM

Alright, I'm going to be swapping out my Auto for a manual tranny in the next few months, which tranny do you think I should get? I'm struggling between these 3: (All would be brand new/rebuilt)

1. Tremec T-56 (stock '03 tranny)
2. Tremec TKO-500
3. Tremec 3650 (stock GT tranny)

It's mostly between the latter two now, because of cost and install snags with the 6-speed.

I'd also love to hear from anyone who has done an auto to manual swap, just advice, your experience, satisfaction, etc. Thanks!

csledd · 02-22-2006, 06:06 PM

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Madi98GT · 02-22-2006, 06:32 PM

What do you plan on doing with your car? Street car? Drag?

Mug11 · 02-22-2006, 06:39 PM

Wait till the auto blows up.. not worth the money.

Icefreezen · 02-22-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mug11

Wait till the auto blows up.. not worth the money.

No kidding......but by that time i'll need a new motor so i'll just transplant a forged motor and tranny at the same time...bwahaha no point in wasting a good tranny

CCM · 02-22-2006, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mug11

Wait till the auto blows up.. not worth the money.

No thanks. I've decided and I'm not changing my mind. And to answer your question Madi98GT, it's going to be mostly a DD, with occasional visits to strips and tracks.

Madi98GT · 02-22-2006, 07:18 PM

Not sure how much power you are putting down, but the 3650 can take a good amount of abuse. From a cost standpoint, that's the best option.

customstang · 02-22-2006, 07:48 PM

My friend did a swap he said the hardest part was probably getting the new clutch pedal installed in the floor and getting the stuff cut out right.

He bought a junk tranny for like $50 and rebuilt it, ended up costing him under a grand

spike_africa · 02-22-2006, 07:53 PM

since you wont be drag racing much i would do the T3650 i love my tranny it takes a ton of abuse from me with many many street races,drag strip runs with drag radials and a 125shot of nitrous.

stanger00 · 02-22-2006, 07:55 PM

i priced out everything i would need for a swap. with a rebuilt t56 the total setup was 3700. expensive. but good luck

CCM · 02-23-2006, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by stanger00

i priced out everything i would need for a swap. with a rebuilt t56 the total setup was 3700. expensive. but good luck

I doubt it but does that 3700 include an install price?

caballo · 02-23-2006, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by stanger00

i priced out everything i would need for a swap. with a rebuilt t56 the total setup was 3700. expensive. but good luck

For that much you can get a brand new Viper Spec T56 tranny kit from D and D Performance...

stanger00 · 02-23-2006, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by caballo

For that much you can get a brand new Viper Spec T56 tranny kit from D and D Performance...

there are a lot of other items that will nickel and dime you. flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, pedal's, wiring harness, crossmember, driveshaft, transmission, clutch cable, firewall quadrant, some kind of shifter, knob, and some other things. thats with the cobra spec tranny from D&D performance. add all that stuff and tell me what number you come up with

stanger00 · 02-23-2006, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CCM

I doubt it but does that 3700 include an install price?

thats all your self.

caballo · 02-23-2006, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stanger00

there are a lot of other items that will nickel and dime you. flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, pedal's, wiring harness, crossmember, driveshaft, transmission, clutch cable, firewall quadrant, some kind of shifter, knob, and some other things. thats with the cobra spec tranny from D&D performance. add all that stuff and tell me what number you come up with

I know what you're saying but the tranny, crossmember and driveshaft are included with their kit. As well as a speedometer cable, and shifter...

As far as the other things you mentioned. When going auto to manual you'll have to purchase them anyway... but for the strengthreliability you get, as well as "cool is a six speed" factor it's worth the price. Plus you get that fuel friendly .50 overdrive vs. the .67-.70 you get with the others... You can either appreciate the mileage or you can add more gear...

stanger00 · 02-23-2006, 01:53 PM

i said this

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Originally Posted by stanger00

i priced out everything i would need for a swap. with a rebuilt t56 the total setup was 3700. expensive. but good luck

you said this.....

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Originally Posted by caballo

For that much you can get a brand new Viper Spec T56 tranny kit from D and D Performance...

so i broke down the cost a little so you can see whats involved.....

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Originally Posted by stanger00

there are a lot of other items that will nickel and dime you. flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, pedal's, wiring harness, crossmember, driveshaft, transmission, clutch cable, firewall quadrant, some kind of shifter, knob, and some other things. thats with the cobra spec tranny from D&D performance. add all that stuff and tell me what number you come up with

then you replied with this....

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Originally Posted by caballo

I know what you're saying but the tranny, crossmember and driveshaft are included with their kit. As well as a speedometer cable, and shifter...

obiviously you dont know what im saying because it still looks like that you dont believe that it will cost 3700-3800 for a cobra T56 swap from auto.

jjtgiants · 02-23-2006, 02:31 PM

I know you've said your mind is already made up, but why not keep the tranny you have and get a tuner and firm up the shift points and replace some stock parts to strengthen it up a bit......Auto's can be quite nice and very consistant if you have it tuned right. I don't know what mods you have, but if the car is a DD why are you so set on doing a swap?? I'm not critcizing you I'm just curious cause it's a whole lot of money to spend....but of course it's your car and money

caballo · 02-23-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stanger00

obiviously you dont know what im saying because it still looks like that you dont believe that it will cost 3700-3800 for a cobra T56 swap from auto.

Totally agree. Never said I didn't. But for that price you can probably get the whole thing done for that with a NEW "Cobra" T56, which is why I did mention that the "Viper T56" kit costs that much with a NEW transmission minus things we already covered.

The only reason why I even mentioned it was because you said that would be your cost for a USED swap...

didn't mean to hijack or upset you...

Good luck with it.

CCM · 02-23-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jjtgiants

I know you've said your mind is already made up, but why not keep the tranny you have and get a tuner and firm up the shift points and replace some stock parts to strengthen it up a bit......Auto's can be quite nice and very consistant if you have it tuned right. I don't know what mods you have, but if the car is a DD why are you so set on doing a swap?? I'm not critcizing you I'm just curious cause it's a whole lot of money to spend....but of course it's your car and money

Because without it my car feels so boring, it's just like driving any other car in many ways. Also, I love driving and I think that manuals are so much more fun to drive and put you in better control of the car. It also gives you something to do while you are driving and just gets you more involved in the driving process. Basically, it's just something I've always wanted ever since I drove one for the first time.

(PS-I've pretty much decided on the T56)

CCM · 02-23-2006, 06:31 PM

Alright, I've made a list of all the little nitty-gritty parts I need, and I've found place to buy all of them except these 3:

1. Stock Clutch/Brake Pedal Assembly
2. Shifter Bezel
3. Manual Wiring Harness

Does anyone know anywhere I can get these parts?

jjtgiants · 02-23-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CCM

Because without it my car feels so boring, it's just like driving any other car in many ways. Also, I love driving and I think that manuals are so much more fun to drive and put you in better control of the car. It also gives you something to do while you are driving and just gets you more involved in the driving process. Basically, it's just something I've always wanted ever since I drove one for the first time.

(PS-I've pretty much decided on the T56)

I understand where your coming from.....to me that's a lot of money to spend especially when it's not going to make you one bit faster or corner better ect.....Good luck I guess

caballo · 02-24-2006, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CCM

Alright, I've made a list of all the little nitty-gritty parts I need, and I've found place to buy all of them except these 3:

1. Stock Clutch/Brake Pedal Assembly
2. Shifter Bezel
3. Manual Wiring Harness

Does anyone know anywhere I can get these parts?

www.mpsautosalvage.com

GT4DUMMIES · 02-24-2006, 12:29 PM

Screw the trans - GET A BLOWER
A much better investment

02-22-2006, 06:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
CCM Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,382	Which Transmission? Alright, I'm going to be swapping out my Auto for a manual tranny in the next few months, which tranny do you think I should get? I'm struggling between these 3: (All would be brand new/rebuilt) 1. Tremec T-56 (stock '03 tranny) 2. Tremec TKO-500 3. Tremec 3650 (stock GT tranny) It's mostly between the latter two now, because of cost and install snags with the 6-speed. I'd also love to hear from anyone who has done an auto to manual swap, just advice, your experience, satisfaction, etc. Thanks! __________________ 2001 MINERAL GRAY GT (5-speed) H&R SuperSports MM 4-Bolt CC Plates Stoptech SS Brake Lines '03 Cobra Brakes Spec Billet Steel Flywheel Spec Stage 2 Clutch FRPP 4.10s X-Calibrator 2 Full Length Subframes Corbeau Legacy Racing Seats 18" Gunmetal Saleen Rims w/ Nitto 555s

02-22-2006, 06:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
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02-22-2006, 06:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
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02-22-2006, 06:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mug11 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lubbock/Houston, TX Posts: 909	Wait till the auto blows up.. not worth the money. __________________

02-22-2006, 07:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
Madi98GT Stage 3 P&P HEAD Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 53	Not sure how much power you are putting down, but the 3650 can take a good amount of abuse. From a cost standpoint, that's the best option. __________________ -Jason '98 GT 5-speed Boss 330 Racing www.modularmisfits.com

02-22-2006, 07:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
customstang Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 263	My friend did a swap he said the hardest part was probably getting the new clutch pedal installed in the floor and getting the stuff cut out right. He bought a junk tranny for like $50 and rebuilt it, ended up costing him under a grand

02-22-2006, 07:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,402	since you wont be drag racing much i would do the T3650 i love my tranny it takes a ton of abuse from me with many many street races,drag strip runs with drag radials and a 125shot of nitrous. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

02-23-2006, 02:31 PM	#17 (permalink)
jjtgiants jjtgiants Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dublin, CA Posts: 3,762	I know you've said your mind is already made up, but why not keep the tranny you have and get a tuner and firm up the shift points and replace some stock parts to strengthen it up a bit......Auto's can be quite nice and very consistant if you have it tuned right. I don't know what mods you have, but if the car is a DD why are you so set on doing a swap?? I'm not critcizing you I'm just curious cause it's a whole lot of money to spend....but of course it's your car and money

02-23-2006, 06:31 PM	#20 (permalink)
CCM Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,382	Alright, I've made a list of all the little nitty-gritty parts I need, and I've found place to buy all of them except these 3: 1. Stock Clutch/Brake Pedal Assembly 2. Shifter Bezel 3. Manual Wiring Harness Does anyone know anywhere I can get these parts? __________________ 2001 MINERAL GRAY GT (5-speed) H&R SuperSports MM 4-Bolt CC Plates Stoptech SS Brake Lines '03 Cobra Brakes Spec Billet Steel Flywheel Spec Stage 2 Clutch FRPP 4.10s X-Calibrator 2 Full Length Subframes Corbeau Legacy Racing Seats 18" Gunmetal Saleen Rims w/ Nitto 555s

02-24-2006, 12:29 PM	#23 (permalink)
GT4DUMMIES Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 107	comon sense Screw the trans - GET A BLOWER A much better investment