Automatic Racing

Slither · 08-25-2005, 05:40 AM

I was wondering what the best method is if you decide to race someone if you have an automatic? Do you just leave it in drive and punch it or do you actually shift it into first and change the gears yourself? Do you leave your traction control on or do you take it off? Overdrive on or overdrive off?

*madmatt* · 08-25-2005, 06:37 AM

Ive heard to leave it in drive if its stockish. Traction control off for sure, and Id say o/d off because itll make it shift earlier. ( Maybe the last parts wrong, Im auto-ignorant.)

FritoBandito · 08-25-2005, 07:28 AM

Here's how I was taught to race an automatic:

OD off, trac off, leave in drive

Off the line:
Learn the car's stall point. Put 1 foot on the brake and another on the gas as if you were doing a burnout. Slowly give the car gas and put a load on the torq converter. If you spin the tires, back off a little. The car will feel as if it is ready to lurch forward. The next part takes some practice: When you GO! don't just mash the accelerator, you have to ease into it or depending on the car the motor may want to bog down. Once you find your stall point and know how fast you can put your foot down in order to let the car and motor keep up, you'll be on your way to faster launches. See...it does take skill to race an auto.

From a 30mph roll: I just punch it and go, no gearing.

ModMotorRacer · 08-25-2005, 10:13 PM

It doesn't matter if you have OD on or off. Once you hit a certain miles per hour your car will shift into OD, unless you have gone into the PCM and changed this. Hell your car will shift into OD even if the plug is unplugged from the tranny. Likewise, your car will shift the same as long as your at WOT. Manually shifting gear will slow you down....99% of the time you will hit the rev limiter. Shifting into OD at WOT is NOT good on your tranny. Without looking I think the MPH for it auto shifting is 127mph but I would have to check that.

Adam

JoeMacDJ · 11-09-2005, 06:07 PM

For me personally when starting from a slower speed like 5-15 I manually downshift it into first, thank from 45-60 I get the best jump by putting it into second gear. Inbetween those two speeds you are kind of at a disadvantage unless it gives you a good downshift by just flooring it. As for high speed launches 80+ turn off the od and just mash it, sometimes it will give you a third gear downshift turning off the OD is a must no matter what you are doing. Getting it off the line, as stated earlier, is not as easy as you think. I've had good and bad experiences manually shifting in through the gears you have to time it just right like half a second before you want it to shift. I wouldn't suggest downshifting under full throttle unless you have a shift kit, just get off the gas when you shift down it should be fine. Trust me if you don't turn off the od on the highway you will regret it in a race. If you leave it in drive most fast cars with a stick will already be passing you by the time it downshifts you will lose that initial jump mustangs are known for.

11-09-2005, 06:33 PM

yeah pretty much just gas it and brake it untill you feel that it really wants to go. When the light goes green PETAL TO THE METAL BABY YEAH!

OD off, and TC off.

Personally, my experience with Manu-shifting through 1st and 2nd has been total failure. For some reason if i shift it myself it takes about 4 seconds after i throw the control untill the shift actually takes place, Just let the car do the shifting, it is a lot faster on the shift if it does it itself.

As far as the OD, i guess it really doesent matter. At WOT the RPMs clear redline before shifting. I ran WOT from a stop to 138MPH and i dont remember the OD kicking in at all. Except for maybe as the final gear. Maybe it did, i guess, but none the less, it certainly diddnt hurt anything.

FritoBandito · 11-09-2005, 07:06 PM

This thread is super-old

11-09-2005, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FritoBandito

This thread is super-old

Just like yo mama!

whitethunder46 · 11-10-2005, 09:30 AM

dumb question, how do you turn traction control off?

PureStang · 11-10-2005, 09:35 AM

the center button behind the gear select....under the radio....i think this is ur new center consol

whitethunder46 · 11-10-2005, 09:51 AM

haha, DUH, im so dumb. Thanks tho for the sweet pic

PureStang · 11-10-2005, 09:57 AM

yup no problem.....just glad to help another stanger

08-25-2005, 05:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
Slither Elmo Rocks my Socks Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,157	Automatic Racing I was wondering what the best method is if you decide to race someone if you have an automatic? Do you just leave it in drive and punch it or do you actually shift it into first and change the gears yourself? Do you leave your traction control on or do you take it off? Overdrive on or overdrive off? __________________ SilverMustangs.com Website & Registry

08-25-2005, 06:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,929	Ive heard to leave it in drive if its stockish. Traction control off for sure, and Id say o/d off because itll make it shift earlier. ( Maybe the last parts wrong, Im auto-ignorant.) __________________ RPMPlanets

08-25-2005, 07:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
FritoBandito Married. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: OK Posts: 1,234	Here's how I was taught to race an automatic: OD off, trac off, leave in drive Off the line: Learn the car's stall point. Put 1 foot on the brake and another on the gas as if you were doing a burnout. Slowly give the car gas and put a load on the torq converter. If you spin the tires, back off a little. The car will feel as if it is ready to lurch forward. The next part takes some practice: When you GO! don't just mash the accelerator, you have to ease into it or depending on the car the motor may want to bog down. Once you find your stall point and know how fast you can put your foot down in order to let the car and motor keep up, you'll be on your way to faster launches. See...it does take skill to race an auto. From a 30mph roll: I just punch it and go, no gearing. __________________ 2004 OXFORD GT Parts that matter:K&N,O/R-H,Flow 40's,Xcal2,FRPP 4.10s, Bullitt Susp. kit

08-25-2005, 10:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
ModMotorRacer Modular Misfit Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 329	It doesn't matter if you have OD on or off. Once you hit a certain miles per hour your car will shift into OD, unless you have gone into the PCM and changed this. Hell your car will shift into OD even if the plug is unplugged from the tranny. Likewise, your car will shift the same as long as your at WOT. Manually shifting gear will slow you down....99% of the time you will hit the rev limiter. Shifting into OD at WOT is NOT good on your tranny. Without looking I think the MPH for it auto shifting is 127mph but I would have to check that. Adam __________________ www.modularmisfits.com 98GT NA Auto...12.61@109 NMRA Mod Muscle #10

11-09-2005, 06:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
JoeMacDJ Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Methuen, MA Posts: 20	For me personally when starting from a slower speed like 5-15 I manually downshift it into first, thank from 45-60 I get the best jump by putting it into second gear. Inbetween those two speeds you are kind of at a disadvantage unless it gives you a good downshift by just flooring it. As for high speed launches 80+ turn off the od and just mash it, sometimes it will give you a third gear downshift turning off the OD is a must no matter what you are doing. Getting it off the line, as stated earlier, is not as easy as you think. I've had good and bad experiences manually shifting in through the gears you have to time it just right like half a second before you want it to shift. I wouldn't suggest downshifting under full throttle unless you have a shift kit, just get off the gas when you shift down it should be fine. Trust me if you don't turn off the od on the highway you will regret it in a race. If you leave it in drive most fast cars with a stick will already be passing you by the time it downshifts you will lose that initial jump mustangs are known for. __________________ 99 Chrome yellow mustang gt convertible Modifications K&N FIPK C&L 80mm MAF BBK upper intake plenum Accufab 75mm TB Mac catted prochamber Bassani stainless steel quiet thunder catback. SCT xcalibrator 2 tuned by mustang tuning Transgo Shift Kit Cervinis stalker hood 17x9 Black bullitt wheels with spinners 255's in the front 275's in the rear CDC Lightbar B&M shifter billet replacement pieces Autometer custom gauge cluster Ford Racing Bullitt suspention kit

11-09-2005, 06:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jack The Ripper Posts: n/a	yeah pretty much just gas it and brake it untill you feel that it really wants to go. When the light goes green PETAL TO THE METAL BABY YEAH! OD off, and TC off. Personally, my experience with Manu-shifting through 1st and 2nd has been total failure. For some reason if i shift it myself it takes about 4 seconds after i throw the control untill the shift actually takes place, Just let the car do the shifting, it is a lot faster on the shift if it does it itself. As far as the OD, i guess it really doesent matter. At WOT the RPMs clear redline before shifting. I ran WOT from a stop to 138MPH and i dont remember the OD kicking in at all. Except for maybe as the final gear. Maybe it did, i guess, but none the less, it certainly diddnt hurt anything.

11-09-2005, 07:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
FritoBandito Married. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: OK Posts: 1,234	This thread is super-old __________________ 2004 OXFORD GT Parts that matter:K&N,O/R-H,Flow 40's,Xcal2,FRPP 4.10s, Bullitt Susp. kit

11-10-2005, 09:30 AM	#9 (permalink)
whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	dumb question, how do you turn traction control off? __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272

11-10-2005, 09:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
whitethunder46 Always Detailin' Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 3,556	haha, DUH, im so dumb. Thanks tho for the sweet pic __________________ supernissans.net 2001 Mustang GT - Saleen Replica - SOLD 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3022272

11-10-2005, 09:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
PureStang WE ARE PENNSTATE Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Downingtown/West Chester, PA Posts: 4,952	yup no problem.....just glad to help another stanger __________________ Brandon J My Ride sig by purestang

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