Handgun Info
#31
When in the woods
Mine is in better shape than this one but it's a ww2 k-bar My grandfather gave it to my and told me if I didn't use it I couldn't have it
This is alot like the one I usually carry but it has a black grip
Mine is in better shape than this one but it's a ww2 k-bar My grandfather gave it to my and told me if I didn't use it I couldn't have it
This is alot like the one I usually carry but it has a black grip
#32
my normal carry gun is either my glock g21c or my custom springfield 1911. Those are big pistols and they take a good bit of training and skill to employ smoothly under stress. I'm better trained than all but the most experienced operators and I still would rather carry a my little old S&W 66 because it's easier to operate. Fortunately I don't mind the extra weight enough to not go ahead and pack 1 from column A and 1 from column B.
.380 is insufficient IMO. If you're going to go full caliber, might as well pony up to the bar and go full power too. A .380 is nothing but a 9mm short (and weak). I don't advocate .45's for most people but a 9mm is not too much to handle if you're set on an auto pistol.
Afterhours... a hillbilly with a glock will certainly have a good shot at murdering the pro with a micro-revolver. Simple enough... the Charter guns cease to have a good shot at being even marginally lethal outside of 10-15 yards. A hillbilly with a glock would never let you get that close to the still... He'd have put down the glock for a second and killed your *** with his deer rifle. Don't make retarded ****** comparisons... they're liable to start idiotic back and forth's that we both don't want to read. At least use something classy like "Any gun will do if I will do!"
Anybody that's ever been in a knife fight go ahead and raise your remaining hand. Yeah... thought so. You will definitely get cut regardless of which side of the knife you're on initially. That's how it ends up working when you try to kill someone up close and personal like that.
.380 is insufficient IMO. If you're going to go full caliber, might as well pony up to the bar and go full power too. A .380 is nothing but a 9mm short (and weak). I don't advocate .45's for most people but a 9mm is not too much to handle if you're set on an auto pistol.
Afterhours... a hillbilly with a glock will certainly have a good shot at murdering the pro with a micro-revolver. Simple enough... the Charter guns cease to have a good shot at being even marginally lethal outside of 10-15 yards. A hillbilly with a glock would never let you get that close to the still... He'd have put down the glock for a second and killed your *** with his deer rifle. Don't make retarded ****** comparisons... they're liable to start idiotic back and forth's that we both don't want to read. At least use something classy like "Any gun will do if I will do!"
Anybody that's ever been in a knife fight go ahead and raise your remaining hand. Yeah... thought so. You will definitely get cut regardless of which side of the knife you're on initially. That's how it ends up working when you try to kill someone up close and personal like that.
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#33
Other than that I'm as peaceful a fellow as you would want to meet..
#35
I like Kershaw's SG2 blur and SG2 JYD models. Best knife steel there is. Seriously, unbelievable levels of sharp and it holds an edge.
Ruger's new .327 Federal Mag SP101 is my next get. Plenty of stomp, 6 rds, low weight and made by Ruger which means a tank can do donuts on it and you can pick it up and shoot it.
Ruger's new .327 Federal Mag SP101 is my next get. Plenty of stomp, 6 rds, low weight and made by Ruger which means a tank can do donuts on it and you can pick it up and shoot it.
#36
I just filed paperwork and got fingerprints taken to obtain a firearm permit and handgun etc.
Does anyone on here own handguns? or can anyone recommend some websites for additional information. Just from my own research and personal preference i think im going to try and get a Glock 17 9mm. I dont really have a set budget but i def do not want to spend over 1G. I've also looked at the beretta 9mm's.
I am new to all of this so go easy on me.
Thanks in advance.
Does anyone on here own handguns? or can anyone recommend some websites for additional information. Just from my own research and personal preference i think im going to try and get a Glock 17 9mm. I dont really have a set budget but i def do not want to spend over 1G. I've also looked at the beretta 9mm's.
I am new to all of this so go easy on me.
Thanks in advance.
#38
This is what i'm currently going through......
Firearms Application Process and Requirements
The process begins with making application for a Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and along the way, requires you to submit to a background investigation by both state and federal agencies, supply references, be fingerprinted, and consent to a mental health records check.
There are two types of purchase permits in New Jersey—the Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and the Permit to Purchase a Handgun. If this is your first time buying a firearm, you will need to apply for both but this is accomplished using the same application form (Form STS-33).
Applicants should anticipate the process taking approximately twelve to fourteen weeks. Incomplete or missing information may delay the process, as will the failure of your references to respond in a timely manner.
concealed weapon permit is even tougher and longer
If you are seeking a Permit to Carry a Handgun:
A permit to carry is required for any handgun—concealed or not—and it must be renewed every 2 years. Only one permit needs to be obtained for all such handguns.
In addition to meeting the requirements of the Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and Permit to Purchase a Handgun, you must also:
* supply proof of your familiarity with handguns
* include endorsements from three individuals attesting to your good moral character and ability to exercise self-control
* have a “justifiable need to carry a handgun”
* provide a description and serial number for every handgun you intend to carry
Issuance of this permit is almost completely discretionary and New Jersey has a policy of strictly limiting permits to “persons specifically employed in security work…and to others who can establish an urgent necessity for carrying guns for self-protection.”
nj sucks
Firearms Application Process and Requirements
The process begins with making application for a Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and along the way, requires you to submit to a background investigation by both state and federal agencies, supply references, be fingerprinted, and consent to a mental health records check.
There are two types of purchase permits in New Jersey—the Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and the Permit to Purchase a Handgun. If this is your first time buying a firearm, you will need to apply for both but this is accomplished using the same application form (Form STS-33).
Applicants should anticipate the process taking approximately twelve to fourteen weeks. Incomplete or missing information may delay the process, as will the failure of your references to respond in a timely manner.
concealed weapon permit is even tougher and longer
If you are seeking a Permit to Carry a Handgun:
A permit to carry is required for any handgun—concealed or not—and it must be renewed every 2 years. Only one permit needs to be obtained for all such handguns.
In addition to meeting the requirements of the Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and Permit to Purchase a Handgun, you must also:
* supply proof of your familiarity with handguns
* include endorsements from three individuals attesting to your good moral character and ability to exercise self-control
* have a “justifiable need to carry a handgun”
* provide a description and serial number for every handgun you intend to carry
Issuance of this permit is almost completely discretionary and New Jersey has a policy of strictly limiting permits to “persons specifically employed in security work…and to others who can establish an urgent necessity for carrying guns for self-protection.”
nj sucks
Last edited by Pilks; 02-02-2009 at 09:37 AM. Reason: bold and underline
#43
Just to throw in my 2 cents that the best gun to carry is the one you have with you. All opinionated brand and caliber arguments aside, it should be one that you are comfortable with shooting, one that is both convenient and you are comfortable with carrying and concealing, and one that you know that you will be able to operate under a threatening and distracting situation without hesitation.
-Nick
#45
Get a Springfield XD 45 its the rival to the Glock 21. Between the two I think the XD 45 shoots better and more accurately and it feels better in the hand. Oh and better safety features!
and they all come with a bunch of goodies when you buy em
and they all come with a bunch of goodies when you buy em
Last edited by red281gt; 02-24-2009 at 07:52 PM.
#48
This is what i'm currently going through......
Firearms Application Process and Requirements
The process begins with making application for a Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and along the way, requires you to submit to a background investigation by both state and federal agencies, supply references, be fingerprinted, and consent to a mental health records check.
There are two types of purchase permits in New Jersey—the Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and the Permit to Purchase a Handgun. If this is your first time buying a firearm, you will need to apply for both but this is accomplished using the same application form (Form STS-33).
Applicants should anticipate the process taking approximately twelve to fourteen weeks. Incomplete or missing information may delay the process, as will the failure of your references to respond in a timely manner.
concealed weapon permit is even tougher and longer
If you are seeking a Permit to Carry a Handgun:
A permit to carry is required for any handgun—concealed or not—and it must be renewed every 2 years. Only one permit needs to be obtained for all such handguns.
In addition to meeting the requirements of the Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and Permit to Purchase a Handgun, you must also:
* supply proof of your familiarity with handguns
* include endorsements from three individuals attesting to your good moral character and ability to exercise self-control
* have a “justifiable need to carry a handgun”
* provide a description and serial number for every handgun you intend to carry
Issuance of this permit is almost completely discretionary and New Jersey has a policy of strictly limiting permits to “persons specifically employed in security work…and to others who can establish an urgent necessity for carrying guns for self-protection.”
nj sucks
Firearms Application Process and Requirements
The process begins with making application for a Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and along the way, requires you to submit to a background investigation by both state and federal agencies, supply references, be fingerprinted, and consent to a mental health records check.
There are two types of purchase permits in New Jersey—the Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and the Permit to Purchase a Handgun. If this is your first time buying a firearm, you will need to apply for both but this is accomplished using the same application form (Form STS-33).
Applicants should anticipate the process taking approximately twelve to fourteen weeks. Incomplete or missing information may delay the process, as will the failure of your references to respond in a timely manner.
concealed weapon permit is even tougher and longer
If you are seeking a Permit to Carry a Handgun:
A permit to carry is required for any handgun—concealed or not—and it must be renewed every 2 years. Only one permit needs to be obtained for all such handguns.
In addition to meeting the requirements of the Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and Permit to Purchase a Handgun, you must also:
* supply proof of your familiarity with handguns
* include endorsements from three individuals attesting to your good moral character and ability to exercise self-control
* have a “justifiable need to carry a handgun”
* provide a description and serial number for every handgun you intend to carry
Issuance of this permit is almost completely discretionary and New Jersey has a policy of strictly limiting permits to “persons specifically employed in security work…and to others who can establish an urgent necessity for carrying guns for self-protection.”
nj sucks
Dang, that's a lot of work. I'd hate to see what the rules look like in Cali. Getting a concealed weapons permit in urban areas of Cali are damn near impossible.....it happens, but not often.
#49
outside the 9 bay area counties and the whole of SoCal it's not hard at all. You just have to happen to live in the fuggin boonies which sorta obviates the need for a concealed weapon in the first place since open carry outside of city limits isn't generally illegal (a valid hunting license is helpful too for open carry in the boonies). You can get a set of permits that's good in 30 states from Front Sight (www.frontsight.com) along with good training. That helps a lot of folks evade draconian laws in their state by working with states that have reciprocity agreements in place them.
#50
500 rounds is just broken in LOL. Have about 1500 rounds through my HK USP40, and my 92FS Brigadier would have to be close to 5000 rounds....never jammed, or failed to fire either of those.
But +1 on the XD series. They are great guns.
But +1 on the XD series. They are great guns.
#52
that sounds like a limp-wrister or reloads. I've got 1 of each glock (up to the 36... I stopped after that) and most of them have a few thousand rounds through them. My g17 has around 300K rounds through it and has never failed to feed, fire or eject. My g21c has probably 150K or so through it and has only ever hung up on reloads. I do like the XD's but I think the grip safety is kinda a throwback and unnecessary. Grip safety's are fine on uzi's and 1911's but on a striker fired gun it just seems wasteful of engineering time.
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