stupid friend...

m0nkeh · 04-17-2006, 07:51 PM

Ok guys, my friend is "suppost" to get a 00ish Trans Am and laughs at me cause he will beat me in a race...

what would i need mod wise (N/A) that could allow me to beat a stock trans am in my auto...?

thx.... (he is getting in August)

shad0ws · 04-17-2006, 07:57 PM

Hmm...

5.7-liter OHV V8
320 horsepower @ 5200
345 pound/feet @ 4400
56.5 horsepower/liter

You have your hands full there buddy. It's an LS1 so if it's modded at all you better believe it's breathing well. And if his is a stick then say hello to his taillights. Don't plan on beating him without being blown.

Icefreezen · 04-17-2006, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0nkeh

Ok guys, my friend is "suppost" to get a 00ish Trans Am and laughs at me cause he will beat me in a race...

what would i need mod wise (N/A) that could allow me to beat a stock trans am in my auto...?

thx.... (he is getting in August)

Tell your buddy to race me because you will get embaressed....lol

m0nkeh · 04-17-2006, 08:25 PM

so basically mustangs arnt fast at all unless u got cash for a s/c? when he can pay 10K for a trans am same yr as mine, got mine for 10K and basically eat me alive....thats lame...

wut if i just get a nitrous to ONLY spray when i race him? LOL? will that work?

SonicGT02 · 04-17-2006, 08:30 PM

well if your car is stock under the hood....you have a lot of money to spend if you want to even have a chance to keep up with him. but i would say every bolt on (full exhaust, tb/plenum, cai, pulleys), gears, cams, and a new torque converter would help you beat a manual TA. if its an auto then you could prolly get by without the cams or torque converter.

shad0ws · 04-17-2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SonicGT02

well if your car is stock under the hood....you have a lot of money to spend if you want to even have a chance to keep up with him. but i would say every bolt on (full exhaust, tb/plenum, cai, pulleys), gears, cams, and a new torque converter would help you beat a manual TA. if its an auto then you could prolly get by without the cams or torque converter.

LoL, don't forget about the heads.

Icefreezen · 04-17-2006, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0nkeh

so basically mustangs arnt fast at all unless u got cash for a s/c? when he can pay 10K for a trans am same yr as mine, got mine for 10K and basically eat me alive....thats lame...

wut if i just get a nitrous to ONLY spray when i race him? LOL? will that work?

Gears and a 100 shot will take him.

spike_africa · 04-17-2006, 08:53 PM

i beat one with nothing more then cai,nitto drags and off road h-pipe.

its all in the driver and i was the one with the advantage. his was a 01 auto bird with lid thats it. beat it by 2 cars to 80mph when i shut down. He was right with me though.

04-17-2006, 09:23 PM

my buddy has a GT with gears, throttle body and 100 shot and it smokes trans am all the time, it even takes out 03/04 cobras.

csledd · 04-17-2006, 09:26 PM

dont get so frustrated when racing LS1's.. just remember it's a freaking 5.7 liter engine, you only have a 4.6 liter engine. My buddy has a 98 TA LS1 and they are no joke.

shad0ws · 04-17-2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SpinMedia

my buddy has a GT with gears, throttle body and 100 shot and it smokes trans am all the time, it even takes out 03/04 cobras.

m0nkeh wants to stay N/A and nitrous would not exactly be N/A.

csledd · 04-17-2006, 09:55 PM

btw.. when my buddy goes over 90mph it feels like his car is about to fall apart and kill us all in the process. That's why your stang is better right there lol.

but I beat him from a roll before I put my cams in

m0nkeh · 04-18-2006, 06:24 AM

lol...well i do got like wut rest of april and may june july and august to beef up my car and hopfully beat him...? lol

i want to eventually just drop a new engine in my car BUT for one, idk what to get and where and such. (( would this work, or be too big? http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=4050 )

If i did... SLP1 + Xpipe + Gears/Tune + Tb/PLenum + U/D Pullies + Torque convertor + CAMS

would i be even CLOSE to him or just get all that and run like a 75shot if i got juice......lol (one thing about it, what else do u need to run nitrous "safer")

csledd · 04-18-2006, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0nkeh

lol...well i do got like wut rest of april and may june july and august to beef up my car and hopfully beat him...? lol

i want to eventually just drop a new engine in my car BUT for one, idk what to get and where and such. (( would this work, or be too big? http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=4050 )

If i did... SLP1 + Xpipe + Gears/Tune + Tb/PLenum + U/D Pullies + Torque convertor + CAMS

would i be even CLOSE to him or just get all that and run like a 75shot if i got juice......lol (one thing about it, what else do u need to run nitrous "safer")

it depends about how much he mods his car... like I said before no matter what he's got a jump on you because its a 5.7 liter engine, when he mods he's gonna gain more power per mod than you do. so if you do all that stuff you could most likely take him, but if he goes and does a few mods of his own it will make it all more difficult

m0nkeh · 04-18-2006, 06:33 AM

well he wants to race like as soon as he gets the car, so itll be stock.

spike_africa · 04-18-2006, 07:14 AM

soo much easier to just add a 75 shot and do your exhuast and gears, but if you must stay n/a i guess thats a good idea.

Icefreezen · 04-18-2006, 07:16 AM

Gears, exhaust, and a 3000 stall torque converter and some drag radials. This should be enough

m0nkeh · 04-18-2006, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0nkeh

lol...well i do got like wut rest of april and may june july and august to beef up my car and hopfully beat him...? lol

i want to eventually just drop a new engine in my car BUT for one, idk what to get and where and such. (( would this work, or be too big? http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=4050 )

If i did... SLP1 + Xpipe + Gears/Tune + Tb/PLenum + U/D Pullies + Torque convertor + CAMS

would i be even CLOSE to him or just get all that and run like a 75shot if i got juice......lol (one thing about it, what else do u need to run nitrous "safer")

i said that..so i mean i just might get the juice just to beat him and i guess bring up my times...lol

*madmatt* · 04-18-2006, 08:12 AM

Take my advice, and seriously, take it. If you REALLY MUST beat your friend, and wont be happy unless you do, DO NOT TRY TO DO IT N/A. He will make you even more pissed off everytime he beats you for the money you spent that you THOUGHT would beat him. Go buy 4.10's, a nitrous kit, and a tune, and be done. Dont do this BS heads/cams/exhaust thing thinking that it will handle it. If he cant drive, sure, it will do the trick, but all he has to do, is get a cam, exhaust, and god forbid, a bottle of spray, and that 5k that you spend making your car fast n/a will be USELESS. Either buy a bottle, or buy a blower, well, or sell your car and get a t/a because the LS1 is a bad bitch, and you have to find happiness in your slow mustang because its a mustang, not because you beat an ls1. 8 out of 10 times, you will lose to them. Unless you have mad skillz at teh driving like spike

Slither · 04-18-2006, 08:36 AM

Why are you so worried about trying to do all this stuff to your car just to beat your friend? Do what you want instead of doing anything possible to be his T/A. Personally our cars look much better than theirs do anyway so atleast you have that on him. Mod your car but don't do it just to beat him.

Icefreezen · 04-18-2006, 08:40 AM

Hell like I said bring him to the track and i'll race him......

FritoBandito · 04-18-2006, 09:10 AM

Think of this, Ls1 = Michael Jordan
4.6l = Scottie Pippen

Pippen was a bitch compared to jordan but was better than 90% of the players when he was in his prime. Even tho the 99-04 mustangs are not the fastest, they still hold their own.

m0nkeh · 04-18-2006, 10:14 AM

ok...fine...

lets say i did get nitrous, what would i need to be able to run the nitrous as safe as possible (tho nitrous isnt safe...)

and i do wanna atlaest do gears and exhaust for my car...

((and i kno he wont do nitrous on his car so thats not a worry))

04-17-2006, 07:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
m0nkeh Stang Love Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Deltona FL Posts: 1,089	stupid friend... Ok guys, my friend is "suppost" to get a 00ish Trans Am and laughs at me cause he will beat me in a race... what would i need mod wise (N/A) that could allow me to beat a stock trans am in my auto...? thx.... (he is getting in August) __________________ - 01 Gt Vert Black on Black - mods - SLP LM1 Exhaust

04-17-2006, 07:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
shad0ws vDUB Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,468	Hmm... 5.7-liter OHV V8 320 horsepower @ 5200 345 pound/feet @ 4400 56.5 horsepower/liter You have your hands full there buddy. It's an LS1 so if it's modded at all you better believe it's breathing well. And if his is a stick then say hello to his taillights. Don't plan on beating him without being blown. __________________

04-17-2006, 08:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
m0nkeh Stang Love Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Deltona FL Posts: 1,089	so basically mustangs arnt fast at all unless u got cash for a s/c? when he can pay 10K for a trans am same yr as mine, got mine for 10K and basically eat me alive....thats lame... wut if i just get a nitrous to ONLY spray when i race him? LOL? will that work? __________________ - 01 Gt Vert Black on Black - mods - SLP LM1 Exhaust

04-17-2006, 08:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
SonicGT02 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massillon, OH Posts: 23	well if your car is stock under the hood....you have a lot of money to spend if you want to even have a chance to keep up with him. but i would say every bolt on (full exhaust, tb/plenum, cai, pulleys), gears, cams, and a new torque converter would help you beat a manual TA. if its an auto then you could prolly get by without the cams or torque converter. __________________ '02 Sonic Blue GT -SLP LM's and O/R X-pipe -Steeda CAI; Underdrive's; Adj. Uppers; Sport Springs -Accufab 75mm TB/Plenum -FRPP 4.10's -Eaton Posi -Strange 31 Spline Axles; 10 way Shocks/Struts -Maximum Motorsports Lowers; Full-Length SFC's; caster camber plates

04-17-2006, 08:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,209	i beat one with nothing more then cai,nitto drags and off road h-pipe. its all in the driver and i was the one with the advantage. his was a 01 auto bird with lid thats it. beat it by 2 cars to 80mph when i shut down. He was right with me though. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

04-17-2006, 09:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
SpinMedia Posts: n/a	my buddy has a GT with gears, throttle body and 100 shot and it smokes trans am all the time, it even takes out 03/04 cobras.

04-17-2006, 09:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
csledd DSG!!! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 3,074	dont get so frustrated when racing LS1's.. just remember it's a freaking 5.7 liter engine, you only have a 4.6 liter engine. My buddy has a 98 TA LS1 and they are no joke. __________________ CAP DSG Registry 2003 Mustang GT - daily driven check out my cardomain for more info 296 rwhp / 310 rwtq Money spent @ AM: $4623.20 1984 Mustang Hatch - low budget project

04-17-2006, 09:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
csledd DSG!!! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Paducah, KY Posts: 3,074	btw.. when my buddy goes over 90mph it feels like his car is about to fall apart and kill us all in the process. That's why your stang is better right there lol. but I beat him from a roll before I put my cams in __________________ CAP DSG Registry 2003 Mustang GT - daily driven check out my cardomain for more info 296 rwhp / 310 rwtq Money spent @ AM: $4623.20 1984 Mustang Hatch - low budget project

04-18-2006, 06:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
m0nkeh Stang Love Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Deltona FL Posts: 1,089	lol...well i do got like wut rest of april and may june july and august to beef up my car and hopfully beat him...? lol i want to eventually just drop a new engine in my car BUT for one, idk what to get and where and such. (( would this work, or be too big? http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=4050 ) If i did... SLP1 + Xpipe + Gears/Tune + Tb/PLenum + U/D Pullies + Torque convertor + CAMS would i be even CLOSE to him or just get all that and run like a 75shot if i got juice......lol (one thing about it, what else do u need to run nitrous "safer") __________________ - 01 Gt Vert Black on Black - mods - SLP LM1 Exhaust

04-18-2006, 06:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
m0nkeh Stang Love Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Deltona FL Posts: 1,089	well he wants to race like as soon as he gets the car, so itll be stock. __________________ - 01 Gt Vert Black on Black - mods - SLP LM1 Exhaust

04-18-2006, 07:14 AM	#16 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 7,209	soo much easier to just add a 75 shot and do your exhuast and gears, but if you must stay n/a i guess thats a good idea. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

04-18-2006, 07:16 AM	#17 (permalink)
Icefreezen Mustang Superman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Your mom's bed Posts: 3,908	Gears, exhaust, and a 3000 stall torque converter and some drag radials. This should be enough __________________

04-18-2006, 08:12 AM	#19 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,922	Take my advice, and seriously, take it. If you REALLY MUST beat your friend, and wont be happy unless you do, DO NOT TRY TO DO IT N/A. He will make you even more pissed off everytime he beats you for the money you spent that you THOUGHT would beat him. Go buy 4.10's, a nitrous kit, and a tune, and be done. Dont do this BS heads/cams/exhaust thing thinking that it will handle it. If he cant drive, sure, it will do the trick, but all he has to do, is get a cam, exhaust, and god forbid, a bottle of spray, and that 5k that you spend making your car fast n/a will be USELESS. Either buy a bottle, or buy a blower, well, or sell your car and get a t/a because the LS1 is a bad bitch, and you have to find happiness in your slow mustang because its a mustang, not because you beat an ls1. 8 out of 10 times, you will lose to them. Unless you have mad skillz at teh driving like spike __________________ RPMPlanets

04-18-2006, 08:36 AM	#20 (permalink)
Slither Elmo Rocks my Socks Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,151	Why are you so worried about trying to do all this stuff to your car just to beat your friend? Do what you want instead of doing anything possible to be his T/A. Personally our cars look much better than theirs do anyway so atleast you have that on him. Mod your car but don't do it just to beat him. __________________ SilverMustangs.com Website & Registry

04-18-2006, 08:40 AM	#21 (permalink)
Icefreezen Mustang Superman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Your mom's bed Posts: 3,908	Hell like I said bring him to the track and i'll race him...... __________________

04-18-2006, 09:10 AM	#22 (permalink)
FritoBandito Married. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: OK Posts: 1,234	Think of this, Ls1 = Michael Jordan 4.6l = Scottie Pippen Pippen was a bitch compared to jordan but was better than 90% of the players when he was in his prime. Even tho the 99-04 mustangs are not the fastest, they still hold their own. __________________ 2004 OXFORD GT Parts that matter:K&N,O/R-H,Flow 40's,Xcal2,FRPP 4.10s, Bullitt Susp. kit

04-18-2006, 10:14 AM	#23 (permalink)
m0nkeh Stang Love Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Deltona FL Posts: 1,089	ok...fine... lets say i did get nitrous, what would i need to be able to run the nitrous as safe as possible (tho nitrous isnt safe...) and i do wanna atlaest do gears and exhaust for my car... ((and i kno he wont do nitrous on his car so thats not a worry)) __________________ - 01 Gt Vert Black on Black - mods - SLP LM1 Exhaust