Scam??????

Grimmz · 03-27-2006, 08:04 PM

friend of mine came across this site claimin to have lots of repo cars... its out in Carson city, NV...he thinks they're legit, but when you read into the actual sale they want money before they ship you the car...

I feel like it's a scam, cuz this is just too good to be true...

http://www.eu-tradecars.com/index.htm

neone ever heard of this place, or is neone near the area that can actually check it out...

dannyb785 · 03-27-2006, 08:07 PM

the only way to know for sure is to take a trip there. If these people are asking for money, via money order or some other non-trackable means, then don't do it. I'd check it out if I had time to drive there

03-27-2006, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimmz

friend of mine came across this site claimin to have lots of repo cars... its out in Carson city, NV...he thinks they're legit, but when you read into the actual sale they want money before they ship you the car...

I feel like it's a scam, cuz this is just too good to be true...

http://www.eu-tradecars.com/index.htm

neone ever heard of this place, or is neone near the area that can actually check it out...

I dont believe it. 17k for a viper? Yah right. i dont see how it could be tru, yer buddy needs to do some research on this place. check BBB and stuff like that

Grimmz · 03-27-2006, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper

I dont believe it. 17k for a viper? Yah right. i dont see how it could be tru, yer buddy needs to do some research on this place. check BBB and stuff like that

he's got a family friend in Reno thats guna check it out sometime this week...

and Danny they use Paypal... this is the e-mail my friend forwarded to me from the guy...

:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::

Hello,

This is our location and you can come to test the car, also you can find a map with our location on our web site.

4732 Us Highway 50

Carson City , NV 89701

I'm out of town to buy another car and my mobile was stolen, the best way is to email me any questions or you can wait 10 days until I will come back in town, but I can't guarantee that the car will be available when I will come back.The best way to purchase this car is to reserve this car via PayPal. You will have to pay $5,000 deposit via PayPal and once we will receive and secure the payment we can arrange a meeting or I will ship the car to your location once the down payment is cleared. You will have to pay the remainder amount after you will receive and test the car.

me a phone number so that I can speak with you about Eu-trade

cars.

Thanks

My friend wrote: Why so Cheap?

Thousands of cars become government & bank property every day through various seizure and surplus laws. The constant exchange of veh! icles and the enormous expense to store them, means amazing deals and guaranteed rock bottom prices for you! As Much as 50% - 60% OFF! We are a non-governmental organization we don't pay any taxes because we donate all the money. That is the reason that we have cars sow cheap.

If you have other questions please let me know.

Thanks,

Song

My Friend wrote:

The number on your website doesn't work, can you please send

me a phone number so that I can speak with you about Eu-trade

cars.

Thanks

dannyb785 · 03-27-2006, 08:20 PM

ohhh snap. that "number doesnt work" really is a hint. I actually just called the place and it said the service for the number has been suspended. hmmm, I emailed the place and hopefully I'll get a reply soon. I understand the idea of the govt repo-ing cars but for prices as low as that? IF they could get more out of it, then why not? When it comes to most things in life..if it seems too good ot be true, it usually is.

Grimmz · 03-27-2006, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyb785

ohhh snap. that "number doesnt work" really is a hint. I actually just called the place and it said the service for the number has been suspended. hmmm, I emailed the place and hopefully I'll get a reply soon. I understand the idea of the govt repo-ing cars but for prices as low as that? IF they could get more out of it, then why not? When it comes to most things in life..if it seems too good ot be true, it usually is.

thats EXACTLY what I told my friend, the only sorta rep. this place has is they may let you actually test drive them... but i was like broken cell phone...if this is a business you don't do business with a cell as your main number...

dsdaddy · 03-27-2006, 08:33 PM

Don't tell my pops I actually listened to him growing up, but like he always said "If it sounds too good to be true...", I'm sure the rest of you have heard this somewhere before. Feel free to fill in the rest.

Grimmz · 03-27-2006, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsdaddy

Don't tell my pops I actually listened to him growing up, but like he always said "If it sounds too good to be true...", I'm sure the rest of you have heard this somewhere before. Feel free to fill in the rest.

yeah but i stopped listenin to that advice the day i swiped my V card...LoL GIGGITY OH!

dsdaddy · 03-27-2006, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimmz

yeah but i stopped listenin to that advice the day i swiped my V card...LoL GIGGITY OH!

True! But every now and then I get the terrible feeling that my 'rents might have been right about some stuff...that gives me chills.

Grimmz · 03-27-2006, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsdaddy

True! But every now and then I get the terrible feeling that my 'rents might have been right about some stuff...that gives me chills.

LoL, yeah, mothers the worst though, the I told you so is just terrible... but you gotta admit the prices and types of cars in this deal is just TOOO inticing not to look deeper, whats the worst you could loose is some time, as long as your not an idiot and send money to people for no reason...

The thing about repos is this, if the car is repoed by a bank, that means they have a car they need to sell to make up the original loan, now depending on how much princple and interest is left on the loan will determine the price, so it makes you wonder the bank would never auction of a car for THAT much lower unless they were breaking even, and only in a VERY deperate case would they actually loose money... yes storage costs are high, but when the car is orignally something like 80 grand u can make up those costs fairely easy...

dsdaddy · 03-27-2006, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimmz

LoL, yeah, mothers the worst though, the I told you so is just terrible... but you gotta admit the prices and types of cars in this deal is just TOOO inticing not to look deeper, whats the worst you could loose is some time, as long as your not an idiot and send money to people for no reason...

I just don't know...$17,900 for a 2002 Viper with less than 13K on the odometer? There goes my dad's voice again....

Good luck with it though!!!

Grimmz · 03-27-2006, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsdaddy

I just don't know...$17,900 for a 2002 Viper with less than 13K on the odometer? There goes my dad's voice again....

Good luck with it though!!!

lol trust me i'm not holding my breath... i know it's all fake and a scam but still, that lil bit of me wants to make sure it is...

Also think about what REALLY happens to those cars that DO get repoded... in highschool a friend got his car repoded for 24 grand... (merecedez) and that was a good deal...so who knows...

03-27-2006, 09:06 PM

Yah. I call

ANyways, about repos and stuff, from what i understand banks who repo cars cause the owner stopped paying are only allowed to sell it in order to recover thier costs plus the interest that would have been earned on the loan right?
doesent that prevent banks from having you pay yer car all the way down to a couple grand then repo'ing it after a single late payment and dickin ya over to score extra cash..?

Kinda the same way with foreclosures on houses. 170,000 for a 250,000+ house, the only reason they would sell for 170 is caus that is what was left on the loan. Im sure the bank would be happy to sell it for what it is worth if they were allowed to.

who cares, its a scam. as far as the number being disco'ed for non-payment, i see that happening here at my company with customers who dont pay thier bill. normally they get a full month or two behind before we would even consider disconnecting or suspending thier service, and smaller companys are our market, we dont do residential.

dsdaddy · 03-27-2006, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimmz

lol trust me i'm not holding my breath... i know it's all fake and a scam but still, that lil bit of me wants to make sure it is...

Also think about what REALLY happens to those cars that DO get repoded... in highschool a friend got his car repoded for 24 grand... (merecedez) and that was a good deal...so who knows...

Cool! As long as if you find out it's legit you let the rest of us know ASAP!!!!

(still don't think it is, but better safe than sorry :shifty

03-27-2006, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsdaddy

Cool! As long as if you find out it's legit you let the rest of us know ASAP!!!!

(still don't think it is, but better safe than sorry :shifty

Were all gonna feel like idiots when he puts up a thread in a week showing off his 02 viper. ROFL

dsdaddy · 03-27-2006, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper

Were all gonna feel like idiots when he puts up a thread in a week showing off his 02 viper. ROFL

I'll be a post-deleting fool if that happens!!!

Grimmz · 03-27-2006, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper

Were all gonna feel like idiots when he puts up a thread in a week showing off his 02 viper. ROFL

My boy has dibs on the Viper, my dad and i got dibs on the Carrera... LoL... and I want one of those STi's just cuz I need a winter beater...LMAO

dannyb785 · 03-27-2006, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper

Were all gonna feel like idiots when he puts up a thread in a week showing off his 02 viper. ROFL

LOL then I'd buy the g35 for 12 grand

03-27-2006, 10:14 PM

the first few digits of the vin# match the car they should be
1B3ER69E92V100926 is an actual dodge viper

ha ha check this out

I did a google search for the address provided by that site and this is what i got...
Carson Valley Motor Sports
Motorcycle Repair & Service
4751 Us Highway 50 East
Carson City, NV, 89701
775-883-5454

funny thing is that the phone #'s match...

this is weird... i really wouldnt trust em w/ out takin a trip...

Grimmz · 03-27-2006, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GREG@94GT

the first few digits of the vin# match the car they should be
1B3ER69E92V100926 is an actual dodge viper

ha ha check this out

I did a google search for the address provided by that site and this is what i got...
Carson Valley Motor Sports
Motorcycle Repair & Service
4751 Us Highway 50 East
Carson City, NV, 89701
775-883-5454

funny thing is that the phone #'s match...

this is weird... i really wouldnt trust em w/ out takin a trip...

Trust me at this point no one does... but hey it would be nice huh? with Foncarelli's 45 mil we could all be rich assholes... LoL

Grimmz · 04-05-2006, 09:04 AM

::::::Update::::::

So I talked to my buddy and he said their friend out in Nevada checked out the place and it is a complete scam. The guy that owned the shop said he'd worked there for 20 years and had NEVER heard of EU motors.

Well it just so happens that the friend is an IT expert and got all the information from the server where the site is hosted and found out it's being hosted in PA, but with a UK address. And the person who created the site is some guy in PA.

Further more all the pictures are from another website something like exotic cars.com...

All that being said my friend found the guyz number and called him up, (ps he also traced the e-mail address to the same guy...for obvious reasons same server...) but yeah so he called the guy up and told told the guy straight up he was full of **** and he'd been caught, the guy took a long pause then said some weak excuse like his credit card had been stolen and he'd help with any investigation... in other words he knew he'd been caught, right now they're workin on gettin all the information organized and sent to either the FBI or local law enforcement to see if they can put any fraud charges on the guy...

04-05-2006, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimmz

03-27-2006, 08:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Grimmz Jack Touched Me...I Cried Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL/ Gaithersburg, MD Posts: 3,751	Scam?????? friend of mine came across this site claimin to have lots of repo cars... its out in Carson city, NV...he thinks they're legit, but when you read into the actual sale they want money before they ship you the car... I feel like it's a scam, cuz this is just too good to be true... http://www.eu-tradecars.com/index.htm neone ever heard of this place, or is neone near the area that can actually check it out... __________________ 2003 Manual V6 "ETHEL" My CarDomain::Updated 12/31/05:: Engine Start-Up, Rev,and Walk Around , Drive By 3.8 Mustang Forum Exhaust's DSG Registry #0032 Props to Slither for the Sig!!!

03-27-2006, 08:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
dsdaddy Grayscale background FTW! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,491	Don't tell my pops I actually listened to him growing up, but like he always said "If it sounds too good to be true...", I'm sure the rest of you have heard this somewhere before. Feel free to fill in the rest. __________________ 247 RWHP 289 RWTQ Props to Slither for the sig!!!

04-05-2006, 09:04 AM	#21 (permalink)
Grimmz Jack Touched Me...I Cried Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL/ Gaithersburg, MD Posts: 3,751	::::::Update:::::: So I talked to my buddy and he said their friend out in Nevada checked out the place and it is a complete scam. The guy that owned the shop said he'd worked there for 20 years and had NEVER heard of EU motors. Well it just so happens that the friend is an IT expert and got all the information from the server where the site is hosted and found out it's being hosted in PA, but with a UK address. And the person who created the site is some guy in PA. Further more all the pictures are from another website something like exotic cars.com... All that being said my friend found the guyz number and called him up, (ps he also traced the e-mail address to the same guy...for obvious reasons same server...) but yeah so he called the guy up and told told the guy straight up he was full of ** and he'd been caught, the guy took a long pause then said some weak excuse like his credit card had been stolen and he'd help with any investigation... in other words he knew he'd been caught, right now they're workin on gettin all the information organized and sent to either the FBI or local law enforcement to see if they can put any fraud charges on the guy... __________________ 2003 Manual V6 "ETHEL" My CarDomain::Updated 12/31/05:: Engine Start-Up, Rev,and Walk Around , Drive By 3.8 Mustang Forum Exhaust's DSG Registry #0032 Props to Slither for the Sig!!!**

03-27-2006, 08:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
dannyb785 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,176	the only way to know for sure is to take a trip there. If these people are asking for money, via money order or some other non-trackable means, then don't do it. I'd check it out if I had time to drive there

03-27-2006, 08:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
dannyb785 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,176	ohhh snap. that "number doesnt work" really is a hint. I actually just called the place and it said the service for the number has been suspended. hmmm, I emailed the place and hopefully I'll get a reply soon. I understand the idea of the govt repo-ing cars but for prices as low as that? IF they could get more out of it, then why not? When it comes to most things in life..if it seems too good ot be true, it usually is.

03-27-2006, 09:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jack The Ripper Posts: n/a	Yah. I call ANyways, about repos and stuff, from what i understand banks who repo cars cause the owner stopped paying are only allowed to sell it in order to recover thier costs plus the interest that would have been earned on the loan right? doesent that prevent banks from having you pay yer car all the way down to a couple grand then repo'ing it after a single late payment and dickin ya over to score extra cash..? Kinda the same way with foreclosures on houses. 170,000 for a 250,000+ house, the only reason they would sell for 170 is caus that is what was left on the loan. Im sure the bank would be happy to sell it for what it is worth if they were allowed to. who cares, its a scam. as far as the number being disco'ed for non-payment, i see that happening here at my company with customers who dont pay thier bill. normally they get a full month or two behind before we would even consider disconnecting or suspending thier service, and smaller companys are our market, we dont do residential.

03-27-2006, 10:14 PM	#19 (permalink)
GREG@94GT Posts: n/a	the first few digits of the vin# match the car they should be 1B3ER69E92V100926 is an actual dodge viper ha ha check this out I did a google search for the address provided by that site and this is what i got... Carson Valley Motor Sports Motorcycle Repair & Service 4751 Us Highway 50 East Carson City, NV, 89701 775-883-5454 funny thing is that the phone #'s match... this is weird... i really wouldnt trust em w/ out takin a trip...