Mustang Forums

Go Back   Mustang Forums > Mustang Madness > General Tech Forum

General Tech Forum Use this form for tech related topics that relate to all/most Mustang platforms

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-29-2007, 12:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
red281gt
Senior Member
 
red281gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Alexandria VA
Posts: 545
Send a message via AIM to red281gt
Exclamation UH! Not good.....

Ok so what would make your oil turn colors? few weeks ago it was normal color it would be when getting close to changeing time but now (500miles b4 due for change) i check it and the oil cap has brownish tan gunk on the cap as does the dip stick(not as much brown color). some of it was in the valve covers crossover tube that gos to the intake to. WTF! Would cause this.?
__________________
Matt Brooks
Sig by me!
red281gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2007, 12:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
PureStang
WE ARE PENNSTATE
 
PureStang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Downingtown/West Chester, PA
Posts: 4,863
Send a message via AIM to PureStang
Default

sounds like you have some sort of leak. head gasket maybe. check your coolant levels
__________________
Brandon J
My Ride


sig by purestang
PureStang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2007, 01:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
bassman97
blank
 
bassman97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 1,407
Default

Drain the oil and let it sit for a while in the drain pan. If you had a leak w/ the coolant, it will form a layer on top of the oil.
bassman97 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2007, 01:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
red281gt
Senior Member
 
red281gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Alexandria VA
Posts: 545
Send a message via AIM to red281gt
Default

mm kay. damn i hope not tho
__________________
Matt Brooks
Sig by me!
red281gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2007, 05:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
spike_africa
Administrator
 
spike_africa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Orlando,Florida
Posts: 7,148
Send a message via AIM to spike_africa
Default

does it look like a milkshake kinda? if so head gasket or gaskets have blown. Also is it blowing some lite or heavy white smoke?
__________________
Dustin

2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed
Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted


WOOO HOOOO!
spike_africa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2007, 06:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
MattJ
Senior Member
 
MattJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Racine, WI
Posts: 10,243
Send a message via AIM to MattJ
Default

a lot of times, if you have a blown head gasket... you will see residue on the cap from coolant.
"milkshake" is also a prime indication...
MattJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2007, 05:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
red281gt
Senior Member
 
red281gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Alexandria VA
Posts: 545
Send a message via AIM to red281gt
Default

. i think it is cuz this morning there was a sweet smell in the exhaust gas. UGH!
__________________
Matt Brooks
Sig by me!
red281gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2007, 05:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
mcmmotorsports
One Bad Mother Trucker
 
mcmmotorsports's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Eastern, NC
Posts: 2,773
Send a message via AIM to mcmmotorsports
Default

What does the oil on your dipstick look like?

**edit*(re-read first post)

Drain the oil as said above and make sure there is no antifreeze in there. If so, headgasket.
__________________
mcmmotorsports is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2007, 09:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
spike_africa
Administrator
 
spike_africa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Orlando,Florida
Posts: 7,148
Send a message via AIM to spike_africa
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by red281gt View Post
. i think it is cuz this morning there was a sweet smell in the exhaust gas. UGH!
smells like surup doesnt it? your got yourself blown head gaskets my freind. Time to get some PI heads.
__________________
Dustin

2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed
Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted


WOOO HOOOO!
spike_africa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2007, 11:37 AM   #10 (permalink)
r3dn3ck
Wowbagger hates me too!
 
r3dn3ck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Magrathea/California
Posts: 6,834
Default

HG is officially blown. No way to get the sweet smell and the slimy choco-shake goo in the oil but to blow the HG. You're burning coolant as well so you're at risk for getting a hydraulic lock on a cylinder and completely smoking the motor via catastrophic self-disassembly.

Pull your plugs and look for the really bad looking one. That'll tell you which gasket it was so you don't have to replace both (but you still should replace both). Since you've got coolant in the cylinders you're also at risk for blowing up your radiator so no startie until fixie.

Good luck. It's often cheaper to find a good used longblock and just swap it in. HG jobs are about 800-1000 or more around here.
r3dn3ck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2007, 02:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
the gillz
OG, double OG, tripleOG
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 263
Default

maybe someone put sugar in your tank and it turned the oil into caramel. happended to me once. bastards
the gillz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2007, 05:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
jeredan2003
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
Posts: 1,788
Default

just buy a used pi motor from someone. you can find them locally around here. I got one with 45,000 miles on it for $500 TB to oil pan. While your in there put on some headers if you dont already have them, and a moroso oil pan.
__________________
2003 DSG GT 5-speed
Hellion 62mm and Flowmaster catback.....

My bonestock 2v engine had been through 2 years of NX 100 shot, 3 years running 8-12lbs vortech s-trim, got into boost daily while racing on the weekends, had 157,000 miles on it, and was running like new
jeredan2003 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2007, 05:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
MattJ
Senior Member
 
MattJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Racine, WI
Posts: 10,243
Send a message via AIM to MattJ
Default

I can tell you that ford will charge you 11.x hours for both head gaskets and thats labor alone. you can expect to pay about 1,100 for that. the gaskets are cheap. like redneck said, its time for heads. could be a warped head from low coolant or a bad gasket. last thing you want to do is do the gasket job and find out you have a warped head or both are warped.
MattJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2007, 04:59 AM   #14 (permalink)
red281gt
Senior Member
 
red281gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Alexandria VA
Posts: 545
Send a message via AIM to red281gt
Default

well monday my mechanic (ex-ford tech) is going to do a compression test and all that business and he is going to check if the heads are cracked or if the block is cracked, so right now im driveing my girlfriends beater around
__________________
Matt Brooks
Sig by me!
red281gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2007, 05:01 AM   #15 (permalink)
red281gt
Senior Member
 
red281gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Alexandria VA
Posts: 545
Send a message via AIM to red281gt
Default

Oh and someone around here is gettin ready to sell a 2000 gt longblock with 30K on it for $1300 not too bad for being around nova where everything costs an arm-n-a-leg
__________________
Matt Brooks
Sig by me!
red281gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2007, 04:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
eventer289
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 245
Default

The chocolate milkshake on the oil cap is normal. It is just moisture that has evaporated onto the cap that is caused by short start and stop drives. I have the same thing with my car. But, I do not (knock on wood) have the same color on my dipstick. Like everyone has said above, you most likely have a blown headgasket. If you continue to drive around with it like that you will shell your motor.
__________________
2002 Mustang GT


Car Domain-- http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2547005
eventer289 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2007, 07:58 PM   #17 (permalink)
red281gt
Senior Member
 
red281gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Alexandria VA
Posts: 545
Send a message via AIM to red281gt
Default

haha that's why im not drivein it now even tho if i did "shell" the engine it would just give me a reason to get a built engine and make this Bit** a weekend warrior.
__________________
Matt Brooks
Sig by me!
red281gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2007, 10:14 PM   #18 (permalink)
WaterDR
Administrator
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,366
Default

I would either build the motor or replace with a used long block. I paid $700 for mine and it had 8,000 miles on it. I also had to buy a few odds and ends like valve covers, so don't forget shit like that.
__________________


Black 2000 GT Vert:
Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump

My Car

My Email
WaterDR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2007, 06:00 AM   #19 (permalink)
red281gt
Senior Member
 
red281gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Alexandria VA
Posts: 545
Send a message via AIM to red281gt
Default

I wish I was rich!
__________________
Matt Brooks
Sig by me!
red281gt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2007, 06:33 PM   #20 (permalink)
eventer289
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 245
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by red281gt View Post
haha that's why im not drivein it now even tho if i did "shell" the engine it would just give me a reason to get a built engine and make this Bit** a weekend warrior.

Have you never heard that before? Just wondering why there are quotes around it.
__________________
2002 Mustang GT


Car Domain-- http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2547005
eventer289 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Ad Management by RedTyger

SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48