Screwed Myself on the X

SpeedNovations · 05-29-2006, 11:51 AM

Ok, so I was installing an o/r Xpipe on my girlfriends 03 Gt and disaster strikes... I rounded off one of the bolts on the passenger side factory H. I can't get it off now for nothing. I tried those special sockets for damaged bolts I got from Sears... no luck. Will an Exhaust garage be able to use a cutting torch or something?? Any advice would be appreciated, Cuz I'm in the doghouse right now with my gal til I get it fixed!!!

05-29-2006, 11:53 AM

If you stripped the nut, just use one of those devices they also sell at sears. It attaches to the nut/bolt and you clamp it down with a wrench and it cracks the bolt/nut in two. Good luck!

05-29-2006, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedNovations

Ok, so I was installing an o/r Xpipe on my girlfriends 03 Gt and disaster strikes... I rounded off one of the bolts on the passenger side factory H. I can't get it off now for nothing. I tried those special sockets for damaged bolts I got from Sears... no luck. Will an Exhaust garage be able to use a cutting torch or something?? Any advice would be appreciated, Cuz I'm in the doghouse right now with my gal til I get it fixed!!!

Did you strip the Bolt or the Nut?

If you stripped the bolt you can take a dremmel and cut a slot for a screwdriver.

SpeedNovations · 05-29-2006, 11:59 AM

I don't have enough work space to get a nut splitter in there. And yes, I did strip the nut

Badfish · 05-29-2006, 12:01 PM

time for the Sawzall

BrentK · 05-29-2006, 12:04 PM

same thing happened to me but i was able to get it off with a bolt locker kit...you are probably going to have to remove the stud or you could try if you have access to a torch put the socket on the nut and torch it until it locks on the nut then try to lossen it

Mug11 · 05-29-2006, 12:10 PM

SledgeHammer....

SpeedNovations · 05-29-2006, 12:11 PM

Damn this sucks ass... no I don't have access to a torch. U think I can cut the nut off with a dremel tool? The fact that I don't have any room to work under there just pisses me off.

apache46 · 05-29-2006, 12:12 PM

Hammer the next smallest size socket on there and try that... you're gonna waste a socket doing it but it works.... the point is to get the socket stuck on there reallly good... I'd even try some adhesive.

not pretty but it's worked many times.

SpeedNovations · 05-29-2006, 12:17 PM

haven't tried that yet... If this doesn't work I really don't know what I'm gonna do. Thanks for all the good advice.

phatpony · 05-29-2006, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedNovations

Damn this sucks ass... no I don't have access to a torch. U think I can cut the nut off with a dremel tool? The fact that I don't have any room to work under there just pisses me off.

You should be able to use a cut off tool in the Dremel. I think you can just cut the stud between the two flanges. If you are removing the stock H pipe you won't need those studs anyway.

GREG@SN95 · 05-29-2006, 12:33 PM

WTF!

NO NO NO... DO THIS-->

Ok... pull off the pipe...

get a propane torch... heat it up real good... get a vise grip and put your back into it...

DO NOT beat it with hammers or start cutting ****...

You may need to go to sears and buy a tap set and re tap the threads

GREG@SN95 · 05-29-2006, 12:41 PM

hmm.. ok... i guess its still o n the car...

yeh... cut the bolt and pull out the pipe...

BUT if ya wanna keep that h pipe and be able to use it again... then

heat up the pipe around the bolt...

see if you can get it out...

if not... get some easy outs...

if that dont work...

drill it out carefully and get a tap set

SpeedNovations · 05-29-2006, 12:44 PM

maybe this is a dumb question, but what are easy-outs?

GREG@SN95 · 05-29-2006, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedNovations

maybe this is a dumb question, but what are easy-outs?

they remove stripped bolts...

go to sears with one of the bolts you already removed and say...

"Howdy feller! Reckon I need me some easy outs so that I can get one of these sons r bitches out r my exhaust pipe"

They should come with simple instructions... but ask the sales guy...

SpeedNovations · 05-29-2006, 01:03 PM

Lol well I might go about asking a bit different, but thanks!!

96gtstang · 05-29-2006, 01:05 PM

yes you will need those studs that are in the stock manifolds..i made the mistake of breaking 2 of them off while trying to get the bolts on the pass. side holding stock h on...boy was that a nightmare..let me tell ya those studs arent cheap either..unless you just buy bolts and put them in but i wanted it done right so i bought the studs and for 4 of them i think i paid like 50 bucks...i tried map gas torch and thats not hot enough because these ford manifolds shed heat so well that you need a cutting torch and you need to be careful not to warp the manifold while using it yet get them cherry red then possibly spin the stud out (if you break the stud while getting the bolt off.)

SpeedNovations · 05-29-2006, 01:09 PM

That's crazy. Now I'm starting to get scared

GREG@SN95 · 05-29-2006, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedNovations

That's crazy. Now I'm starting to get scared

its stripped... you already need new ones...

lol... go to napa tomarow and get new studs... that car cant be driven til its all back together and done right....

welcome to the world of workin on cars... you will always run into some kind of problem...

phatpony · 05-29-2006, 02:08 PM

OK, hold on...I think we are all talking a different location here. Are you asking about the studs on the manifold or the studs on the H-pipe?

If theses are the studs on the H-pipe, where the cat back bolts on, then whack them suckers off with the Dremel. If you are talking the studs on the manifold, where the H-pipe bolts to the manifold, then yeah, you got issues. That would then warrant the use of either a bolt off or heat and beat, or smashing a smaller socket on there. DO NOT CUT THE MANIFOLD STUDS until all other means have been tried first.

:wallbash:

SpeedNovations · 05-29-2006, 02:47 PM

Ok yeah, I'm talking about the 4 nuts you need to remove that connect the factory H to the Manifold. I got 3 of'm off no prob, but I rounded 1 of the passenger side nuts off just enough that's its giving me all kinds of hell.

96gtstang · 05-29-2006, 03:19 PM

are you talking about the one that is way up ther on the pass side clossest to the tire...that one is a pain i dont know how you are doing it but what i ended up doing to get to that one was socket wrench with a real long extension next was a elbow joint then the socket...and the socket o man i took that thing to the bench grinder and had to make it a super short well socket

btw..what did the rest of you guys do to get that bolt off..and does think it is harder to get a o/r x pipe to fit than it is to get a o/r h pipe in ther

phatpony · 05-29-2006, 04:00 PM

OK, yep, now I'm with ya. I used a universal to get the angle right so the socket goes on straight. I didn't have any problem. Maybe it's not rounded off so much that you can still get a socket on there straight. If it is truly "F'd" up, then I would try a "bolt out". It is a neat little socket looking thing that has teeth inside of it that bites into a rounded off nut as you turn it counter clockwise. You can get them at Sears. Good luck!

FritoBandito · 05-30-2006, 06:53 AM

You WILL need a swivel to get to one of the bolts. There is no way to fit the socket with extension and get it on the nut straight without one.

ThePunisher · 05-30-2006, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96gtstang

btw..what did the rest of you guys do to get that bolt off...

I used a pipe cutter and cut a deep well socket down to a midlength and put a swivel in the socket and then 2 extensions together to reach it.

05-29-2006, 11:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
SpeedNovations Eat Sleep Powershift Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 97	Screwed Myself on the X Ok, so I was installing an o/r Xpipe on my girlfriends 03 Gt and disaster strikes... I rounded off one of the bolts on the passenger side factory H. I can't get it off now for nothing. I tried those special sockets for damaged bolts I got from Sears... no luck. Will an Exhaust garage be able to use a cutting torch or something?? Any advice would be appreciated, Cuz I'm in the doghouse right now with my gal til I get it fixed!!! __________________ '04 GT (SOLD!) Saleen Kit, 4.10 gears, Borla Stinger Catback, Upr O/R Xpipe, Steeda Tri Ax, Steeda U/D Pullies, BBk Straight Shot CAI w/75mm TB, AccuFab Plenum, DiabloSport Predator Tune, BF Goodrich D/Rs ...and still not fast enough. 257rwhp 283ft/lbs '08 Roush 428R Roush Performance Exhaust, Upr O/R Xpipe.( 3.90 gears, 2.57 S/C Pulley, SCT Tune, and Steeda CAI coming soon...)

05-29-2006, 11:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
SpeedNovations Eat Sleep Powershift Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 97	I don't have enough work space to get a nut splitter in there. And yes, I did strip the nut __________________ '04 GT (SOLD!) Saleen Kit, 4.10 gears, Borla Stinger Catback, Upr O/R Xpipe, Steeda Tri Ax, Steeda U/D Pullies, BBk Straight Shot CAI w/75mm TB, AccuFab Plenum, DiabloSport Predator Tune, BF Goodrich D/Rs ...and still not fast enough. 257rwhp 283ft/lbs '08 Roush 428R Roush Performance Exhaust, Upr O/R Xpipe.( 3.90 gears, 2.57 S/C Pulley, SCT Tune, and Steeda CAI coming soon...)

05-29-2006, 12:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
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05-29-2006, 12:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
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05-29-2006, 12:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
SpeedNovations Eat Sleep Powershift Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 97	Damn this sucks ass... no I don't have access to a torch. U think I can cut the nut off with a dremel tool? The fact that I don't have any room to work under there just pisses me off. __________________ '04 GT (SOLD!) Saleen Kit, 4.10 gears, Borla Stinger Catback, Upr O/R Xpipe, Steeda Tri Ax, Steeda U/D Pullies, BBk Straight Shot CAI w/75mm TB, AccuFab Plenum, DiabloSport Predator Tune, BF Goodrich D/Rs ...and still not fast enough. 257rwhp 283ft/lbs '08 Roush 428R Roush Performance Exhaust, Upr O/R Xpipe.( 3.90 gears, 2.57 S/C Pulley, SCT Tune, and Steeda CAI coming soon...)

05-29-2006, 11:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
zigzaggthefag321 Posts: n/a	If you stripped the nut, just use one of those devices they also sell at sears. It attaches to the nut/bolt and you clamp it down with a wrench and it cracks the bolt/nut in two. Good luck!

05-29-2006, 12:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
BrentK Win it or wreck it Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: My Heart is in Ohio Posts: 1,287	same thing happened to me but i was able to get it off with a bolt locker kit...you are probably going to have to remove the stud or you could try if you have access to a torch put the socket on the nut and torch it until it locks on the nut then try to lossen it

05-29-2006, 12:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
apache46 Designated Wingman Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ft. Bragg, NC Posts: 80	I'd do this Hammer the next smallest size socket on there and try that... you're gonna waste a socket doing it but it works.... the point is to get the socket stuck on there reallly good... I'd even try some adhesive. not pretty but it's worked many times. __________________ BBK coated LT's,MAC o/r prochamber, Flowmaster catback, UPR CAI, T-56 from 03 cobra, Spec stage 2, Steeda tri-ax shifter, Accufab plenum/75TB Polished. MSD Coils, NGK TR6s, Built 31 spline rear w/ 3.73s, H/R's and KYB's, 18" black bullits With 305 Nitto DR's and 265 555's upfront, FRPP Red Pony Brakes

05-29-2006, 12:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
SpeedNovations Eat Sleep Powershift Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 97	haven't tried that yet... If this doesn't work I really don't know what I'm gonna do. Thanks for all the good advice. __________________ '04 GT (SOLD!) Saleen Kit, 4.10 gears, Borla Stinger Catback, Upr O/R Xpipe, Steeda Tri Ax, Steeda U/D Pullies, BBk Straight Shot CAI w/75mm TB, AccuFab Plenum, DiabloSport Predator Tune, BF Goodrich D/Rs ...and still not fast enough. 257rwhp 283ft/lbs '08 Roush 428R Roush Performance Exhaust, Upr O/R Xpipe.( 3.90 gears, 2.57 S/C Pulley, SCT Tune, and Steeda CAI coming soon...)

05-29-2006, 12:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
GREG@SN95 Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: JACKSON NJ Posts: 4,135	WTF! NO NO NO... DO THIS--> Ok... pull off the pipe... get a propane torch... heat it up real good... get a vise grip and put your back into it... DO NOT beat it with hammers or start cutting ****... You may need to go to sears and buy a tap set and re tap the threads

05-29-2006, 12:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
GREG@SN95 Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: JACKSON NJ Posts: 4,135	hmm.. ok... i guess its still o n the car... yeh... cut the bolt and pull out the pipe... BUT if ya wanna keep that h pipe and be able to use it again... then heat up the pipe around the bolt... see if you can get it out... if not... get some easy outs... if that dont work... drill it out carefully and get a tap set

05-29-2006, 12:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
SpeedNovations Eat Sleep Powershift Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 97	maybe this is a dumb question, but what are easy-outs? __________________ '04 GT (SOLD!) Saleen Kit, 4.10 gears, Borla Stinger Catback, Upr O/R Xpipe, Steeda Tri Ax, Steeda U/D Pullies, BBk Straight Shot CAI w/75mm TB, AccuFab Plenum, DiabloSport Predator Tune, BF Goodrich D/Rs ...and still not fast enough. 257rwhp 283ft/lbs '08 Roush 428R Roush Performance Exhaust, Upr O/R Xpipe.( 3.90 gears, 2.57 S/C Pulley, SCT Tune, and Steeda CAI coming soon...)

05-29-2006, 01:03 PM	#16 (permalink)
SpeedNovations Eat Sleep Powershift Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 97	Lol well I might go about asking a bit different, but thanks!! __________________ '04 GT (SOLD!) Saleen Kit, 4.10 gears, Borla Stinger Catback, Upr O/R Xpipe, Steeda Tri Ax, Steeda U/D Pullies, BBk Straight Shot CAI w/75mm TB, AccuFab Plenum, DiabloSport Predator Tune, BF Goodrich D/Rs ...and still not fast enough. 257rwhp 283ft/lbs '08 Roush 428R Roush Performance Exhaust, Upr O/R Xpipe.( 3.90 gears, 2.57 S/C Pulley, SCT Tune, and Steeda CAI coming soon...)

05-29-2006, 01:05 PM	#17 (permalink)
96gtstang Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: cleveland, ohio Posts: 464	yes you will need those studs that are in the stock manifolds..i made the mistake of breaking 2 of them off while trying to get the bolts on the pass. side holding stock h on...boy was that a nightmare..let me tell ya those studs arent cheap either..unless you just buy bolts and put them in but i wanted it done right so i bought the studs and for 4 of them i think i paid like 50 bucks...i tried map gas torch and thats not hot enough because these ford manifolds shed heat so well that you need a cutting torch and you need to be careful not to warp the manifold while using it yet get them cherry red then possibly spin the stud out (if you break the stud while getting the bolt off.)

05-29-2006, 01:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
SpeedNovations Eat Sleep Powershift Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 97	That's crazy. Now I'm starting to get scared __________________ '04 GT (SOLD!) Saleen Kit, 4.10 gears, Borla Stinger Catback, Upr O/R Xpipe, Steeda Tri Ax, Steeda U/D Pullies, BBk Straight Shot CAI w/75mm TB, AccuFab Plenum, DiabloSport Predator Tune, BF Goodrich D/Rs ...and still not fast enough. 257rwhp 283ft/lbs '08 Roush 428R Roush Performance Exhaust, Upr O/R Xpipe.( 3.90 gears, 2.57 S/C Pulley, SCT Tune, and Steeda CAI coming soon...)

05-29-2006, 02:08 PM	#20 (permalink)
phatpony Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 66	OK, hold on...I think we are all talking a different location here. Are you asking about the studs on the manifold or the studs on the H-pipe? If theses are the studs on the H-pipe, where the cat back bolts on, then whack them suckers off with the Dremel. If you are talking the studs on the manifold, where the H-pipe bolts to the manifold, then yeah, you got issues. That would then warrant the use of either a bolt off or heat and beat, or smashing a smaller socket on there. DO NOT CUT THE MANIFOLD STUDS until all other means have been tried first. :wallbash: __________________ 03 Zinc Yellow Mustang GT- K&N air filter, 75mm Accufab throttle body and upper intake, Steeda TriAx, aluminum driveshaft, SLP catted X-pipe and Loud Mouth cat back, 4.10 gear, Eibach Pro springs, AFS Cobra rims, Mach I grille delete, Diablo Predator tuner

05-29-2006, 02:47 PM	#21 (permalink)
SpeedNovations Eat Sleep Powershift Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 97	Ok yeah, I'm talking about the 4 nuts you need to remove that connect the factory H to the Manifold. I got 3 of'm off no prob, but I rounded 1 of the passenger side nuts off just enough that's its giving me all kinds of hell. __________________ '04 GT (SOLD!) Saleen Kit, 4.10 gears, Borla Stinger Catback, Upr O/R Xpipe, Steeda Tri Ax, Steeda U/D Pullies, BBk Straight Shot CAI w/75mm TB, AccuFab Plenum, DiabloSport Predator Tune, BF Goodrich D/Rs ...and still not fast enough. 257rwhp 283ft/lbs '08 Roush 428R Roush Performance Exhaust, Upr O/R Xpipe.( 3.90 gears, 2.57 S/C Pulley, SCT Tune, and Steeda CAI coming soon...)

05-29-2006, 03:19 PM	#22 (permalink)
96gtstang Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: cleveland, ohio Posts: 464	are you talking about the one that is way up ther on the pass side clossest to the tire...that one is a pain i dont know how you are doing it but what i ended up doing to get to that one was socket wrench with a real long extension next was a elbow joint then the socket...and the socket o man i took that thing to the bench grinder and had to make it a super short well socket btw..what did the rest of you guys do to get that bolt off..and does think it is harder to get a o/r x pipe to fit than it is to get a o/r h pipe in ther

05-29-2006, 04:00 PM	#23 (permalink)
phatpony Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 66	OK, yep, now I'm with ya. I used a universal to get the angle right so the socket goes on straight. I didn't have any problem. Maybe it's not rounded off so much that you can still get a socket on there straight. If it is truly "F'd" up, then I would try a "bolt out". It is a neat little socket looking thing that has teeth inside of it that bites into a rounded off nut as you turn it counter clockwise. You can get them at Sears. Good luck! __________________ 03 Zinc Yellow Mustang GT- K&N air filter, 75mm Accufab throttle body and upper intake, Steeda TriAx, aluminum driveshaft, SLP catted X-pipe and Loud Mouth cat back, 4.10 gear, Eibach Pro springs, AFS Cobra rims, Mach I grille delete, Diablo Predator tuner

05-30-2006, 06:53 AM	#24 (permalink)
FritoBandito Married. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: OK Posts: 1,234	You WILL need a swivel to get to one of the bolts. There is no way to fit the socket with extension and get it on the nut straight without one. __________________ 2004 OXFORD GT Parts that matter:K&N,O/R-H,Flow 40's,Xcal2,FRPP 4.10s, Bullitt Susp. kit