Track times still suck (video)

apache46 · 11-11-2005, 05:26 PM

I went to the track a few months ago and, in the July North Carolina Humidity, bested only a 14.3 @ 99. Since then I've had it dynoed at 264 and 302tq and after that added an Accufab 75mm TB and Plenum. I went to a different track the other weekend in alot better weather but now I'm Texas. The track was litterally bucketed down with water and is so narrow you can't drive around it. I bested only a 14.4. Both Runs have 60ft in the 2.2-2.3 range. Obviously there is a huge drivers error factor, but what suspension set-up will give me the best Daily driven results.

I was thinking...

Eibach Drag launch springs
some kind of adj shock and strut package (suggestions)
Upper and Lower Control Arms (I like the UPR and Mac-anyone running these?)

Also, anyone got some tips for me as far as Launch RPMs, tire pressure. etc

I usually launch around 2K and keep my street tires no lower than 22psi.

ANy help would be great, by looking at some of these other cars, I should be in the 13s easy now with my stock rear and definately after my 4.10s

here's the video link, http://media.putfile.com/144-disaster my buddy filming couldn't see the end of the track so he decided to film the tree which should light up the side that wins, however it's too shaky to tell. The integra ran a 16.58 and sounded like crap the whole way down.

spike_africa · 11-12-2005, 11:48 AM

well your 60 foot right now is what is keeping you in the 14's.

i would do 3k slip it out of the whole this si waht got me many 2.0xx 60' on stock street tires on a stock rear end. and power shift that thing.

apache46 · 11-12-2005, 05:41 PM

will do, thanks for the advice.

buddyabe · 11-13-2005, 05:50 AM

A pair of drag radials with a higher rpm launch will get you into the high thirteens

Blue02GT · 11-15-2005, 06:23 PM

You have the power to run high 12's. Work on getting your 60' times down and experiment with shift points to see what yields the best results. Drag radials are a must at most tracks on test'n'tune nights.

apache46 · 11-15-2005, 09:23 PM

Today my clutch decided to go south. Well, let me be honest and say the clutch pedal and clutch action is gone to hell. I've been reading about problems with the plastic quadrant goin bad because it's junk. Hopefully that's all it is, is a bent quad. While it's in gear, I don't have any slipping sensation so I think the disc is fine. Anyone here have or had a quad problem, if so, can you describe the syptoms. Maybe some engagement issues and unnessary time spent shifting has aided in my slow times. Tranny sounds noise and scratchy as it has been. I've heard this is just the way of the beast for anyone with a 3650. Thanks again for all the help and tips, no track this weekend until the new problem is fixed.

Samsstang · 11-21-2005, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apache46

Today my clutch decided to go south. Well, let me be honest and say the clutch pedal and clutch action is gone to hell. I've been reading about problems with the plastic quadrant goin bad because it's junk. Hopefully that's all it is, is a bent quad. While it's in gear, I don't have any slipping sensation so I think the disc is fine. Anyone here have or had a quad problem, if so, can you describe the syptoms. Maybe some engagement issues and unnessary time spent shifting has aided in my slow times. Tranny sounds noise and scratchy as it has been. I've heard this is just the way of the beast for anyone with a 3650. Thanks again for all the help and tips, no track this weekend until the new problem is fixed.

Ive owned my car since 99! brand new. I JUST replaced the clutch quadrant! never had any problems with it

In the video it sounds like your car is spinning a lot!! I would definetly invest in some Drag radials then you can launch it, like you mean it

stangspeed · 11-23-2005, 05:28 PM

Were you running at Little River"? I would think so if your at Fort Hood...I grew up on that track with my father..Its a tough one to run.

MjCorn23 · 12-18-2005, 09:43 PM

Get you some MT ET Streets and that should do the trick to knock you down a few tenths. When you are running them make sure that you warm them up good though, also it might take a couple of passes to find just the right tire pressure

can'tbanmefool · 12-18-2005, 10:40 PM

with a 99 - you don't have a 3650... the t-45 should be worse (lol sorry) but speedshifting (powershifting) is not good your stuff... its works but its not a good - advise against that

ModMotorRacer · 12-19-2005, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apache46

I went to the track a few months ago and, in the July North Carolina Humidity, bested only a 14.3 @ 99. Since then I've had it dynoed at 264 and 302tq and after that added an Accufab 75mm TB and Plenum. I went to a different track the other weekend in alot better weather but now I'm Texas. The track was litterally bucketed down with water and is so narrow you can't drive around it. I bested only a 14.4. Both Runs have 60ft in the 2.2-2.3 range. Obviously there is a huge drivers error factor, but what suspension set-up will give me the best Daily driven results.

I was thinking...

Eibach Drag launch springs
some kind of adj shock and strut package (suggestions)
Upper and Lower Control Arms (I like the UPR and Mac-anyone running these?)

Also, anyone got some tips for me as far as Launch RPMs, tire pressure. etc

I usually launch around 2K and keep my street tires no lower than 22psi.

ANy help would be great, by looking at some of these other cars, I should be in the 13s easy now with my stock rear and definately after my 4.10s

here's the video link, http://media.putfile.com/144-disaster my buddy filming couldn't see the end of the track so he decided to film the tree which should light up the side that wins, however it's too shaky to tell. The integra ran a 16.58 and sounded like crap the whole way down.

You make more power than i do so you should be running in the 12's depending on what your race weight is. The best advice i can give anyone who wants to drop their et's is to quit racing on street tires. your wasting your time! the 1st 60' is pretty much the whole race in a mod motor car. Go buy another set of wheels and either some DR's or slicks and be done with it. Trying to race on true street tires in a modded stang is like pissing in the wind.

Adam

timstpetefl · 12-19-2005, 07:41 AM

My advise is to get some meat on the back of that car. But just remember, our rear ends dont hold up very well under those conditions, you may want to get some axes and gears along the way also. Ive seen tons of MACHs and GT's snap rear ends just by adding someting sticky on the back.

I run cheap Sumitomo 315's in the back with about 20lb at the track. only mods I have are OR X-pipe, flowmasters, BBK CAI. I went from 9.5's to 9.2's in the 1/8 just from the x-pipe alone. 60' times are 1.9 and 2.0 consistantly.

My launch RPM has been about 2.5k but was bogging at launch a lil, may need to bump it to 3k or so myself.

11-11-2005, 05:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
apache46 Designated Wingman Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ft. Bragg, NC Posts: 80	Track times still suck (video) I went to the track a few months ago and, in the July North Carolina Humidity, bested only a 14.3 @ 99. Since then I've had it dynoed at 264 and 302tq and after that added an Accufab 75mm TB and Plenum. I went to a different track the other weekend in alot better weather but now I'm Texas. The track was litterally bucketed down with water and is so narrow you can't drive around it. I bested only a 14.4. Both Runs have 60ft in the 2.2-2.3 range. Obviously there is a huge drivers error factor, but what suspension set-up will give me the best Daily driven results. I was thinking... Eibach Drag launch springs some kind of adj shock and strut package (suggestions) Upper and Lower Control Arms (I like the UPR and Mac-anyone running these?) Also, anyone got some tips for me as far as Launch RPMs, tire pressure. etc I usually launch around 2K and keep my street tires no lower than 22psi. ANy help would be great, by looking at some of these other cars, I should be in the 13s easy now with my stock rear and definately after my 4.10s here's the video link, http://media.putfile.com/144-disaster my buddy filming couldn't see the end of the track so he decided to film the tree which should light up the side that wins, however it's too shaky to tell. The integra ran a 16.58 and sounded like crap the whole way down. __________________ BBK coated LT's,MAC o/r prochamber, Flowmaster catback, UPR CAI, T-56 from 03 cobra, Spec stage 2, Steeda tri-ax shifter, Accufab plenum/75TB Polished. MSD Coils, NGK TR6s, Built 31 spline rear w/ 3.73s, H/R's and KYB's, 18" black bullits With 305 Nitto DR's and 265 555's upfront, FRPP Red Pony Brakes

11-12-2005, 11:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
spike_africa Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando,Florida Posts: 6,939	well your 60 foot right now is what is keeping you in the 14's. i would do 3k slip it out of the whole this si waht got me many 2.0xx 60' on stock street tires on a stock rear end. and power shift that thing. __________________ Dustin 2002 GT Mustang 5-Speed Drag Radials,Sprayed,Powershifted WOOO HOOOO!

11-12-2005, 05:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
apache46 Designated Wingman Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ft. Bragg, NC Posts: 80	will do, thanks for the advice. __________________ BBK coated LT's,MAC o/r prochamber, Flowmaster catback, UPR CAI, T-56 from 03 cobra, Spec stage 2, Steeda tri-ax shifter, Accufab plenum/75TB Polished. MSD Coils, NGK TR6s, Built 31 spline rear w/ 3.73s, H/R's and KYB's, 18" black bullits With 305 Nitto DR's and 265 555's upfront, FRPP Red Pony Brakes

11-13-2005, 05:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
buddyabe SILVER 01 GT CONVERT AUTO Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: coon rapids mn. u.s.a. Posts: 205	A pair of drag radials with a higher rpm launch will get you into the high thirteens __________________ 3.90 MOTIVE GEARS,ACCUFAB PLENUM AND 75MM T/B,MAC CAI,STEEDA UNDERDRIVE PULLEYS,O/R PROCHAMBER WITH DYNOMAX ULTRA FLOW MUFFLERS,DIABLO CUSTOM TUNED AT HITECH MOTORSPORTS 234.24 HP 271.38 TQ. 14.012 1/4@98.72

11-15-2005, 06:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
Blue02GT Ex Mini Smack King Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868	You have the power to run high 12's. Work on getting your 60' times down and experiment with shift points to see what yields the best results. Drag radials are a must at most tracks on test'n'tune nights. __________________ True Blue 2002 GT Premium 4r70W 1/8 8.205@ 84.780 1/4 12.874@ 107.20 Bolt on's n/a NMRA #7703 Dyno'd at Modular Depot 251 hp. 291 Tq. 4.30's, 3500 Stall converter, Steeda upper & Lowers, Tokico drag struts, M & M frame connectors, P & A valve body, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm TB, Jet Hot Long tubes, Hooker O/R X, Steeda catback,SCT tune,Steeda pullies.

11-15-2005, 09:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
apache46 Designated Wingman Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ft. Bragg, NC Posts: 80	Possibly related Problem Today my clutch decided to go south. Well, let me be honest and say the clutch pedal and clutch action is gone to hell. I've been reading about problems with the plastic quadrant goin bad because it's junk. Hopefully that's all it is, is a bent quad. While it's in gear, I don't have any slipping sensation so I think the disc is fine. Anyone here have or had a quad problem, if so, can you describe the syptoms. Maybe some engagement issues and unnessary time spent shifting has aided in my slow times. Tranny sounds noise and scratchy as it has been. I've heard this is just the way of the beast for anyone with a 3650. Thanks again for all the help and tips, no track this weekend until the new problem is fixed. __________________ BBK coated LT's,MAC o/r prochamber, Flowmaster catback, UPR CAI, T-56 from 03 cobra, Spec stage 2, Steeda tri-ax shifter, Accufab plenum/75TB Polished. MSD Coils, NGK TR6s, Built 31 spline rear w/ 3.73s, H/R's and KYB's, 18" black bullits With 305 Nitto DR's and 265 555's upfront, FRPP Red Pony Brakes

11-23-2005, 05:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
stangspeed Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 464	Were you running at Little River"? I would think so if your at Fort Hood...I grew up on that track with my father..Its a tough one to run. __________________ 2000-Mustang 4.6L :Hurst Billet/Plus shifter, Steeda 3.73 gears, Sprangz Double D, BBK 75mm throttle body, C&L Trueflow Intake Plenum, Magna Flow Tru-X no cats, Magna Flow Cat Back, Demolet Cold Air Intake, Hypertech III, Coil-Over Plasma Booster, Kenny Brown Sub-frames"welded", Kenny Brown frame & rear tower braces, 4pt. G-load brace, FFRP Aluminum drive-shaft. Soon to come: "Building a 347 stroker"

12-18-2005, 09:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
MjCorn23 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ramstein, Germany Posts: 122	Get you some MT ET Streets and that should do the trick to knock you down a few tenths. When you are running them make sure that you warm them up good though, also it might take a couple of passes to find just the right tire pressure __________________ Mustang anythng else is just a wannabe

12-18-2005, 10:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
can'tbanmefool Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1	with a 99 - you don't have a 3650... the t-45 should be worse (lol sorry) but speedshifting (powershifting) is not good your stuff... its works but its not a good - advise against that

12-19-2005, 07:41 AM	#12 (permalink)
timstpetefl Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: St. Petersburg, Florida Posts: 230	My advise is to get some meat on the back of that car. But just remember, our rear ends dont hold up very well under those conditions, you may want to get some axes and gears along the way also. Ive seen tons of MACHs and GT's snap rear ends just by adding someting sticky on the back. I run cheap Sumitomo 315's in the back with about 20lb at the track. only mods I have are OR X-pipe, flowmasters, BBK CAI. I went from 9.5's to 9.2's in the 1/8 just from the x-pipe alone. 60' times are 1.9 and 2.0 consistantly. My launch RPM has been about 2.5k but was bogging at launch a lil, may need to bump it to 3k or so myself. __________________

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