As said about the McCain Video.. "Interesting."

US Citizen? You decide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

Deciding when a baby has rights is "above his pay rate."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcGj78YoOHk

Can you really vote for this? Unbelievable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

Really interested in Chris' comments on those last two there.

Can you name one Accomplishment by Obama? FOX.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzFOOcEQtP0

Even Funnier, MSNBC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGeu_4Ekx-o



What more can I say about this guy? He's Just no good.

 

if you like mccain so much why dont you just marry him?

lol

 

I dont give a flying **** who becomes the Prez...but if Osama Obama isnt a damn US citizen by birth then he needs to be deported.

but again, I dont really care.

 

you know obama paid for advertising on Xbox. burnout paradise i think is the game.

 

He managed to eat an entire bowl of pudding once..... is that an accomplishment?

lol...

 

Your too much.

 

your an idiot... u have to be born a citizen to be president remember...

 

i think the law is that you have to be a naturalized citizen... McCain was actually born in Panama while his father was stationed there.

 

zzing!

 

He was born in panama but it was at an american military base and both his parents were american so he is a natural born us citizen

a naturalized citizen can not be president


sorry big guy

 

Too much what? Too much truth for you? It's ok.

By law you have to be classified as a naturally born US citizen, otherwise like Lazer said we may have had the Terminator in office. -- The first video clearly states that McCain provided access to all medical records, birth certificates, etc. to prove that he was a natural born citizen, Obama err, Soetoro, Dunham... Barry... Can't seem to show any evidence that he was even originally born in this country.

You really are as dumb as you look huh? It's ok.. We already knew that too.


Honestly, I don't even know why we are arguing about this part. I would hope that most of you would be more worried about his views on murdering helpless babies. This is just disgusting and I would hope that most of you would agree. What's next? "My three year old was just really bothering me so I decided to shoot him in the head, but it's ok it was just an abortion.." This is not the man that needs to lead this country, he has too many skelatons in the closet, too many things to hide.

 

I'm getting tired of correcting your BS so I'm not going to spend much time on this. I don't mind when you share your views, but at least keep things in context and stop with the junk. Hell even John McCain is starting to defend Obama against some of the crazies that say the exact things you are.

I've never seen so much hatred and BS around a presidental candidate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBOanwShb0M

 

Are you ******* kidding me? You are the biggest dousche to grace these forums in a looong time.

notice I said "US citizen by BIRTH" learn to read retard.

 

Wahh, bitch, whine, moan. There was nothing out of context about what I said at all, if you're ok with killing babies after they are born then I want absolutely nothing to do with you at all. If you truly feel that infanticide is OK then you are an extremely disgusting human being.

Yes, people are booing because John has integrity, something that Obama lacks entirely. I guess because some people are booing McCain I should just jump on the bandwagon too huh? No thanks. Call me a radical, call me crazy, I don't give two *****, nothing that I say or do can ever hold a candle to all of the horrible things that Obama has done, voted for, and supports.

This country is going straight down the ******* with people like him and if we elect him, we deserve everything that we're going to get. I just don't get it, there is so much evidence right in front of our faces, go look at his voting record, if you honestly think he'll lower taxes you're flat out of your minds. People are unbelievable.

 

See, theres where I draw the line and i decide to not hold much back.

Heres my views:

On the presidential race:
Both candidates are both qualified to be President, and will hopefully do a better job than our current one.
On John McCain:
I respect him for what he said when his supporters booed him. I really respect him for the job he did serving our country.
On Barack Obama:
I respect him for what he plans on doing, and what he has accomplished. I truly think he will do a better job in office.

On WNRacing:
You don't know your *** from your elbow. You are an embarassment to every intelligent McCain supporter on the face of this earth. Never once did I come out and make such extreme accusations on Senator McCain like you do on Senator Obama. Even John McCain himself doesn't make such accusations. You think hes a terrorist, you think hes lying about where he was born, and you think he is a baby killer. Yup, thats what he does, at night he dresses up in blue spandex and kills babies. Something tells me if he wasn't black there wouldn't be such a mystery surrounding him by rednecks such as yourself.

You have no credibility on here when it comes to politics. Believe it or not, chances are Obama is going to be our next president, whether you like it or not.

Just for the hell of it, i'll throw something out there about John McCain. What are the chances of him being a POW for such a long time? Maybe he was spilling government secrets, who knows.

 

You are right, McCain does have integrity and that's why he won't stand for people like you who talk a bunch of mess that isn't true. He actually has so much integrity that it's going to cost him this election because I think the whole "attacking" thing isn't sitting well with him.

I've said it before, your problem is that YOU think YOUR way of thinking is the ONLY way, and that tells me you don't know **** because you are unwilling to look at the full picture. You are radical, anyone can see this by your previous posts on political topics.

You have taken Obama's abortion issue out of context. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE LANGUAGE OF THE BILL SAID THAT HE VOTED AGAINST.....NONE. Somewhere in that bill it could have said the we should let all prisoners go and that ONE sentence could cause Legislators to vote no, but then they nailed by people like you who didn't take the time to read it.

in 1997 and 2000 Obama voted against the partial birth abortion because there was language in the bill that could have criminalized all abortions and made doctors felons who did them. The legislation also didn't include specific language to protect abortions necessary to protect the mothers health. So please don't tell me Obama is in favor of killing babies just for the **** of it or killing a 3 year old cause they won't shut up.

Oh by the way, please tell me what Obama has done that was so horrible? Was he out performing abortions with a coat hanger or something?

You my friend need to stop drinking the Sean Hannity kool aid because he's not telling you the truth and most of his cult aren't smart enough to go research the crap that comes out of his mouth.

 

Thanks jjtgiants. Finally someone besides me correcting this douchebag.

 

do you actually believe that crap?

you really dont do yourself any justice by posting up such rediculous hyperbole. You come across as another extremist nutjob who uses fear to badger and bully others into believing the rediculoius things you believe.

Im suprised you havent started bellowing out about how obama wears dynamite strapped to a vest under his suit.

I bet if Obama was a hunter you would be screaming about how he likes to slaughter and murder animals for his own twisted enjoyment

Or of you overheared his wife ask him what he wants for dinner and he says "I dont care, whatever sounds good", i bet you would start spouting out that Obama does not care what he has for dinner and would even be willing to eat aborted fortuses

Or maybe he enjoyed the Movie Shindlers list, that must mean that he plans to become the new hitler and exterminate all the jews in giant ovens that he is building out of aborted fortuses and dead animals that were left in his wake.


nobody takes anything you say seriously, all you do is spout out doomsday hyperbole


i read the junk you say and i have to keep aksing myself "Does he actually believe this ****?"

 

I got a new tag in my sig.

lol


Wnracing,
Yer so preoccupied with bashin obama that i really dont think i have ever seen you say anything good about Mccain.

 

JJ, Steeda, Fine. I'll ask you.

"What has Senator Obama Accomplished?"

Simple question. Right?

 

Steeda, You just agreed that you had to be a naturalized citizen to be nominated for presidency, don't talk to me about ignorance.

 

How the hell did i agree? lol. I said zzzzzing referring to what Stephen said as a joke.


Jack, new sig!

 

Is he not running for president of the United States? That should be enough.


Just for kicks, heres a few things that he's done that YOU could never do.

Law degree from Harvard.
President of Harvard Law Review
U.S Senator
Civil Rights Lawyer (you probably wouldn't want to be one of these anyway)
Constitutional Law Teacher
Oh yeah, and a Presidential Nominee.



You talk about all this **** hes voted for, and how hes going to raise taxes. I love the fact that he passed a law allowing every American to go online and see how their tax dollars is spent. That is awesome to me.

 

what the **** has mccain accomplished?

is that the best you do? repeat crap you see on the internet?

well steeda just listed 6 things off the top of his head. There ya go.

That brilliant STUMPER of a question really just got shot the **** down diddnt it?


WNracing, you can vote for whoever you want, you can argue the virtues of whoever you want, however, dont ecpect anyone to give you the slightest amount of credibility when all yer doing is basic schoolyard **** talking.

so far you have never from what i have seen been able to come up with any facts, all you do is spout out this rediculous hyperbole rhetoric and declare worst case scenarios and doomsday nonsence that from what i can tell is 100% baseless... it is nothing more than absurdly twisted facts wrangled into a pitchfork and torch that you can wave about the end of america.

Yer not a stupid person, but it is amazing you actually believe this nonsence.


I mean, really?... you really think if obama is gonna become president that people are just gonna go around shooting 3 year olds?...

Can you actually tell me, that you FULLY believe that people would be doing this?... And im not talking about ANY other situation im talking about this exact scenario that you brought up, i AM asking YOU, if YOU REALLY BELIEVE that mom will one day get fed up with her 3 year old son and shoot him and call it an abortion. Because if yer gonna pull the most rediculous situations into play, i fully expect you to tell me that you really feel that it will happen on a regular basis.

If you really think so, i suggest you go talk to a therapist because you have some major psychological issues if you think that is what people will start doing.


sorry man, but it sure looks to me like you got suckered into some extremist anti-obama group and yer actually dumb enough to believe the crap they are telling you.


Try actually spending a tiny scrap of time and scratch beneath the surface of the bullshit you have been spouting out.

You dont have to like obama, you dont have to vote for obama, but the stance yer taking makes you look like a goddamn fool. You make all the other diehard Mccain supporters look like a freakin joke. Honestly, i wouldnt be suprised if people see the way you talk about this and get scared of what mccain must be like if his supporters act like you, and then end up voting for obama.

You have absolutly no interest in presenting any type of intellectual debate, all you are doing is spouting scare tactics and bullshit.

 

Hey lookie here!

A 5 SECOND INTERNET SEARCH!

 

Fact check and CNN Chris? Come on man. Might as well take "facts" directly from Obama's web site. I really hope that was a joke.

Are you telling me that it doesn't bother you in the least that the man won't show his birth certificate, won't release any of his medical records, won't prove who he says he is? Im speaking seriously here. It doesn't bother you at all? It doesn't bother you that he has voted 3 times to allow LIVING, BREATHING babies to suffer and die? If that doesn't bother you Chris, then I just honestly don't know what to say. It doesn't bother you that he thinks the national anthem is abbrasive, and that he thinks we should tone it down? It doesn't bother you that he wouldn't wear an American flag pin until he was practically guilted into it by a veteran?

You know, the Obama camp released a statistic that people are more likely to believe what they heard first, no matter what comes along to refute it as fact. Sure does look like it's working. Because no matter what is revealed, it's obvious that his campaign has done a great job of covering the truth in more and more believable lies.

It's obvious that no matter what I say you're going to blow it out of proportion and I'm going to get ganged up on for your entertainment. I posted a few videos, hell one that was even from MSNBC, the MOST liberal news station on television, made a hypothetical statement and boom all of the Osama fan boys jump out and try to bitch fight on the internet.

This is honestly a really sad time for America. I'm sad that it is happening as my generation gets to vote for the first time, and we don't even get to choose a candidate that is truly worth voting for. We have to choose the lesser of evil, instead of the patriot for our country.

 

see, more hyperbole.

as expected.

FAIL!

 

How the **** is anything that I said in my last post exxagerated? Please explain.

 

Im not sure i understand why he should have to show everyone his medical records and his birth certificate. Those are his business and have absolutly NOTHING in my view to do with his ability to run the country. I dont see why he should have to publish and make public personal information to the scrutiniy of all america because some asshat is making a rediculous claim.
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Here is a good answer. Please Read.

according to the Civil Rights Act of April 9, 1866, "'All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power are declared to be citizens of the United States.'"
"Senator Obama was born in the State of Hawaii two years after it became a state on Aug.21, 1959 As such, he acquired United States citizenship automatically at birth. While it is not necessary to go into all of the other legal errors contained in the posting (and there are many), the simple fact is that, with rare exceptions (children of diplomats), everyone born in the United States is a citizen of the United States at birth."
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/po...citizen_y.html

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So ho sure are you that is what he voted for? or maybe there was somethingelse in the bill he voted AGAINST.

from obama himself
On an issue like partial birth abortion, I strongly believe that the state can properly restrict late-term abortions. I have said so repeatedly. All I've said is we should have a provision to protect the health of the mother, and many of the bills that came before me didn't have that.


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The problem with these abortion bills is there is never anything clear cut about it. They are full of little things each side is trying to sneak through. He was concerned about the health of the mother. The isse with the whole protecting the mothers life, well, that just means she has a pulse. It does not take into the account of paralysis, coma, brain death, infertility, etc, that are not taken in consideration

what yer doing is taking one of the many aspects of the bill and you are turning it into what you want it to be. He felt it was not good enough, he felt it did not cover everything that needed to be covered so he shot it down knowing it would be rewritten and come back hopefully in better shape.

Yer making it into what you want it to be.

Where is your american flag pin? This is just another rediculous thing blown out of proportion and turned into something it is now.

perhaps he understands that there is more to the lyrics than what is in the first verse which is what is commonly sung, seeing as how he is not christian, maybe he doesent like the "in god we trust"

Seeing as how we are a county founded on various aspects like "freedom of religion" also known as the FIRST AMMENDMENT, yeah, maybe he is a bit put off that a country that toutes freedom of religion requires him to support a song that has christian overtones.

My view uis "Get over it" but if it bugs him, i could care less.

Seeing as how since you heared obama wasnt a citizen, you declare it true, in fact, you seem to whole heartedly agree with every single anti-obama thing you hear. .......... ya know, the funny thing, is you dont hear the rebuttal of the claim first... you hear the accousation first.... arent you believing the accousation over the rebuttal?....

All hardcore ANTI obama know what it measn to blow things out of proportion, thats all they do.

what? somone thinks he might not be a citizen? AHHHH GRAB THE PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES LETS START A MOB!

he voted against an abortion related bill and there was a mention about partial birth abortions? BAAARERRRGH!!!! AHHHH GRAB THE PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES LETS START A MOB

A pic was taken with obama not covering his heart during the national anthem? (and many pics he DOES have his hand over his heart?) AHHHH GRAB THE PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES LETS START A MOB

this is something i will definatly agree with. But dont worry, after time you get used the the douchebag and the crap sammich.


I understand you are into politics, but the fact is a lot of the crap i see about obama is absolutly rediculous. Im sure if i spent 10 min on the internet i could find all kinds of reasons why Mccain is the end of the world.

in my view, anything too far to the left, and anything too far to the right should immediatly be discounted because it is probably full of ****, take a look at the middle ground and try to decide who is better for america, rather than witch hunting.

 

I'm sorry if I implied that Obama isn't an American citizen, I think the video that was posted pretty much summed up my question. Is he a Naturally born Citizen or a "Naturalised Citizen?" I believe that he has a responsibility to all American people to show us that he is lawfully able and justified to run for our "highest office."

Abortion is going to be a he said she said run around no matter what, you have different views than I do, I'm not sure that Steeda has any views on it, and I know that JJ has different views as well. I personally don't particularly agree with many of your views because I believe that we have a right to "decide" or "choose" before we engage in mutually consenting sex. We've already proven that "babies health, mothers health, rape, etc" only account for a very small portion of the abortions in this country. I will say this, I don't care who it is, if they support leaving born babies out to die a horrible death alone I do not support them, no matter what. If it had been McCain that had voted for Infanticide I would vote for Obama, period. That alone would be a deal breaker.

I guess that none of us can truly make assumptions about Obama's patriotism, I feel that it is questionable at best. You'll have to watch the video from all of the media outlets and decide for yourself. There is no doubt in my mind that Obama is a smooth talker, far more smooth than McCain and that makes him more likable. People like fluent smooth talkers and there is no question about that.