Crazy Bus Ride
#4
05-24-2005, 10:10 AM
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I saw this already. The two kids were charged with a felony and the bus driver was charged with a misdemeanor. The bus driver was a substitute driver, and he was trying to get the kid in front to put his seat belt on.
#7
05-24-2005, 06:24 PM
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ya know, when i was a kid adults werent allowed to beat us up, but they never told us kids, so there was always that fear of gettin smacked.
Now-a-days kids all know that the adults cannot do anything to them, so the concept of reprimand is not heavily installed as they have nothing to fear pain wise.
personally, i dont think there is anything wrong with smacking a kid upside the head if he mouths off, as long as you dont go much further.
if you break it down, pain is a learning mechanism.
You mess with fire and get burned and it hurts and yer dumbass remembers it.
Well, if that bus driver was allowed to legally smack that kid, i bet that situation wouldnt have happened in the first place cause that kid would have probably gotten punked for a similar stunt in the past and would have learned to behave, and all would have been right in the universe.
Does the occasional smack result in behaviorial problems later in life? I dont buy that. My parents were raised in the time that if you mouthed off you got switched. That entire generation seems pretty stable and level headed to me.
personally, i think we are doing the children an injustice by not smacking them when they get out of line, because it takes them a lot longer to understand the concept of cause and effect and how to behave.
ok you damn hippies, take yer best patchulie smokin shot!
all this political correct crap really grates my nerves sometimes.
Hell, did you hear about the advocacy group that is attacking burger king because thier kids meals come loaded with star wars stuff? They say it is unappropriate cause the movie is rated PG-13. Give me a break. Somone give these people something important to do. I cant believe somone actually gets paid for that crap.
Hi! I'm J.R. Douchebag, and I spend my time fighting stupid battles, wasting tax payer money, and imposing my point of view on people to protect the land of the free as long as you share my same belief.
go crawl under a rock and die.
Now-a-days kids all know that the adults cannot do anything to them, so the concept of reprimand is not heavily installed as they have nothing to fear pain wise.
personally, i dont think there is anything wrong with smacking a kid upside the head if he mouths off, as long as you dont go much further.
if you break it down, pain is a learning mechanism.
You mess with fire and get burned and it hurts and yer dumbass remembers it.
Well, if that bus driver was allowed to legally smack that kid, i bet that situation wouldnt have happened in the first place cause that kid would have probably gotten punked for a similar stunt in the past and would have learned to behave, and all would have been right in the universe.
Does the occasional smack result in behaviorial problems later in life? I dont buy that. My parents were raised in the time that if you mouthed off you got switched. That entire generation seems pretty stable and level headed to me.
personally, i think we are doing the children an injustice by not smacking them when they get out of line, because it takes them a lot longer to understand the concept of cause and effect and how to behave.
ok you damn hippies, take yer best patchulie smokin shot!
all this political correct crap really grates my nerves sometimes.
Hell, did you hear about the advocacy group that is attacking burger king because thier kids meals come loaded with star wars stuff? They say it is unappropriate cause the movie is rated PG-13. Give me a break. Somone give these people something important to do. I cant believe somone actually gets paid for that crap.
Hi! I'm J.R. Douchebag, and I spend my time fighting stupid battles, wasting tax payer money, and imposing my point of view on people to protect the land of the free as long as you share my same belief.
go crawl under a rock and die.
#8
05-24-2005, 06:27 PM
unfortunly the reason kids now a days are like that was because back in the old days adults where very abusive so now that those kids have grown up and become parents they teach thier kids not to take any Sh#% from any body..
that and thier is to many lawyers....
that and thier is to many lawyers....
#9
05-24-2005, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by w01stang
unfortunly the reason kids now a days are like that was because back in the old days adults where very abusive so now that those kids have grown up and become parents they teach thier kids not to take any Sh#% from any body..
that and thier is to many lawyers....
that and thier is to many lawyers....
if that were the case then this wouldnt be anything new. People have been beating the crap out of thier kids since the stone age. personally i believe it is cause parents are not allowed to dicipline thier children the way they should. I dont think they should kick thier ***, definatly smother the children with love, but at the same time they need that dicipline
#10
05-24-2005, 06:31 PM
Originally Posted by slappy
ya know, when i was a kid adults werent allowed to beat us up, but they never told us kids, so there was always that fear of gettin smacked.
Now-a-days kids all know that the adults cannot do anything to them, so the concept of reprimand is not heavily installed as they have nothing to fear pain wise.
personally, i dont think there is anything wrong with smacking a kid upside the head if he mouths off, as long as you dont go much further.
if you break it down, pain is a learning mechanism.
You mess with fire and get burned and it hurts and yer dumbass remembers it.
Well, if that bus driver was allowed to legally smack that kid, i bet that situation wouldnt have happened in the first place cause that kid would have probably gotten punked for a similar stunt in the past and would have learned to behave, and all would have been right in the universe.
Does the occasional smack result in behaviorial problems later in life? I dont buy that. My parents were raised in the time that if you mouthed off you got switched. That entire generation seems pretty stable and level headed to me.
personally, i think we are doing the children an injustice by not smacking them when they get out of line, because it takes them a lot longer to understand the concept of cause and effect and how to behave.
ok you damn hippies, take yer best patchulie smokin shot!
all this political correct crap really grates my nerves sometimes.
Hell, did you hear about the advocacy group that is attacking burger king because thier kids meals come loaded with star wars stuff? They say it is unappropriate cause the movie is rated PG-13. Give me a break. Somone give these people something important to do. I cant believe somone actually gets paid for that crap.
Hi! I'm J.R. Douchebag, and I spend my time fighting stupid battles, wasting tax payer money, and imposing my point of view on people to protect the land of the free as long as you share my same belief.
go crawl under a rock and die.
Now-a-days kids all know that the adults cannot do anything to them, so the concept of reprimand is not heavily installed as they have nothing to fear pain wise.
personally, i dont think there is anything wrong with smacking a kid upside the head if he mouths off, as long as you dont go much further.
if you break it down, pain is a learning mechanism.
You mess with fire and get burned and it hurts and yer dumbass remembers it.
Well, if that bus driver was allowed to legally smack that kid, i bet that situation wouldnt have happened in the first place cause that kid would have probably gotten punked for a similar stunt in the past and would have learned to behave, and all would have been right in the universe.
Does the occasional smack result in behaviorial problems later in life? I dont buy that. My parents were raised in the time that if you mouthed off you got switched. That entire generation seems pretty stable and level headed to me.
personally, i think we are doing the children an injustice by not smacking them when they get out of line, because it takes them a lot longer to understand the concept of cause and effect and how to behave.
ok you damn hippies, take yer best patchulie smokin shot!
all this political correct crap really grates my nerves sometimes.
Hell, did you hear about the advocacy group that is attacking burger king because thier kids meals come loaded with star wars stuff? They say it is unappropriate cause the movie is rated PG-13. Give me a break. Somone give these people something important to do. I cant believe somone actually gets paid for that crap.
Hi! I'm J.R. Douchebag, and I spend my time fighting stupid battles, wasting tax payer money, and imposing my point of view on people to protect the land of the free as long as you share my same belief.
go crawl under a rock and die.
#11
05-24-2005, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by w01stang
Well I know a ton of kids that where abused and smacked around they end up murdering their parents.... I believe in self preservation you attack me I have the right to defend my self...words are just words....
i just thing socioty got too wrapped up in this politically correct stuff and lost sight of the different learning abilitys humans have as well as the need to instill dicipline.
Now if you smack yer kid yer an ABUSER. Then you see these kids on TV on those daytime shows running amok, breakin stuff, screaming at thier pareents, and one thing they all have in common is thier parents fail to instill diciple. they threaten to take away thier xbox but never follow through. they threaten to ground them but never follow through.
beating a kid senceless is never a good idea. Nor is burning, whipping, or any of that. But a wmack upside the head or a good spanking when they deserve it important to a healthy upbringing.
dont confuse my view that smacking a kid that is out of line means that i advocate abuse, which as the supreme court says about **** "you know it when you see it"
#12
05-24-2005, 06:41 PM
problem lies with parenting skill and what is allowed. Sorry but nothing was handed to me i had to earn it all. And guess what, if i did something wrong, I got punished for it. and none of this well you can go ahead and go here or do this crap. No sir, sounds like this kid dont give respect to his own parents.
#13
05-24-2005, 06:43 PM
Originally Posted by slappy
if that were the case then this wouldnt be anything new. People have been beating the crap out of thier kids since the stone age. personally i believe it is cause parents are not allowed to dicipline thier children the way they should. I dont think they should kick thier ***, definatly smother the children with love, but at the same time they need that dicipline
#14
05-24-2005, 10:18 PM
My 2 Cents:
I'm only 20 years old, I don't have children, but I know that the type of "disipline" you guys are talking about is not right. Smacking, spanking, hitting...nope...None of it. What that busdriver did was 120% wrong. I don't care what the reason for hitting the kid. He is the authority figure, he is the adult, he needs to act like it. If you were in that situation what would you learn? If I put myself in that spot, I take out of it as an adult I can hit kids cause I'm bigger, and cause I'm older. In psychology, it's what we call "negative reinforcement." It is by no means helpful. Using "positive reinforcement" would work out much better. True, it won't always happen that way, but you have to try. I'm not saying that when I grow up further and I have children that I will let them walk all over me... No, I will not let that happen. I have seen what happens when children are allowed to do whatever they want. But what people need to realize is that there are ways without using any kid of physicality to teach their children respect. As I have always thought and believed, "Respect is a two-way street. You got to give it to get it."
Peace.
I'm only 20 years old, I don't have children, but I know that the type of "disipline" you guys are talking about is not right. Smacking, spanking, hitting...nope...None of it. What that busdriver did was 120% wrong. I don't care what the reason for hitting the kid. He is the authority figure, he is the adult, he needs to act like it. If you were in that situation what would you learn? If I put myself in that spot, I take out of it as an adult I can hit kids cause I'm bigger, and cause I'm older. In psychology, it's what we call "negative reinforcement." It is by no means helpful. Using "positive reinforcement" would work out much better. True, it won't always happen that way, but you have to try. I'm not saying that when I grow up further and I have children that I will let them walk all over me... No, I will not let that happen. I have seen what happens when children are allowed to do whatever they want. But what people need to realize is that there are ways without using any kid of physicality to teach their children respect. As I have always thought and believed, "Respect is a two-way street. You got to give it to get it."
Peace.
#15
05-27-2005, 10:05 AM
Originally Posted by BeatTheBrat94
My 2 Cents:
I'm only 20 years old, I don't have children, but I know that the type of "disipline" you guys are talking about is not right. Smacking, spanking, hitting...nope...None of it. What that busdriver did was 120% wrong. I don't care what the reason for hitting the kid. He is the authority figure, he is the adult, he needs to act like it. If you were in that situation what would you learn? If I put myself in that spot, I take out of it as an adult I can hit kids cause I'm bigger, and cause I'm older. In psychology, it's what we call "negative reinforcement." It is by no means helpful. Using "positive reinforcement" would work out much better. True, it won't always happen that way, but you have to try. I'm not saying that when I grow up further and I have children that I will let them walk all over me... No, I will not let that happen. I have seen what happens when children are allowed to do whatever they want. But what people need to realize is that there are ways without using any kid of physicality to teach their children respect. As I have always thought and believed, "Respect is a two-way street. You got to give it to get it."
Peace.
I'm only 20 years old, I don't have children, but I know that the type of "disipline" you guys are talking about is not right. Smacking, spanking, hitting...nope...None of it. What that busdriver did was 120% wrong. I don't care what the reason for hitting the kid. He is the authority figure, he is the adult, he needs to act like it. If you were in that situation what would you learn? If I put myself in that spot, I take out of it as an adult I can hit kids cause I'm bigger, and cause I'm older. In psychology, it's what we call "negative reinforcement." It is by no means helpful. Using "positive reinforcement" would work out much better. True, it won't always happen that way, but you have to try. I'm not saying that when I grow up further and I have children that I will let them walk all over me... No, I will not let that happen. I have seen what happens when children are allowed to do whatever they want. But what people need to realize is that there are ways without using any kid of physicality to teach their children respect. As I have always thought and believed, "Respect is a two-way street. You got to give it to get it."
Peace.
Lol, did anyone notice that the motha fuc** guy said he would punch the driver's lights out? O man I would've loved to see him try.
Lesson: Don't f*** with the bus driver bit**es
#16
05-27-2005, 10:25 AM
Originally Posted by w01stang
true but think about it... I agree with parents smacking their kids from time to time...but I don’t agree with someone else smacking my kid....in that case the bus drive need to be held responsible for his action he should of waited to deputy got their and the kid could of gotten arrested. But know the adult took the law into his own hands because he is not equipped with the patience to deal with kids... I know this anyone lays a finger on I’m kids they will face the desert eagle...
#17
05-27-2005, 10:58 AM
Originally Posted by BeatTheBrat94
My 2 Cents:
I'm only 20 years old, I don't have children, but I know that the type of "disipline" you guys are talking about is not right. Smacking, spanking, hitting...nope...None of it. What that busdriver did was 120% wrong. I don't care what the reason for hitting the kid. He is the authority figure, he is the adult, he needs to act like it. If you were in that situation what would you learn? If I put myself in that spot, I take out of it as an adult I can hit kids cause I'm bigger, and cause I'm older. In psychology, it's what we call "negative reinforcement." It is by no means helpful. Using "positive reinforcement" would work out much better. True, it won't always happen that way, but you have to try. I'm not saying that when I grow up further and I have children that I will let them walk all over me... No, I will not let that happen. I have seen what happens when children are allowed to do whatever they want. But what people need to realize is that there are ways without using any kid of physicality to teach their children respect. As I have always thought and believed, "Respect is a two-way street. You got to give it to get it."
Peace.
I'm only 20 years old, I don't have children, but I know that the type of "disipline" you guys are talking about is not right. Smacking, spanking, hitting...nope...None of it. What that busdriver did was 120% wrong. I don't care what the reason for hitting the kid. He is the authority figure, he is the adult, he needs to act like it. If you were in that situation what would you learn? If I put myself in that spot, I take out of it as an adult I can hit kids cause I'm bigger, and cause I'm older. In psychology, it's what we call "negative reinforcement." It is by no means helpful. Using "positive reinforcement" would work out much better. True, it won't always happen that way, but you have to try. I'm not saying that when I grow up further and I have children that I will let them walk all over me... No, I will not let that happen. I have seen what happens when children are allowed to do whatever they want. But what people need to realize is that there are ways without using any kid of physicality to teach their children respect. As I have always thought and believed, "Respect is a two-way street. You got to give it to get it."
Peace.
#18
05-27-2005, 12:52 PM
Originally Posted by w01stang
Well I know a ton of kids that where abused and smacked around they end up murdering their parents.... I believe in self preservation you attack me I have the right to defend my self...words are just words....
#19
05-27-2005, 10:27 PM
Originally Posted by caballo
Huge diff between abuse and discipline...
#20
05-28-2005, 01:03 AM
Originally Posted by mgar22
:laughing4...Coming from a guy named "BeatTheBrat" :thumbsup: And if I was in that situation, what would I learn?? I would learn not to f@ck with adults. And you said it yourself, You got to give it to get it. The kid didn't respect what the bus driver was trying to tell him, then the kid mouthed off to him calling him a MF'er and he got smacked. The kid didn't give respect, so he got what was coming to him. I guarantee that kid will think twice about mouthing off like that again.
B) well...Let's just say this:
The bus driver started out as an *** and didn't make things better. However, the child did what every child does at one point or another in their life...Was a punk-*** little ****. Plain and simple, if you're going to let someone's kid like that get to you, you gotta re-evaluate your life, and your self-control. Yeah...anyone who kicks a kids' *** over that needs help, the kid just needs to grow up a bit, and calm down.
Peace. Out.
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