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stangkid1993 06-30-2009 12:49 PM

eclipse beating GT??
 
There's a chick that goes to our school that says her 2003 eclipse GS beat a 2003 mustang GT. Does anyone beileve this at all? I know i dont, just wanted some opinions on it.

Lazerred6 06-30-2009 01:03 PM

It's not very likely but if the mustang was a stick and the driver sucked it could be possible

I have also noticed that people in eclipses seem to think they are racing someone that is not in fact racing them

3.8for the win 06-30-2009 01:17 PM

unless she has a big turbo on there its not going to happen.

x04V6x 06-30-2009 01:30 PM

There's a kid in my town that says his all stock Talon with an exhaust would stomp the fuck out of my friend's built gt. He also asked me if my Mach was a 3.8, I'm sure he thinks he could smoke me too hahaha. I rev at him every time I see him.

stangkid1993 06-30-2009 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by 3.8for the win (Post 416607)
unless she has a big turbo on there its not going to happen.

she has no turbo

stangkid1993 06-30-2009 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Lazerred6 (Post 416603)
It's not very likely but if the mustang was a stick and the driver sucked it could be possible

I have also noticed that people in eclipses seem to think they are racing someone that is not in fact racing them

The stang is automatic, and he actually knows how to race

01FR500 06-30-2009 02:06 PM

There is no possible fawking way. My girlfriend has a 2002 Eclipse GS 5spd (which I drive regularly) and I have a 2003 GT 5spd, there is no comparision....AT ALL. The Eclipse can barely get out of it's own way. She would need a power adder, which you said she doesn't, so she looses.

Edit: I'm actually a memeber on Club3G forum just to hang around and learn about the Eclipses in case I ever have to do anything to my GF's car. The ones with any sense will admit that a GT will always beat a N/A Eclipse, even the six cylinder's. The only close race for a Eclipse is a V6 Mustang (That is a pretty general statement that does not take into many varibles.)

LilMissLayla 06-30-2009 02:10 PM

My first car was an Eclipse GS. No way in hell. It couldn't beat a fucking Spectra let along a Mustang GT. Lmao.

SnTBakosFinest 06-30-2009 04:37 PM

Only eclipse thats going to hang with a GT or take him are the 06+s 6 cylinders..and yes..I've watched it happen, a few times, to a few different drivers..

Bwhipple 07-01-2009 04:11 AM

I've got a 4 cyl. '95 Eagle Talon AWD Tsi (eclipse) with very little mods that would walk all over a stock GT.

King 07-01-2009 09:13 AM

Mom used to have an eclipse. No way.

08mustang_gt 07-01-2009 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Bwhipple (Post 416734)
I've got a 4 cyl. '95 Eagle Talon AWD Tsi (eclipse) with very little mods that would walk all over a stock GT.

I was going to say Eagle Talons are fast as fuck. I drove my buddies in high school all the time. AWD will smoke a GT everytime, even on the interstate. The fact that they only weigh like 2,500 lbs after driver helps too.

Mr. Zip 07-01-2009 10:13 AM

I had an 02 GS. SLOW AS HELL. My v6 beats the hell out it

1996mustangGT 07-01-2009 10:28 AM

My roomate has a 99 GS-X eclipse that has some light mods; i.e exhaust , turbo controller etc etc and my stock (at the time) auto 96 non-pi gt would run all over it.

IN other words, no. The mustang wasnt even racing more than likely

Black Sunshine 07-01-2009 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by x04V6x (Post 416610)
There's a kid in my town that says his all stock Talon with an exhaust would stomp the fuck out of my friend's built gt. He also asked me if my Mach was a 3.8, I'm sure he thinks he could smoke me too hahaha. I rev at him every time I see him.

You should totally lie to him, tell him you do have a 3.8 and say you'll give him $100 if he can beat you. :)

Switch 07-01-2009 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Zip (Post 416798)
I had an 02 GS. SLOW AS HELL. My v6 beats the hell out it

GS is the slowest model :p

INtZ 07-01-2009 04:23 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sj0gsej9MI
gt vs gt and the mustang still won

3.8for the win 07-01-2009 04:27 PM

were talking 06+ GTs.

SnTBakosFinest 07-01-2009 04:53 PM

06+ Eclipse GT v6's are quick. Go find one at the track..

Buddy ran consistent high 13s at 96MPH, while spinning the tires off the launch and into second..

Think he could've seen slightly better times if the traction was there.

Mid to High 13s for a STOCK 99-04 GT around here are pretty normal.

NeedACobra 07-01-2009 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by stangkid1993 (Post 416600)
There's a chick that goes to our school that says her 2003 eclipse GS beat a 2003 mustang GT. Does anyone beileve this at all? I know i dont, just wanted some opinions on it.

Not unless its modded, because I beat an 03 GS easy in my 96 v6.
Bitch is stupid. Slap her in the mouth.

NeedACobra 07-01-2009 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Bwhipple (Post 416734)
I've got a 4 cyl. '95 Eagle Talon AWD Tsi (eclipse) with very little mods that would walk all over a stock GT.

The TSI talons were the only ones worth a shit.

I beat the fucking brakes off of an older 94-95 talon 4 cyl talon that some douchebag kid I knew drove, and then I beat a friend of mines...I dunno...98 talon with a CAI. that thing had trouble getting over 80 like a mofo. hahaha.\



Shoulda multiquoted...oh well.

INtZ 07-01-2009 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by 3.8for the win (Post 416868)
were talking 06+ GTs.

I posted that link for the op

White04GT 07-01-2009 10:31 PM

eclipse's are slow as shit. They are like civic's/accords/ integra's... they shouldn't even be in the same sentence as fast. My buddy has a 06 eclipse GT and that thing is slowwww. It deffiantly does not feel as fast as my GT did stock.

SnTBakosFinest 07-02-2009 01:35 AM


Originally Posted by White04GT (Post 416929)
eclipse's are slow as shit. They are like civic's/accords/ integra's... they shouldn't even be in the same sentence as fast. My buddy has a 06 eclipse GT and that thing is slowwww. It deffiantly does not feel as fast as my GT did stock.

Feeling and being are two different stories bud.

Switch 07-02-2009 02:10 AM

The old awd turbo model eclipses were pretty quick.

00blkstanggt 07-02-2009 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by 1996mustangGT (Post 416802)
My roomate has a 99 GS-X eclipse that has some light mods; i.e exhaust , turbo controller etc etc and my stock (at the time) auto 96 non-pi gt would run all over it.

IN other words, no. The mustang wasnt even racing more than likely

Your roommate must not have known how to drive. A 99 GSX would pretty easily beat a 96 mustang gt. You can make those older talon and eclipse turbo awd's pretty damn quick. I posted a video of a 600+rwhp cobra at the supra nationals thing getting his ass handed to him by an older talon. But a stock GS model, no. The Mitsubishi 4G63 engine is a pretty tough engine. It can handle close to 500hp on stock internals. Not bad for a 2.0l

White04GT 07-02-2009 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by SnTBakosFinest (Post 416941)
Feeling and being are two different stories bud.

I can promise you a car that weigh's 3500lbs and is rated 250/260 is not faster than a 99-04 GT....bud

Mr. Zip 07-02-2009 08:49 AM

^+1

Lazerred6 07-02-2009 10:43 AM

what the stangs always had going for them was more torque than hp the 5.0s and early 4.6s made between 205-225hp respectivly (except the cobra) but ranged from 275 to 290 ft lbs the 99+ 4.6 has 260hp 305 ft lbs

most smaller motors even if they can match the hp can't get anywhere near the torque cause for a good amont of torque you generally need displacment

people generally talk about hp but torque is what moves you

White04GT 07-02-2009 10:50 AM

The fact of the matter is the 99-04 GT's(stock) vs the 06+ Eclipse "GT"(stock) has less hp and less tq and weighs more. Now commen sense will tell you the power to weight ratio is in favor of the mustang. just my .02


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