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spike_africa 07-21-2009 10:33 AM

Jut get a new set of Sumitomo HTR Z III
 
After my last set of Kuhmo SPT's have now been worn to a slick in the rear and the fronts are screwed from a bad alignment job I had to get all new tires.

I loved the Kuhmo SPT's they are a great tire and I almost bought them again, but I read many reviews and the HTR III's are supposed to have better dry traction then the SPT's and they are cheaper. So I figured why not.

I will post some pics of them next to the 275 SPT's and a little review once I get them here tomorrow. I'll be driving to NC which is almost 900 miles one way for me with these new tires on Friday.

whitestang04 07-21-2009 10:52 AM

Its a good thing you didn't order the HTR Z's or you would have had to replace them after the trip :hahaha:I have heard nothing but good of the Z 3's though I just wish they made them in 315/35/17

spike_africa 07-21-2009 03:59 PM

I would never buy the regular ones. They have a tread wear rating of something super low like 180 or so.

01FR500 07-21-2009 04:12 PM

I've had my HTR Z III for about a year and a half now and have been very happy with them. I tore the fronts up pretty bad at the Memphis OT event. After I go again in September I will probably get a pair of Nitto NT05s to replace the fronts.

Kyanbi 07-21-2009 04:46 PM

Let us know how they're holding up Spike; I'm interested in the traction they provide both dry and wet also. My car came with Nitto NT555's in the rear and some Bridgestone all-season tires in the front and even though this is my first car and I have absolutely nothing to base my experience on, the rear's don't hook up too well.

They have considerable wear but as the tire gets more bald dry traction should go up as it is becoming closer to a slick shouldn't it? I know in the rain I have had to hold the wheel pretty damn tight a few times because my tires are getting to the point of offering no hydroplaning resistance. But from a dig I understand that these cars can spin all the way through first and most of second if you're not properly controlling the throttle, but perhaps my inexperience is just the culptrit.

Sorry for the long rant here, I didn't mean to semi-hijack your thread, but just curious as to the traction they provide and the treadwear (which you obviously won't vouch for yet) from you and others as I'm going to be needing to replace my treads soon. I've heard good things about the Sumi's but just as many good things about the Nitto's...

spike_africa 07-21-2009 05:13 PM

Actually you get worse traction because the softer tread is pretty much gone once you get that low on a tire.

Kyanbi 07-21-2009 07:09 PM

Interesting. Well let us know how the trip goes I'm interested to know how the new shoes hold up! As a side note, did you order them through AM?

SeanStang 07-21-2009 08:53 PM

I have them for my front tires and they have been great so far. Interested to see if they hook better than Kuhmos.


Originally Posted by spike_africa (Post 420175)
I would never buy the regular ones. They have a tread wear rating of something super low like 180 or so.

I wanna say it's 160 lol, compared to the 300 or so that the htrIII's have.

spike_africa 07-22-2009 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by Kyanbi (Post 420191)
Interesting. Well let us know how the trip goes I'm interested to know how the new shoes hold up! As a side note, did you order them through AM?

No they charge to much for them compared to the place I bought them from. They also will show up way faster then from AM.com as I live far from them.

Kyanbi 07-22-2009 05:26 PM

May I ask how much you purchased them for?

WNRacing 07-22-2009 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by Kyanbi (Post 420365)
May I ask how much you purchased them for?

I would probably order them from http://www.onlinetires.com/ ..... They're only like $89-$99.00 there I think.

spike_africa 07-23-2009 07:30 AM

I got mine from Tirerack.com They only cost like $15 more after shipping and I got them the next day.

mustangV6_04 07-23-2009 10:09 AM

omg i need new tires BAD as the fl people know. I had to put my stock 6er wheels back on for the meanwhile till i get the money to buy some tires but I'm planing on getting the sumo htr 3 for the front and getting the nitto DR for the rear. But the bald wheels will be making an appearance at the meet as i dont wanna look gay as fuck with the stock wheels ha

mustangvsix 07-23-2009 02:12 PM

i just put these tires on my car with the new rims. 265's front 285's back. So far they seem like a great tire. I haven't pushed them even close to their full potential but in the bit of spirited driving they have incurred they have done very well, seem very planted and are definitely a great tire. I only have driven them in light rain once, and they seemed to already do worlds better then the HTR Z I's. The HTR Z I's just are a really crappy tire all around they are good for being cheap and that's about it.

PColav6 07-23-2009 02:15 PM

I love teh tirez as well. I only wish they came in 315...

whitestang04 07-23-2009 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by mustangV6_04 (Post 420451)
omg i need new tires BAD as the fl people know. I had to put my stock 6er wheels back on for the meanwhile till i get the money to buy some tires but I'm planing on getting the sumo htr 3 for the front and getting the nitto DR for the rear. But the bald wheels will be making an appearance at the meet as i dont wanna look gay as fuck with the stock wheels ha

Just drive safe. We don't need you doing a PCola just before or during the meet ;)

spike_africa 08-06-2009 07:33 AM

So I have put around 800 miles on them driving to NC from Orlando. I drove through a wicked storm where I could barely see in front of me. They had no problem going 65mph in the rain at all. Over all very good tire in the wet for sure. Dry traction has been great so far. They are a little more stickier then the SPT Kuhmos I had before hand. They do corner better as well. They are pretty evenly matched with the SPT over all, but costs less. So this is a win win for me.

They are however slightly narrower compared to the Kuhmos I had.

Now just have to see how long they last.

krenogin 09-29-2009 08:39 PM

hows those HTR z III's holding up? I think theyre gonna be my next tire when my HTR z II's wear out.. I HATE THESE! Wet traction is a JOKE.... Like drift king joke. But drys amazing.

spike_africa 09-30-2009 07:33 AM

They are holding up really nice even with my aggressive camber settings. I would highly recommend these tires for someone who doesn't want to spend a lot of cash for a good street tire.

krazypony 09-30-2009 08:48 AM

How much they run Spike?

01FR500 09-30-2009 11:21 AM

I have been running my HTR Z III tires for a couple of years now and have been very impressed with them. The only thing about them is that they don't like a lot of heat and will get greasy easy when heated up. I have chunked and worn out my front two tires from open track events, but they do well in mild temperature autocross.

krenogin 09-30-2009 11:54 AM

Yeah, im goin for street, and most of the months in Ky, are kinda cool. So no worries for the heat.. So im set, 275 front 285 rear in these. Thanks guys!

spike_africa 09-30-2009 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by krazypony (Post 432099)
How much they run Spike?

Just search google for the best price. That's what I did, and with shipping tirerack.com was the cheapest when I got mine.

krazypony 10-01-2009 07:17 AM

Ok kewl thanks!

I gotta get some new tires for the front soon, thats for sure....still riding on the stockers!

WaterDR 10-01-2009 09:05 PM

I have been running the same set of HTRZ's for 4 years on my car. They have worn even and never given me any problems. Incidently, I have 15k miles on them. I don't drive this car a lot, but 99% of that time was with 400 rwhp. They will likely last 2 more years.

krazypony 10-02-2009 06:22 AM

well if you dont drive your car alot I guess they would last that long!

01FR500 10-02-2009 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by WaterDR (Post 432407)
I have been running the same set of HTRZ's for 4 years on my car. They have worn even and never given me any problems. Incidently, I have 15k miles on them. I don't drive this car a lot, but 99% of that time was with 400 rwhp. They will likely last 2 more years.

Is it the HTR Z IIIs or the I or IIs that you have? From what I hear about the I and II's, I would never put them on my car, but the III's are very decent tires.


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