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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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Im starting a petition across some of the larger mustang boards. What im trying to do is get Ford to introduce a 7L mustang or bring back the 2.3L Turbo. Im collecting signatures right now. I will be submitting them to Ford shortly (once we have more signatures)

If your interested in seeing either of this cars come into production please sign your name!

Click here for the 7L petition!

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Click here for the 2.3L Turbo petition!
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:53 AM
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does ford make a 7L gas engine as it is? we might have better luck getting them to put a 5.4L in it since they already make them?
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by v6'stang
does ford make a 7L gas engine as it is? we might have better luck getting them to put a 5.4L in it since they already make them?
+1
And ford doesnt really make a great 4 cyl as it is... maybe turbo charge that new 3.5? The new 3.5 is going to make alot of power as it stands.
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Didn't you already have a thread awhile back petitioning for this. I doubt Ford will do it. They have enough problems as it is.
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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i made one awhile back yes.

ford does have a 7l engine

and ford also has good 4cyl engines. how else would an old svo get down to the 9's ??

these two engines were taken out of production because they didnt have the technology back in the day to get them to run as well as they could. now with fuel injection and engine management systems they can do that.
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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Even if they brough back a 7L engine, they would just put it in a truck. Probably one of the big *** work trucks, so I don't see a point. And even if they did a nice turbo 4cycl or something, they would probably stick it in the fusion or some crap. It would have been cool if they had made a turbo SVT focus, but they didn't.
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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well, a petition could be started for a focus svt turbo too, im being realistic here.

ford had a 429ci in a mustang. ford had a turbo 4cyl.

why did they stop production? they couldnt manage the engines with the technology of the time. 70's-80's.

with fuel injection, and our engine management systems these power plants can be brought back.

im not going to sit here and argue with you though, you will either sign the petition for what it is or not. being people here are on a performance mustang site i figure something like this (promoting performance) would be attractive...
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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ok, so lets be realistic.... Ford, a currently floundering company, is not going to revive any old power plant from any era at this point. Right now its too focused on getting into the black. and with that in mind they are only going to produce engines that can be used in multiple vehicles, thus reducing the overall cost of that development by spreading it around to several vehicle instead of one. Ford is in its last "gasp" if you will, if they dont start to turn it around within 2 years they will go the way of the tucker and will be lost to the pages of history. Want proof of this, its easy, Ford went so far as to mortgage its logo in the hopes that they will make money again. so if they dont make money and lose there asses....they lose there logo.. crazy huh. so while we are having this real session, if you were ford would worry about bringing back some old engines because some petition was signed by a bunch of people who most likely wont buy the car anyways. or would you work your *** off to build cars and truck that appeal to the masses.
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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ok, so lets be realistic.... Ford, a currently floundering company, is not going to revive any old power plant from any era at this point. Right now its too focused on getting into the black. and with that in mind they are only going to produce engines that can be used in multiple vehicles, thus reducing the overall cost of that development by spreading it around to several vehicle instead of one. Ford is in its last "gasp" if you will, if they dont start to turn it around within 2 years they will go the way of the tucker and will be lost to the pages of history. Want proof of this, its easy, Ford went so far as to mortgage its logo in the hopes that they will make money again. so if they dont make money and lose there asses....they lose there logo.. crazy huh. so while we are having this real session, if you were ford would worry about bringing back some old engines because some petition was signed by a bunch of people who most likely wont buy the car anyways. or would you work your *** off to build cars and truck that appeal to the masses.
if they are only going to be producing engines that can be used in multiple vehicles then they would toss the 5.4l engines into the mustangs, along with 4cyl in the mustangs and focuses?

right?
 
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I'm not trying to argue, but it's not a very realistic request at this moment. I agree with what 03DSG said, how many people on here would buy the car anyways. If a Shelby cobra with a 5.4L in it costs $45,000 MSRP. My dealership is selling it for $95,000. What would be the cost of a 7L mustang? Only the rich and hardcore collectors would buy it or even afford it. It would be cool, but the people petitioning on this boards probably would never buy one or could afford one. It's not like Baskin Robbins got rid of your favorite ice cream and you got a bunch of people to petition to bring it back and they did. Thats something easy to do. We are talking about redesigning an engine among other things.
 
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Originally Posted by SynisterMustang
if they are only going to be producing engines that can be used in multiple vehicles then they would toss the 5.4l engines into the mustangs, along with 4cyl in the mustangs and focuses?

right?
They already do that except for the 4cyl in the mustang. 5.4l comes in trucks, SUVs, and the Shelby.
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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yes, the thing is i dont want shelby to be posted all over it.

that is the real reason behind the markup isnt it? the namesake? its limited numbers?

if this was a production car, wouldnt it cost the same as what they already have? how does that not make sense? its an option, you would pay for what the upgrade costs...
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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it is a production car, in fact its made on the same line as the standard mustang. i know this because the factory is less than 2 miles form my house. and I see gt500's all the time with manufacturer plates cruising around.
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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well poo, i guess you can lock then thread then. im done with it. i give up on promoting this.
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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sry synister, i didn't mean to start a buncha **** bout askin' that. i agree with you to a point, they should put a nice big engine in an affordable 'stang. but doubt that they will put a big engine in a stang w/out the name to go w/it. if you could get say the 7L engine as an option on the regular GT, say for 35k or so? bout 10k less then the shelby. shelby wouldn't be too happy that a "stock" gt just tore apart their car. granted yes there are the shelby's, roush's, etc. but they're all roughly around the same pwr level. so maybe you should re-do the petition to the "Synister Mustang 7L"
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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poo?
well poo?
POO?
giggle...chuckle....lmao...you said poo!!!!!
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by v6'stang
sry synister, i didn't mean to start a buncha **** bout askin' that. i agree with you to a point, they should put a nice big engine in an affordable 'stang. but doubt that they will put a big engine in a stang w/out the name to go w/it. if you could get say the 7L engine as an option on the regular GT, say for 35k or so? bout 10k less then the shelby. shelby wouldn't be too happy that a "stock" gt just tore apart their car. granted yes there are the shelby's, roush's, etc. but they're all roughly around the same pwr level. so maybe you should re-do the petition to the "Synister Mustang 7L"
i dont see what renaming the petition would do, hardly a soul is willing to sign it.
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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ford doesnt have the money to throw research into a new engine like a 7L. Why do they use the 4.6 and 5.4? Well its versitle. You can mix and match parts, its a STRONG and DEPENDABLE engine, and its cheap to fix if you have problems.

You want a 7 litre? Well, youll be paying for all the research and develepment costs, and it would take YEARS to even be put into a car. Most people wouldnt buy it anyways. Mustang GT isnt fast enough for you? Well you can get a Shelby GT, Roush (in multiple trims), Steeda, Saleen (in multiple trims), GT500, GT500KR, or a Ford GT.

You cant rival your flagship model and risk the loss of it because a few signatures want a really big engine. Chances are, if you have the money for that, youll go big if you want it anyways.
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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It will never happen!!
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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i dont see what renaming the petition would do, hardly a soul is willing to sign it.
pay attention ive given up on you people!
 
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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if ford can figure out how to do a strong 4.6 4v or a 5.4 2v or 4v engine and keep the car weight down, they don't need to do a 7L engine. All of these nice new high HP engines are great, but how much do the cars weigh....
4,000lbs? (with exception to the vette, and the average production stang isn't supposed to rival the vette).
 
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 05:37 AM
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while I love the idea of a 7L engine I agree with everyone else, it ain't gonna happen. atleast not in the near future with Ford's financial struggles. If you really want a 7L engine in your Mustang your only option really is to swap in a pushrod engine!
 
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 06:07 AM
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Do you want a 2.3l out of my old SVO here it is for free

 
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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Online Petitions don't do sack jhit.
 




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