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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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So I think I want to do HIDs next. Seeing as winter is coming up pretty soon, bad weather and what not and I can't afford a beater this year so it looks like the Mustang will have to endure another winter unfortuneatly. Anyways what is the best HID kit(dual beam) I can get?

I've looked at AMs but does anyone else have them from somewhere else and your experiences from there?

AM has 8k and I've heard the most common is 6k.

I don't want to do my fog lights right now because come spring, I'll have either a 94-98 cobra front bumper or 03/04 cobra front bumper.

My headlights would need a 9007 kit.

How ridiculous is the improvement with HIDs? I have silverstar ultras on now but I want brighter and further.

I'm sure plenty of you guys have HIDs so please give me your feedback, suggestions, best brand/website and what not to get them from.
 
Old Sep 20, 2009 | 10:51 PM
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honestly man, ebay is where mine came from.. i got them from some guy locally but the kits are exactly the same and alot cheaper.. but make sure u go with the bi-xenons.. and yea they are a huge step up from any halogens
 
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 06:49 AM
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They are a big difference in light output. If your interested I sell nice slim ballast HID kits for $85 shipped for low beams kits. And you won't have weird color differences or ballasts that won't fire up like some HID kits that are very cheap.

Also as the color temp goes up from 4,300k you loose light output. But 4300 is a white/yellow and most of us don't want that. 5,000k kits have a nice pure white output with almost the same light output as 4300k and is the best way to go if you ask me. But me personally I don't like blue headlights.

I will have 4300k,5k,6k,8k 9007 kits in stock in a few days. If UPS ever delivers my supplies.
 
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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any experiences with the AM kits? Spike I don't know anything about the slim kits and what not.
 
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spike_africa
Also as the color temp goes up from 4,300k you loose light output.
I remember reading that somewhere, what do you mean lose light output? For some reason that doesn't click with me. I'm thinking why am I paying hundreds for a nice bright light that is supposed to be brighter, whiter, and wider, but you lose light output?

Also please give me some more info on the kits you have. Do you have any dual beams or is that un-needed?

Also, come on there has to be more people on here with HID that can help me out!
 
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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Also please give me some more info on the kits you have. Do you have any dual beams or is that un-needed?
Dual beam is not needed but you loose high beams. Have to be careful with this as you won't pass a state inspection without high beams.
 
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Dual beam is not needed but you loose high beams. Have to be careful with this as you won't pass a state inspection without high beams.
I see. Highs would probably be useful around here though. We don't have inspections but still. Rochester Hills there are so many deer(30min north of detroit ironically) that they have to bring in sharp shooters to take some of them out because its better to have them dead in the woods than dead on the road possibly injuring someone.
 
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mustangman95gt
I see. Highs would probably be useful around here though. We don't have inspections but still. Rochester Hills there are so many deer(30min north of detroit ironically) that they have to bring in sharp shooters to take some of them out because its better to have them dead in the woods than dead on the road possibly injuring someone.
Plus one, i actually hit a deer the other day in my truck..lol
 
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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I would definitely get a dual beam kit, that's the way to go if you ask me. Dustin, why are you only doing the single beam kits?

Anyway, Dustin and I argue about the "best" temp. output all the time.. lol I say 6k is perfect, he likes 5k. You really don't have to worry about losing brightness until you get over 8k, that's where the visibility really begins to decrease.

4300k (White, more of a hologen/amber color) = 3200 Lumens.
5k (White with a very slight amber tinge) = 3150 Lumens.
6k (White with a very slight blue tinge) = 3140 Lumens.
8k (Slightly white, but Mostly blue) = 3100 Lumens.
10k (Very Blue, nearly purple, very annoying) = 2950 Lumens.

Anything under 4300k and anything over 8k will not look good and could potentially get you a ticket. Technically (in most states) HID's are illegal unless they were installed as a factory option in the vehicle. In most cases the popo's will leave you alone as long as it is similar to a standard halogen light.

Also, DO NOT get 55watt HID's under any circumstances. These are WAY too bright and are completely obnoxious. They should only be used off road and I hope you're not taking the mustang through any trails.. lmao

PS. Slim ballast is the way to go, for sure. You can hide the ballast's easier and they don't take up nearly the amount of space that the old school ones did.

Hope all this babble helps.
 
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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I have 6Ks and they're perfect.

Do it.
Do it.
 
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by WNRacing
I would definitely get a dual beam kit, that's the way to go if you ask me. Dustin, why are you only doing the single beam kits?

Anyway, Dustin and I argue about the "best" temp. output all the time.. lol I say 6k is perfect, he likes 5k. You really don't have to worry about losing brightness until you get over 8k, that's where the visibility really begins to decrease.

4300k (White, more of a hologen/amber color) = 3200 Lumens.
5k (White with a very slight amber tinge) = 3150 Lumens.
6k (White with a very slight blue tinge) = 3140 Lumens.
8k (Slightly white, but Mostly blue) = 3100 Lumens.
10k (Very Blue, nearly purple, very annoying) = 2950 Lumens.

Anything under 4300k and anything over 8k will not look good and could potentially get you a ticket. Technically (in most states) HID's are illegal unless they were installed as a factory option in the vehicle. In most cases the popo's will leave you alone as long as it is similar to a standard halogen light.

Also, DO NOT get 55watt HID's under any circumstances. These are WAY too bright and are completely obnoxious. They should only be used off road and I hope you're not taking the mustang through any trails.. lmao

PS. Slim ballast is the way to go, for sure. You can hide the ballast's easier and they don't take up nearly the amount of space that the old school ones did.

Hope all this babble helps.
It did help, now my question is where can I get dual beam 6K non 55watt slim ballast HID.

If you were to chose 8K vs 6K I'm assuming you would take 6? AM doesn't have that nor slims correct?

Where can I find them?

P.S. I'm a guy that when I get stuff done, I want it done right so I don't want any $50 eBay kit with bulm life of 48 hours.(sarcasm). So what is the best company/website I can get some 9007 dual beam slim ballast 6k HID kit?...thats a mouthful.
 
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mustangman95gt
It did help, now my question is where can I get dual beam 6K non 55watt slim ballast HID.

If you were to chose 8K vs 6K I'm assuming you would take 6? AM doesn't have that nor slims correct?

Where can I find them?
Well, if Dustin (spike) isn't selling Dual Beam kits then I can only recommend going with the company that he pointed me to.

www.sharphid.com

Their customer service isn't very good, but the product is. I'm pretty sure that it is just one guy that runs the deal, so they are kind of difficult to get a hold of. I've had their 6k Dual beam kit in my Stratus for probably a little over a year with no problems at all.

Check with Dustin first though, if he has access to a dual beam kit you should try to get them through him.

My personal preference is 6k, I think it is the perfect color, not too white, not too blue and has no amber tint at all.

Also, if you have fog lights, you should consider doing those (single beam) too, to keep the lights an even color. (It just looks better)
 
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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http://sharphid.com/apx35w50whilo.htm

Those would be what we need, correct (for the headlights, that is)? I'm seriously thinking about doing HID's as soon as I get my car back because it is getting darker and darker earlier now and road visibility is crucial around here, especially on the back roads.
 
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyanbi
http://sharphid.com/apx35w50whilo.htm

Those would be what we need, correct (for the headlights, that is)? I'm seriously thinking about doing HID's as soon as I get my car back because it is getting darker and darker earlier now and road visibility is crucial around here, especially on the back roads.
Yep, should be the 9007 hi/lo 35w.

I have those exact lights in my Stratus and they're perfect, they light up road signs like you wouldn't believe.
 
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I have both dual and single beam kits for sale. Site will be up asap. Fixing a few bugs I have with it today.

And like he said when the color temp goes up over 4300k you start loosing light output. over8k is retarded if you ask me, but if you want them I can get them. Though I stock nothing over 8k.

My kits are nice slim ballast setups that are plug and play. All you need to do is zip tie or mount the ballast however you would like. They are small and easy to hide for a clean install, which is how I like it. Trust me you will be very happy with them.
 
Old Sep 22, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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Dustin, how much are your Dual beam kits going to be? I'm probably going to be getting them for the Stang soon too.
 
Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Hey spike how much are your dual beam kits going to cost?

I almost hopped on the sharphid.com dual beam kit and fog for a total of $195.

This may be a stupid question but I assume I should get the fogs 6k as well since I want 6k headlights? That's just what seems uniform to me.

Another question is I'd like to do fogs as well but I have a 94-98 cobra bumper at my house and I was going to put that on or the termi bumper come spring. Do those use 893 as well or different?
 
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Dual beam kits will be $119 for any color, and bulb and free shipping.

I have a coding problem on the site and the cart is not working right now. So I have not released the name for the website yet because I want to make sure it works 100% before I tell anyone. I hope to have it fixed tonight. So give me a bit of time

And you for sure want matching Fogs/Headlights on a car. I have 5k fogs/heads on mine now. Its awesome, so much better then any halogen bulb,even my expensive silver star bulbs I had in there.
 
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I love my 4300k's I would highly recommend them. I do wish I had bought slim ballast dual beams though.

Dustin how long is the harness on your kits?
 
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Spike: Another question is I'd like to do fogs as well but I have a 94-98 cobra bumper at my house and I was going to put that on or the termi bumper come spring. Do those use 893 as well or different?

And single beam for my fogs(if I get them) would be $85? I'm just not sure because I don't want to spend the time and money on HID fogs if I put the cobra bumper and fogs on in the spring unless it uses 893s also.
 
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Looks like the 99-04 uses 899 so I'm not sure if I want to do the fogs. I mean I do want to do them but if I change the bumper in 6 months there would be almost no point.

Now I guess the decision is to change to the cobra bumper or keep it..........and I already have a primed 97 cobra front. This is tough.
 
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They only make 880 fog light kits, which work on any fog light in the 880 rang like the 893 and 899 that the 99-04 GT/cobra uses. So the 880 HID fog light kit will work in either bumper and fog light housing.

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I love my 4300k's I would highly recommend them. I do wish I had bought slim ballast dual beams though.

Dustin how long is the harness on your kits?
There is plenty of length so you can hide the ballast. I don't have my shipment in yet and mine are already mounted or I would measure them for you. I will when a get them here though.
 
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They only make 880 fog light kits, which work on any fog light in the 880 rang like the 893 and 899 that the 99-04 GT/cobra uses. So the 880 HID fog light kit will work in either bumper and fog light housing.



There is plenty of length so you can hide the ballast. I don't have my shipment in yet and mine are already mounted or I would measure them for you. I will when a get them here though.
Ok so if I understand correctly, an 880 kit will work with my stock 95 bumper now(which originally uses 893) and the 880 will work if I change to the termi bumper(which regularly uses 899)?

I've never heard of the before but you are the one selling the kits haha so you should know better than I.

Hurry up and get them in damnit!
 
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Spike - will you be posting information on your products and website in the For Sale or Lounge area once everything is up and running, I am very interested in your items.
 
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There is plenty of length so you can hide the ballast. I don't have my shipment in yet and mine are already mounted or I would measure them for you. I will when a get them here though.
Cool I hid my ballasts behind my bumper and the VVME harness just barely reached.
 
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Ok so if I understand correctly, an 880 kit will work with my stock 95 bumper now(which originally uses 893) and the 880 will work if I change to the termi bumper(which regularly uses 899)?

I've never heard of the before but you are the one selling the kits haha so you should know better than I.

Hurry up and get them in damnit!
I know, apparently my shipment was lost and sent back to them. So they had to resend them again to me. I have not even gotten a tracking number yet. So I would hope in 7 days or less they will be here. I promise

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Spike - will you be posting information on your products and website in the For Sale or Lounge area once everything is up and running, I am very interested in your items.
Yeah I will post the site link once its totally running and spell checked and good to go. I don't want to let everyone know the site name till I know it works perfectly. And I just started a new full time job, so I'm trying to get it done as fast as I can.

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Cool I hid my ballasts behind my bumper and the VVME harness just barely reached.
Well I had enough for my fogs to mount the ballast on the bumper support and still had a good 5-6" of wire to zip tie out of the way. So you should have no problem hiding them out of sight. Which is how it should be done if you ask me.
 
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Let us know we're all interested
 
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Originally Posted by Kyanbi
Let us know we're all interested
**** yeah, me too!

Dustin, will you be selling fog kits, too? I need the dual beams and the fogs. I'm not driving around with lights that don't match. I will definitely be one of your first customers, as HID lights are one thing I've always wanted, but just didn't want to spend big bucks on. So, I've been putting it off.

Another question, why are the AM kits so expensive? What is the difference between their kit and the cheaper kits?
 
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Because theirs come in a metal case, lol. I have no idea they just must use an expensive supplier.

I carry the 880HID kits which pretty much covers every mustang with fog lights. Minus you 05+ cars which use a different bulb, and I have you covered. What color are you looking for anyhow?
 
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Because theirs come in a metal case, lol. I have no idea they just must use an expensive supplier.

I carry the 880HID kits which pretty much covers every mustang with fog lights. Minus you 05+ cars which use a different bulb, and I have you covered. What color are you looking for anyhow?
I think I'm going to go with 5000K. I want straight white. I don't want any blue tinge.
 



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