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krenogin 01-07-2009 11:30 PM

NEW HID THREAD!!
 
Okay, ive decided on getting them. Wheres the best place for around 100 bucks to get dual bi xenon kit? Im sooo iffy and scared that the kits i get other than from AM (which is too expensive) will have alot of cobbling! i want everything to plug together,, i dont want to run leads to my battery or anything,, just plug old light power into a ballast, then the ballast into the HID bulb! So i need help finding a trustworthy source! thanks guys!

WNRacing 01-08-2009 06:58 AM

I don't think such a thing exists, if you want bi-xenon you'll have to run leads to your battery as far as I know. Might be wrong because mine still haven't gotten here yet, but I'm pretty sure that's how it is.

PColav6 01-08-2009 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 375560)
I don't think such a thing exists, if you want bi-xenon you'll have to run leads to your battery as far as I know. Might be wrong because mine still haven't gotten here yet, but I'm pretty sure that's how it is.

:boink: You're going to have to connect it to the battery somehow,just like almost every other electrical mod.They aren't really just plug and play. It's more like.. take out (battery) hide (ballast and relay) plug in and tape (bulbs into housings) sort and route (wires for passenger light through the radiator shroud) plug & tape again, then plug in all of the wiring of the bulbs to the harness, tape off your OEM passenger headlight wiring connector with electrical tape or something (it's not used with HIDs), then attach to the battery. It's really easy once you lay everything out and understand what goes where, but you will want to take out your battery so you can hide both the big relay box and the driver's side ballast on the sides of the engine bay.

08mustang_gt 01-08-2009 03:18 PM

HIDs for under $100 bucks don't exist lol. The cheapest kits I've seen are the ones on AM. You're never going to find a GOOD set of HID's that are plug-and-play....trust me I've tried everywhere.

Switch 01-08-2009 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by 08mustang_gt (Post 375629)
HIDs for $100 bucks don't exist lol. The cheapest kits I've seen are the ones on AM. You're never going to find a GOOD set of HID's that are plug-and-play....trust me I've tried everywhere.

Mine were $80 from ebay, plug and play. They're single beam so they don't have high beams, but they've been working perfectly fine for me for over a year now.

WNRacing 01-08-2009 04:43 PM

http://www.sharphid.com/

I can't vouch for the quality just yet because I haven't gotten them in yet, but I got two sets, one 5k for my dad's truck and 6k for my car. Both Bi-Xenon, and they were $140/ea. Lifetime warranty on all parts. The kits come with super-thin ballasts, bulbs and the harness.

All I know is that so long as the product is good this is the best deal on HID's, hands down. I love AM, but the best price I could get from them was something like $240 and they only carry 8k..

I've eMailed John a couple of times and so far his response have been super-quick (within 30 minutes) and he seems like a good guy. If you want to wait I can give a better review of the seller in a week or so.

WNRacing 01-08-2009 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Switch (Post 375630)
Mine were $80 from ebay, plug and play. They're single beam so they don't have high beams, but they've been working perfectly fine for me for over a year now.

There are plug and play single beam kits, the bi-xenon's are quite a bit more complex and require the power harness for various reasons. The main reason is to prevent power surge, that is the most common reason for HID failure. Example: Turning the headlights on before you start the car, when you start the car it reduces the wattage then when the alternator starts pumping juice it sends a higher amount of power to the ballasts and can blow out the "bulb" housing.

I've been studying the hell out of these things over the last couple of weeks trying to decide what direction to go.. As far as I can tell, the better kits and the better bang for your $$ are the bi-xenon kits, you get the standard HID low beam as well as the added feature of the high beam when you really need alot of light. They require just a bit more work to run the positive and negative leads to the battery, but in the long run they should last even longer and have less chance of a burn out.

Switch 01-08-2009 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 375647)
There are plug and play single beam kits, the bi-xenon's are quite a bit more complex and require the power harness for various reasons.

Right. I never said they were dual beam kits. I was just arguing that contrary to the post above mine that said this:


HIDs for $100 bucks don't exist lol.
that HID kits do in fact exist for under $100.

krenogin 01-08-2009 05:40 PM

Hmm, well post back when you get that kit in. Im really interested in finding me some good HID's for around that price.. becuz i dont know if one beam would suffice. But tell me how they do!

08mustang_gt 01-08-2009 05:49 PM

Lol ok Switch he's asking for bi-xenon so I answered him in reference to bi-xenon. Excuse me, next time I'll specifically say for bi-xenon.

Bi-xenon's are the safest and most efficient way to go. The leads are a pain to run, but if you're not willing to get a little dirty than don't worry about it. It can't hurt the battery more than your regular headlights do, it's actually BETTER for your car. If you're worried about it just make sure you run everything clean, strap everything down (zip-ties are your friend) and put a fuse in it (like a fuse you'd use for a huge ass stereo amp).

You can get anything cheap lol, but quality falls too. It's the business of retail. When the cheap crap quits working I doubt you'll get any customer support like you would with Sharp....

WNRacing 01-08-2009 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by krenogin (Post 375665)
Hmm, well post back when you get that kit in. Im really interested in finding me some good HID's for around that price.. becuz i dont know if one beam would suffice. But tell me how they do!

Finally got my tracking number, they should be here by some time next week. :)

krenogin 01-08-2009 09:54 PM

how long had u been waiting for them anyways? when did u place the order?

WNRacing 01-09-2009 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by krenogin (Post 375731)
how long had u been waiting for them anyways? when did u place the order?

I ordered them last Thursday, he specifically listed that the shipping was delayed on the home page so it wasn't any big deal.

krenogin 01-13-2009 01:06 PM

i found some HID kits on amazon... they only have like one review.. they are 140. dunno.. still waiting on WNRacing to tell me how his kits going.. my headlights i got off of ebay not too long ago (the smoked ones for 100$) came with xenons.. but they sucked becuz high and low was the same,, no difference.. im figuring these cheap HID kits will do the same in a bi setup.

krenogin 01-14-2009 01:18 PM

geting impacient.. and not trusting of HID kits... Should i just go with silvania silverstars? or something just change the bulbs? please help.

WNRacing 01-14-2009 08:10 PM

Well I got them in this afternoon and installed them tonight. Install was really easy, but after I got them installed I realized that there was no high-beam.. :mad:

I just emailed John to see what I needed to do, so we'll see.. So far though they are working great and look fantastic.

WNRacing 01-14-2009 08:33 PM

Here are some quick snap shots..

Sylvania Silverstar's.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...g/CIMG4041.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../oldlights.jpg



Xenon's

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...g/CIMG4047.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...g/CIMG4051.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...g/CIMG4052.jpg


I'll try to get some better shots from inside the car tomorrow.

krenogin 01-14-2009 09:04 PM

hmm they look wicked,, is it worth the upgrade? is your single beams u have right now just as good as ur old high beams? And should i either go HID or just use silverstars? tell me your honest input on all this. i have bad night vision,, very bad, mainly becuz all the wrecked cars around here have HORRIBLE headlight adjustment. so they have one headlight brighting me generally.

WNRacing 01-14-2009 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by krenogin (Post 376750)
hmm they look wicked,, is it worth the upgrade? is your single beams u have right now just as good as ur old high beams? And should i either go HID or just use silverstars? tell me your honest input on all this. i have bad night vision,, very bad, mainly becuz all the wrecked cars around here have HORRIBLE headlight adjustment. so they have one headlight brighting me generally.

Well, as you can see by the before & afters the HID's are a vast improvement over the Silverstars I had before. The low beam Xenon's offer way better visibility, mainly because of the temperature of light that they produce.

If money is an issue then the Silverstars without a doubt are the best halogen headlights available, but honestly these HID's are amazing. Just as good as my dad's mini cooper.

I can tell you this. I'll never have another car with halogen headlights again if I can help it.

BTW: The photos I took were with the exact same camera settings, I didn't do anything to the pics other than resize them.

I also have to adjust my drivers side headlight, it's angled down just about 1/4" too low, so the pics don't exactly look right.

krenogin 01-14-2009 11:43 PM

and was the whole setup plug and play? or did it take any modification?

WNRacing 01-15-2009 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by krenogin (Post 376764)
and was the whole setup plug and play? or did it take any modification?

No real modifications. I had to cut the retainers (the little screw on thing that holds the bulb on the back of the headlight) to get it to fit around the bulb, but other than that it was pretty simple..

Truthfully, if you're scared of fitment, etc. you may just be better off to buy the AM HID's.. They're more expensive, but supposed to be specifically made for Mustangs.. How mechanically inclinded are you?

krenogin 01-15-2009 02:02 PM

I'm very mechanically inclined. I did my whole sound system, the box was already in the car, i did my security system, its a "secure guard" I build computers haha. i just dont like the idea of something feeling cobbled. its like putting wires together with black tape dont work for me, i have to use shrink tubing. And my old halo's killed me. I had to wire them into the parking light harness, and it felt VERYY cobbled. And i get the "my car feels like its gonna fall apart or mess up" feeling.

WNRacing 01-17-2009 03:02 PM

So, after dicking around for about 20 minutes I finally fixed the problem. The harness that came with the kit had a couple of wires backwards, apparently it's pretty common with HID kits because they make them as universal as they can to work with as many cars as possible.

The solution was pretty simple, just moved the connecting wires (in the aftermarket harness) from the factory plug around a few times until I found the correct poles. So now I have full functionality, low and high beams just like it should be. The funny thing is I had been driving around with the high beams on! haha! Wierd thing is though that I never got flashed once..

I'll try to get a couple of pics later tonight with the final outcome, but I'm pretty satisfied now. :)

Ghostalker 01-17-2009 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 377251)
I'll try to get a couple of pics later tonight with the final outcome, but I'm pretty satisfied now. :)

Excellent to hear, gotta love the HIDs! I would be pretty pissed if my high beams didn't work correctly, after paying the extra for them.
I would also always install HIDs on my cars if they did not come with them originally. Or if they did, throw them in the fogs.

WNRacing 01-17-2009 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by Ghostalker (Post 377281)
Excellent to hear, gotta love the HIDs! I would be pretty pissed if my high beams didn't work correctly, after paying the extra for them.
I would also always install HIDs on my cars if they did not come with them originally. Or if they did, throw them in the fogs.

Yeah, I really loved them in my Dad's Cooper S the vibrant white just makes everything so much easier to see.

With that said... I thought it was very strange that I had been driving around for two days with a set of 6k HID's producing the High-beam and never once got flashed. I tend to drive on pretty dark highways around here on my normal commute. Anyway, now that I've got them working correctly I hate to say it, but I'm less than impressed with the outcome.. So much so that I have Emailed John @ SharpHID to ask him for an RMA. I can't say truthfully if it's the kit or if it's the housing or what, but they don't even compare with my dad's cooper and it has reflector housings just like my car.

I want to say this, though. John @ Sharp has been a good guy to deal with, not necessarily the most helpful with the installation, but so far his customer service has been quite good. I don't want everyone to think that he has an inferior product, it may just be that they don't work well in my car, who knows..

:(

spike_africa 01-18-2009 08:56 AM

What are you not impressed with the lighting or what?

WNRacing 01-18-2009 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by spike_africa (Post 377395)
What are you not impressed with the lighting or what?

They honestly don't seem any brighter to me, the only difference is the whiter light...

Ghostalker 01-18-2009 02:20 PM

Maybe the housings are just not directing the light narrow enough... try fiddling around with the alignment, see if raising them just a tad helps you out. Perhaps park on the end of a dark dead end and mess around for the maximum distance. Then meter that against the number of flashes you get from other drivers until you are happy.
With mine I can see all sorts of stuff much further out in front of me, and I love the reflective highway signs lit up like neon billboards a quarter mile out.

PColav6 01-18-2009 02:27 PM

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Sorry to hear that man, the light output on my HIDs with the reflective housings and smoked lenses is amazing
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krenogin 01-18-2009 03:09 PM

i just bought silverstars,, didnt find much of an improvement,, its a prettier and less straining color.. BUT id say they are alot better in rain n stuff as compared to oem.. HID's just too expensive to get a good kit.


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