poorboys supercharger
saw this and laughed:p
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2426845/El...ger-air-intake i guess it could do some good, better than just a cold air intake alone. but you still would get laughed at by any serious car guy. |
lol..... what will they think of next
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Hey, if it adds boost and you can add more fuel, who cares how you do it?
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Originally Posted by j_gutta870
(Post 424889)
lol..... what will they think of next
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im suprised nobody has created a real high powered electric supercharger... the idea is pretty sound, you would probably need to beef the electrical system, but it shuold be efficient as hell, superchargers are not very effecient, it bogs you down 75-100HP to spin the fan, but boosts you up 175-200 to make up for it.
if it was electric, it would be far more efficient. |
Originally Posted by JackThe Ripper
(Post 424905)
im suprised nobody has created a real high powered electric supercharger... the idea is pretty sound, you would probably need to beef the electrical system, but it shuold be efficient as hell, superchargers are not very effecient, it bogs you down 75-100HP to spin the fan, but boosts you up 175-200 to make up for it.
if it was electric, it would be far more efficient. |
they sell these things on ebay for like 50 dollars
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo...Q5fAccessories |
If would be interesting to dyno one of these on a stang. Just think....boost only when you want it, but you need to find a way to add fuel properly.
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Originally Posted by JackThe Ripper
(Post 424905)
im suprised nobody has created a real high powered electric supercharger... the idea is pretty sound, you would probably need to beef the electrical system, but it shuold be efficient as hell, superchargers are not very effecient, it bogs you down 75-100HP to spin the fan, but boosts you up 175-200 to make up for it.
if it was electric, it would be far more efficient. |
My friend had one of these on his Plymouth Breeze. It actually worked a little, quite the noticeable difference. Huge sound difference, and rpm's from mid/low to mid/high had a slightly noticeable torque increase. No changes to fuel delivery.
On the downside, his car did not have a MAF sensor. So a few months later, the engine went ca-put. The engine was probably running extra lean, and he had very low oil pressure. Maybe if these things ran at a much higher rpm to create some significant boost, they would be useful. |
http://image.turbomagazine.com/f/857...knight02_z.jpg
It was an ok idea but still requires a lot and doesn't give much back for it. |
there was a video of guys on a dyno with a leaf blower making hp gains and thats not even a closed system so there is some truth to it
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if you can generate positive manifold pressure then yeah you'll make more power but the power required to run a compressor to any useful boost value is quite high. On average you'll need 55-65hp of input energy into the compressor to run 8psi on a stock head/cam car like our SOHC 4.6's and 5.4's. If you want more air it'll take more power to the compressor. Figure around 90hp for the compressor to net out 1 atmosphere of positive manifold pressure. You know how big a 90hp electric motor is?
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Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
(Post 425012)
if you can generate positive manifold pressure then yeah you'll make more power but the power required to run a compressor to any useful boost value is quite high. On average you'll need 55-65hp of input energy into the compressor to run 8psi on a stock head/cam car like our SOHC 4.6's and 5.4's. If you want more air it'll take more power to the compressor. Figure around 90hp for the compressor to net out 1 atmosphere of positive manifold pressure. You know how big a 90hp electric motor is?
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now this is what im talking about... forcing air in....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SlkWokAm6s lol and this one too...LMAO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlKKwS0c4KM&NR=1 |
Well someone finally put one on a dyno http://videos.streetfire.net/video/L...-Dyno_7514.htm :o
I love the method they used to inject nitrous too :rolleyes: |
Yeah thats the one I was talking about
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Originally Posted by whitestang04
(Post 425024)
Well someone finally put one on a dyno http://videos.streetfire.net/video/L...-Dyno_7514.htm :o
I love the method they used to inject nitrous too :rolleyes: |
Its a bunch of crap. They can't push enough air to actually make boost.
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Originally Posted by j_gutta870
(Post 424889)
lol..... what will they think of next
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No lie i know a guy that put it on his car for S&Gs and it went almost a secound slower and lost MPH....
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^ Because half of them can't spin the fan fast enough to give you the air you need at high rpms lol!
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some day technology will advance enough and there will be a working electric S/C.
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