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Old 03-27-2007 | 11:47 AM
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Thumbs up $1327 00-04 GT Vortech Kit anyone can do

This is to show everyone that it doesnt take a ton of money to have a nice S/C on their mustang. Even if you dont have an 00-04 you can still get it done just as cheap. I have just quoted prices for what I did with my car. Search through http://www.superchargersonline.com and you can find prices for different makes and models. I do not work for them but they just have good service and they helped me build my kit.

This is a list of parts youll need to buy.

Vortech Bracket Assembly $289
http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...er=V4FL111-031
includes:
3/8-16 x 1-3/4" HXHD G8
3/8" AN960 Flat Washers
Belt, K061080-Gatesd Saleen
Mach, 2000 GT Mtg. Brkt
8mm x 1.25 x 65 Soc
8mm x1.25 x 140 HXH
5/16 AN-Washer
6mm x 1.0 x 50mm HXHD Zinc
8mm x 1.25 x 25 HXHD
Radiator Pipe-Stnlss
#24 Gold Seal Hose C
Adel Clamp, 3/4' ID
10-24 x 1/2 Soc HD Cap, Zinc Plt
#10 Flat Washer
10mm x 1.50 x 140 Hex Head
10mm Washer, Zinc Plated
10mm x 1.5 x 65 Bolt, SHCS
#8 x 3/4 Sheet Metal
2000 2V Idler Ply Assy.
Idler Plt Assy, 2V GEN3
Idler Pulley, 6Rib 3" Flangd
Dust Cover (Idler Pulley)
12mm x 1.75 x 20mm Pld
Spacer, Idler Plate 2V G3
3/8-16 x G8 HXHD
1/4 SAE Washer, Pltd
M8 x 1.25 x 140 Bolt

Vortech Discharge Assembly $189
http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...er=V4FH112-020
includes:
Discharge Tube
3" x 2" Sleeve
2-3/4" x 2" Sleeve
#44 Hose Clamps
#48 Hose Clamps
#16 Hose Clamps
Bypass Valve
1" x 3.5" Heater Hose
1" x 13.5" Heater Hose
5/32" x 52" Vacuum Line
5/32" TEE
1" Hose Union
1" x 90 Degree Rubber Elbow

Vortech Air Intake Assembly $204
http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...er=V4FH112-010
includes:
90 Degree Intake Elbow
MAF Meter Bracket Assembly
#56 Hose Clamps
3-1/2" x 2" Sleeve
3-1/2" x 9" Flex Hose
#52 Hose Clamps
Air Filter
1/4-20 x 3/4" SHCS
1/4-20 Nylock Nuts
1/4"SAE Washers
Inlet Elbow
3/4" NPT x 1" Hose Fitting
5/8" x 48" Hose
3/4" x 27" Hose
7/16" Rubber Grommet
5/8" Barb

Vortech Oil Feed Assembly $22
http://www.superchargersonline.com/p..._feed_assembly
includes:
1/4" x 26" Oil Feed Hose
.525 Crimp Ferrules
#4 Swivel x 1/4" Hose Barb Fitting
1/8" NPT -4 x 45 Degree male Elbow
1/4" NPT Street TEE
1/4" NPT x -4 90 Degree Fitting
-4 Flare to 1/4 NPT

Vortech Oil Drain Assembly $23
http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...drain_assembly
inlcudes:
1/2" x 14" Oil Drain Hose
#8 Stainless Hose Clamps
90 Degree 1/2" Alum. Tube
Tube Nut
Male Connector

Vortech Bracket Assembly: $289
Vortech Discharge Assembly: $189
Vortech Air Intake Assembly: $204
Vortech Oil Feed Assembly: $22
Vortech Oil Drain Assembly: $23
Total: $727 before tax/shipping

That is cost for EVERY single item you need to put a Vortech S, SQ, or T trim on your 2000-2004 Mustang GT. Only thing left to buy is the head unit. They are fairly easy to find if you search Ebay, SVTperformance.com, or Corral.net . A used S-trim sells between $400-800 depending on assumed mileage and condition. I bought mine for $700 with discharge pipe and intake. If you want a new head unit they cost $1849 for a brand new satin V-1 s-trim. A used head unit WILL be alot cheaper and perform just as well. Even if the unit needs a rebuild, the cost is about $350 from vortech or you can find some performance shops that can do it for around $100. Mine was in great condition when I picked it up from a guy on Ebay. Even bieng a 6 year old head unit it had no shaft play and seems to be in perfect condition.

If you find a head unit for $600, add the cost of the hardware ($727) and this comes out to $1327 for a COMPLETE vortech s-trim setup every part new but the head unit and fuel injectors. Even if you paid say $800 it would just come out to $1527 before tax and shipping.

Install takes a full days work to get it done right. Anyone with general knowledge of removing and installing bolts on the front of the timing cover, removing the belt, using a pipe tap, and swapping non-pressed pullies can perform this install.

Heres the install manual: http://www.vortecheng.com/pdf/manuals/4FH4FL218im.pdf

The result is between 350-370whp/ 360-390wtq on 8psi non intercooled. Most run between 13.20s@109 - 12.40s @112 in the 1/4 on street tires depending upon skill. Enjoy the boost!
 
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Old 03-27-2007 | 12:43 PM
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Tony @ SuperchargersOnline is a good dude.
 
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Old 03-27-2007 | 12:56 PM
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While this is a great option, you are still missing injectors, fuel pump, maf and a tune. Granted, I had less then $1,500 in my kit TOTAL when I was done, but I got a great deal on a lot of the parts up front.
 
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Old 03-27-2007 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mcmmotorsports
While this is a great option, you are still missing injectors, fuel pump, maf and a tune. Granted, I had less then $1,500 in my kit TOTAL when I was done, but I got a great deal on a lot of the parts up front.
Piecing things together is the way to go if you have the time and the patience.

Although you could buy a $500 nitrous kit and get the same power and still run mid-12's. Alot cheaper...
 
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Old 03-27-2007 | 04:06 PM
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With tons more tourqe. I know you can get a vortec setup going on the cheap, thats whats so great about those kits is the vast majority of parts and peice you can find for them.
 
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Old 03-27-2007 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mug11
Piecing things together is the way to go if you have the time and the patience.

Although you could buy a $500 nitrous kit and get the same power and still run mid-12's. Alot cheaper...
Yes but $30 bucks to fill the bottle gets expensive if you use it alot. My car seemed to be faster on the low end with 100 shot. The blower is just a tad faster on the top end. It doesnt want to stop pulling. Im not downing n20 but im glad I went ahead and dropped the cash for it. I paid for it, put it on, worked out the bugs, and now its been awhile and I forgot about where the money went. Plus, I have a kit on my car that COULD sell for $2k on ebay while my n20 kit would sell for so cheap id be glad to get $500 for it.
 
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Old 03-27-2007 | 09:36 PM
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Great post Jeradan.

As someone who has had both nitrous AND a blower on the same car, blowers are much better. However, if you are a serious drag racer, I think nitrous is very well suited.
 
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Old 04-12-2007 | 09:36 AM
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Very good information, that saves $1000 off the cost of a comparable tuner kit.

Good to know.

As a side argument, if you assume a Supercharger kit costs $2200, and a Nitrous kit costs $1000 (lots of add ons) - $1200 / $30 (per fill) = 40 bottles before you match the cost - thats almost a whole year @ a bottle a week.
 
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Old 04-13-2007 | 05:52 PM
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For the other parts (assuming 4.6L 2v):

90mm Lightning MAF: $135
42lbs/hr Ford Racing Fuel Injectors: $475
Vortech 255lph Fuel Pump: $194
Diabosport/SCT Tuner: $399

That's another $1200. That's brand new prices. You could find parts for cheaper. A quick look at some other sites and found injectors for $375.
 
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Old 04-15-2007 | 08:51 AM
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Lightning MAF's can be found at buyfordracing.com for 79 bucks brand new. Also, dont use a 255 fuel pump, use a Focus or Ford GT pump instead.

AND PAY VERY GOOD MONEY FOR YOUR TUNE!
 
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Old 04-16-2007 | 08:40 AM
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I got my lightning MAF brand new for $75 and found the injectors used for $100.
 
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Old 04-16-2007 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by madmatt
Lightning MAF's can be found at buyfordracing.com for 79 bucks brand new. Also, dont use a 255 fuel pump, use a Focus or Ford GT pump instead.

AND PAY VERY GOOD MONEY FOR YOUR TUNE!
I know. I got the above prices from Modular Power House.
 
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Old 04-19-2007 | 11:51 AM
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2 Questions...

1) Will that mounting kit you show fit on a 96-98 or not? I'm having issues finding a kit for 96-98GT's on the site besides http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...er=V4FH100-002

2) Is this for mounting Reverse rotation or standard and straight or curved discharge? I'd assume straight discharge (no intercooler) but I'm not sure.
 
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Old 04-25-2007 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dusstbuster
2 Questions...

1) Will that mounting kit you show fit on a 96-98 or not? I'm having issues finding a kit for 96-98GT's on the site besides http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...er=V4FH100-002

2) Is this for mounting Reverse rotation or standard and straight or curved discharge? I'd assume straight discharge (no intercooler) but I'm not sure.
1) The bracket assembly I show fits an 00-04 GT. The kit for the 96-99 cars is $100 cheaper! Yes thats the right link. But you dont want to buy the whole "Mounting Kit" for some reason the price of those is ALOT more than if you were to buy the parts seperate through the "accesories" section.

2) Impeller faces the front and its straight discharge. This would be for a non-intercooled kit. Adding an A/A intercooler would cost $250-400 DIY or Paxton sells a kit for $1300
 
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Old 05-07-2007 | 05:40 PM
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Are all the headunits the same as far as matching them to a car? Basically you just need to get the bracket that fits your year and car and you can use any Vortech head unit. Is this correct?
 
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Old 05-15-2007 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 00blkstanggt
Are all the headunits the same as far as matching them to a car? Basically you just need to get the bracket that fits your year and car and you can use any Vortech head unit. Is this correct?
yes that is correct. All S, SQ, and T-trims with stright discharge will bolt up to the bracket.
 
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Old 08-10-2007 | 01:28 AM
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would a hypertech programmer work for the settup of the supercharger? Im not really sure if it makes a difference what programmer? Thanks...
 
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Old 08-10-2007 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sidekicksurfer
would a hypertech programmer work for the settup of the supercharger? Im not really sure if it makes a difference what programmer? Thanks...
most hypertechs do nothing more than add timing and subtract fuel. so, no, that would be very bad for a supercharger. best thing to do is grab a SCT chip or progammer and get a base supercharger tune, till you can get it dyno tuned.
 
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Old 08-10-2007 | 07:07 AM
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I was looking for this post a while back.
 
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Old 08-10-2007 | 02:02 PM
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For the settup do you really need the vortech air intake assembly?? If im not confused could I get a powerpipe instead?
 
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Old 08-10-2007 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sidekicksurfer
For the settup do you really need the vortech air intake assembly?? If im not confused could I get a powerpipe instead?
Go with a powerpipe if you can. Its a little more $$$ tho and youll need to order a MAF bracket with filter.....
 
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Old 08-10-2007 | 02:25 PM
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any suggestions where to order the maf bracket w/ filter?
 
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Old 08-10-2007 | 08:19 PM
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superchargersonline.com has all the parts. If your using a lightning MAF then youll need to order the bracket specific to that one....heres the link for the bracket....http://www.superchargersonline.com/p...er=V4FR110-050
Just call them to find the right sized filter. Its not listed on the site....
 
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Old 08-12-2007 | 07:12 PM
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You do not need the MAF bracket if you're using a p/p...
 
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Old 08-12-2007 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CompOrngGT
You do not need the MAF bracket if you're using a p/p...
You COULD run it without one but the bracket keeps everything supported by attatching to the fender by 2 bolts. Any other way and you have the powerpipe moving around and possibly slipping off the supercharger right where the rubber elbow meets the impeller....
 
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Old 08-13-2007 | 01:09 AM
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Whats the most boost you can run with an s-trim charger? With intercooling of course in mind. Also any suggestions for a do it yourself way to intercool the charger? I'm gonna have to intercool it so knowing that would it not be such a good idea for a powerpipe?
 
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Old 08-13-2007 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sidekicksurfer
Whats the most boost you can run with an s-trim charger? With intercooling of course in mind. Also any suggestions for a do it yourself way to intercool the charger? I'm gonna have to intercool it so knowing that would it not be such a good idea for a powerpipe?
The most boost people normally see on stock heads/cams/and exhaust is 17psi. If you get ported heads, cams, and longtubes it will lower that amount by a bit. The best DIY kit is found here----->http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...spagenameZWDVW
Thats the easiest way and its just $299...be sure to mount it BEHIND the bumper support. Thats the best way. I have mine mounted inside the bumper support but I will end up moving it sometime. Its hella hard to get the pipes routed around the foglights....I am running a powerpipe and intercooler, theres no reason not to....
 
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Old 08-14-2007 | 01:43 AM
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ok so if you get the do it yourself intercooler do you still need to purchase the discharge assembly for the vortech charger? Or could you save money and buy the little things it might need and if so do you know where and what specific parts I would need? Or would I just still be better off purchaseing the discharge package? Thanks..
 
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Old 08-14-2007 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jeredan2003
You COULD run it without one but the bracket keeps everything supported by attatching to the fender by 2 bolts. Any other way and you have the powerpipe moving around and possibly slipping off the supercharger right where the rubber elbow meets the impeller....
well, I tried using the bracket, and had better luck w/o it.
 
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Originally Posted by jeredan2003
The most boost people normally see on stock heads/cams/and exhaust is 17psi. If you get ported heads, cams, and longtubes it will lower that amount by a bit. The best DIY kit is found here----->http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...spagenameZWDVW
Thats the easiest way and its just $299...be sure to mount it BEHIND the bumper support. Thats the best way. I have mine mounted inside the bumper support but I will end up moving it sometime. Its hella hard to get the pipes routed around the foglights....I am running a powerpipe and intercooler, theres no reason not to....

good find! that looks like a decent kit... I might just pick one up.
 



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