Kenny Bell 2.2L Question
 

I was wondering if i could put a 2.2L on my stock Mustang GT and run 8lbs. of boost until i get the internals? Or should i just go with a cam, heads and other goodies?

Yes, you can do that. Just make sure you get it dyno tuned by a good shop. But 8lbs is fine on stock internals.

Im moving this to our Power Adder section.

Oh, i'm sorry for posting it in the wrong spot. Thanks though, how much higher boost could i go if i wanted to?

Its not the boost its the hp you make the stock short block is only safe for around 400-450rwhp thats it. And with a 2.2L and some exhaust work its gonna make alot of power even at 8psi.

Well, i have an x-pipe and a cat back and a JLT CAI, with the 8 lbs. of boost, what should i be looking at as for rwhp?

You can detune the car to keep it under 400rwhp. A good shop wont push the limits.

So would you spend the money on the KB or would you rather gets cams and internals and other shit and save the KB for next winter?

kb now so if you blow the engine you have a reason to do the internals..lol im just messing. better bang for the buck is the KB. replacing the internals and cams/heads would net you about a 50hp gain (depending on how agressive you get).

once you get the KB, start saving for internals, then once the internals are installed the sky is the limit for the engine. dont forget about the rear and tranny

Yeah, at 8 lbs., i should be around 380 at the wheels, right? Or is that way too high?

Who cares about bang for the buck when it comes to internals or a power adder first. I say always go with a power adder first. Get the car tuned once, itll be easier to remove the engine before the blower is on there. Plus, you dont have to wait to up the power. As long as you have a good fuel system, then you're good to go.

I say do cams, heads, short block, and fuel system first. Then slap the KB on there and push 500- 600rwhp.

First, PureStang, i like the signature you have there. Very Nice. Second, If i buy the KB and then the engine blows, can't i just do all the internals and stuff then and it would be easier, right?

Is there any paticular reason your going with a KB? Is it just the name you like? (KB being popular etc) or do you just like Positive displacement Blowers?

btw i only see a 2.1l kit for the 99-04 2v on the KB website. and its ~$5,000!!!!(for the Intercooled kit) before shipping

thats a LOT of money for boost . .

Keep in mind the shop you buy it from must install it.

Why would it be easier to install the KB, then potentially blow the engine, then get it built?

It would be easier to get everything set up correctly BEFORE the blower IMO.

why would it be easyer to install nitrous, then potentially blow the engine, then get it built?

Sometimes you cant have everything at the same time. Lifes about trade-offs!

8psi ~ 380whp isnt goning to kill your 2v . . enless the tune is bad

The 2.2L kit for the Gt has been upgraded to the new Big Bore 2.6L. Plus if I'm not mistaking, you will need a different hood to clear the blower. Like a cowl hood or a Cobra R one.

Right, i saw that too. I would get a new hood. Most likely the COBRA R. I like the KB's. It would be that or a Whipple. I would do the lower Liter KB but i want to go with a higher boost later on and i don't want to get the lower and then buy the Big Bore one later down the line. 03Mustang GT, i know what you are thinking and that's what i was thinking myself. You just can't go woring with a Whine like a SC coming at you.

Ever heard a turbo car spool at your window? :worship2:


but if your all about Positive displacement blowers i guess it works for you.

Yeah, they add about, what, 50 whp to the front wheels or something?

ahh your one of those guys, 'nuff said.

What "guys" are you talking about?

the dudes that get superchargers because they think turbos are for imports or that for some reason a supercharger is more manly or more Muscly Car-like then Turbochargers.

I assume as much because you /drool over the sound of a Blower whine but bawk at the thought of a Turbo spool being anything more then ricey sounding


EDIT:

But its besides the point i dont want to hijack your thread. To try to get back on topic Ill just say this.

I vote for getting the blower before the built engine. It sucks when you have big dreams of big horsepower but it takes forever (what sometimes happends when you want to do everything at once)

No, i just forgot about the Turbos. I know the turbos are freaking badass but i've just always wanted a blower. That's all. I used to think Turbos were for Ricers but that was a long time ago. Trust me, i'm not one of " those guys ".

I think you mean to the rear wheels, and I believe they have the potential to add alot more than that.... lol

I personally don't think I'd ever want a Turbo or TT setup. I just really have never like the sound.. It's kind of annoying, but Im sure the same thing can be said for a Blower..

Yeah, I know what you're going to say T_B 'it's not about the sound, it's about the gains' but to me gains mean squat if your car annoys the shit out of you, lol!

[QUOTE=wnracing;229893]I think you mean to the rear wheels, and I believe they have the potential to add alot more than that.... lol

No, i ment front as a joke. I know how much they can make.

have you ever felt a turbo car's power come on? (in anything more then a stock turbo car)

You quickly stop thinking about the sound.

I agree. When the turbo kicks in, it's unreal. Also though with a SC, the tourqe is crazy when it kicks you back in your seat.

lol, ignorant people talking about something they don't/won't ever have!

Some people get pretty blunt here

I am the ignorant one?

Generally with the positive displacement blower the tq will come faster, but a turbo still makes more tq overall

Although i have to say, the one sweet thing about blowers is that they are awsome to launch. Launching a turbo car (expecually a manual turbo car) is not easy. With the blower as soon as you have the RPM's you have the Power.

Man, im not saying anything bad about a turbo. I've driven both Turbo, and SC, and I prefer SC.. Plain and simple lol.

Yeah and i think i prefer a SC myself. But i also want a KB or a Whipple. I just can't stand the procharger or vortec ones for some reason. I don't have anything really against them, it just looks weird how they are set up in the engine bay.

one thing i cant argue, KB's look badass in the engine bay.

Yeah, but what would you prefer a polished or a black regular one?

No, I was talkin about Chachi. Your comment of "your one of those guys" was exactly the same thing I was thinkin but then realized he was joking.

Anyhow, I would prefer a black blower instead of the polished one. The 2.6 would be killer but don't expect your engine to last long.

Yeah, it was a complete joke. Meaning that it'll give me hp at the front wheels when power is at the rear. At least someone got it.....Eventually

I would go black as i wont spend the time to polish enough to warrent a polished version of it.

i knew he was joking but i assumed it was supposed to be at my expence aka calling me a ricer.

w/e


Oh and i would get whatever one is cheapest, KB's are expensive enough as it is

i have a kenne bell 2.1 for sale it has 6 miles on it i blew my motor with itso itis for sale at a discounted rate i will let it go 4,500 with every thing needed intercooled and all

Did you run to much boost and then went boom? Or was it something else, like a bad tune.