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PistonsFan102 03-23-2009 05:04 PM

Does this bother you?
 
Obama video

I know its only a few months, and I'm not one to judge so early, but come on.. This isn't a freaking joke.

Deathdiesel 03-23-2009 05:21 PM

Scuze me one sec i gotta dish out the award to captain obvious there. And Iraq is more than a serious issue, it should be next to our top concern. I plainly dont like Obama, not because hes black, but just because i dont trust him.

jjtgiants 03-24-2009 08:41 AM

Nope, doesn't bother me at all. It's very obvious he is taking the financial crisis seriously or else he wouldn't be doing anything at all. People will agree/disagree with his policies, but he's doing what he thinks is best for the country. I personally don't think he was laughing because he thinks the situation is funny, he was laughing in my mind because that's what people do when their heads are about to explode from trying to deal with so many problems. ha ha ha.

I just don't pay attention to these types of situations because it just because political mud slinging over nothing.

Oh, Deathdisesel because you pointed out that you don't like Obama, not cause he's black.......probably means you don't like him cause he's black. ha ha ha

Lazerred6 03-24-2009 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by jjtgiants (Post 393508)
Oh, Deathdisesel because you pointed out that you don't like Obama, not cause he's black.......probably means you don't like him cause he's black. ha ha ha

Agreed if you feel like you have to bring it up you're covering for something


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 393380)
I plainly dont like Obama, not because hes black, but just because i dont trust him.

sounds like you don't trust black people

PColav6 03-24-2009 08:46 AM

Obama gives me a laugh.

His wife an GTFO though, fuggin predator up in this bish.

King 03-24-2009 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by jjtgiants (Post 393508)
Nope, doesn't bother me at all. It's very obvious he is taking the financial crisis seriously or else he wouldn't be doing anything at all. People will agree/disagree with his policies, but he's doing what he thinks is best for the country. I personally don't think he was laughing because he thinks the situation is funny, he was laughing in my mind because that's what people do when their heads are about to explode from trying to deal with so many problems. ha ha ha.

I just don't pay attention to these types of situations because it just because political mud slinging over nothing.

My thoughts exactly.

Lazerred6 03-24-2009 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by jjtgiants (Post 393508)
Nope, doesn't bother me at all. It's very obvious he is taking the financial crisis seriously

http://cash-make-money-online.net/wp..._greatest1.jpg


He's doing a great job

NewMustangMan 03-24-2009 09:38 AM

I dont think it really bothers me. I did not Vote for Obama but he is our president and needs all the support he can get. I really hope he turns this country around and out of the financial crisis. I am a Conservative but that does not mean i wont support the President. His Special Olympics thing did not bother me. I have a cousin who is Mentaly handicap. These are tough times in the USA and i think we need to stop picking at everything everyone does and chillax alittle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WNRacing 03-24-2009 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Lazerred6 (Post 393516)

lol, +1..

I don't even bother paying attention to the whole thing anymore. Politicians aren't looking out for us anymore, they're looking out for their own back pockets. Obama isn't the great and magical fairy tale "superman" that the media has led everyone to believe, but if it helps them all sleep better at night, I guess that's good.

jjtgiants 03-24-2009 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by Lazerred6 (Post 393516)

thats pretty funny, but for the record I never said he was doing a good or bad job. I just said he is taking it seriously and doing what HE thinks is right for the country. I love how people constantly bitch and complain while armchair politicking because they are SOOOOO smart. That goes for people in both parties.

Anyway, the cartoon is funny though.

bassman97 03-24-2009 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by NewMustangMan (Post 393517)
I dont think it really bothers me. I did not Vote for Obama but he is our president and needs all the support he can get. I really hope he turns this country around and out of the financial crisis. I am a Conservative but that does not mean i wont support the President. His Special Olympics thing did not bother me. I have a cousin who is Mentaly handicap. These are tough times in the USA and i think we need to stop picking at everything everyone does and chillax alittle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He needs none of our support. He is doing a horrible job already, and has already sky-rocketed the debt so high that the Chinese are worried we won't pay them back. And we didn't even finish the first year! If he wants my support, he needs to do the right thing and cut the budget and spending, not set new record highs. I'm w/ Rush, I hope he fails. Better to have a Carter than a FDR.

NewMustangMan 03-24-2009 10:50 AM

I dont know how you can hope he fails. Do i agree with all the money he is spending and just giving away? Hell no but I dont want him to fail cause that means this country will be worse off then we already are.

jjtgiants 03-24-2009 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by bassman97 (Post 393527)
He needs none of our support. He is doing a horrible job already, and has already sky-rocketed the debt so high that the Chinese are worried we won't pay them back. And we didn't even finish the first year! If he wants my support, he needs to do the right thing and cut the budget and spending, not set new record highs. I'm w/ Rush, I hope he fails. Better to have a Carter than a FDR.

The real bassman please stand up! That's a pretty shitty dude. Yeah, you don't agree with his policies, and that's cool with me, but hoping he fails is just childish if you ask me. To me, what you said is no different than saying you hope our troops fail.

bassman97 03-24-2009 11:55 AM

No, if he fails, that means he doesn't get re-elected. Him failing and the country failing are two different things. While both can lead to one another, there are not one in the same. If him failing results in the country failing, so be it. Better to have a quick and painless death than a painful and prolonged one. That's where FDR screwed up.

Deathdiesel 03-24-2009 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Lazerred6 (Post 393509)
Agreed if you feel like you have to bring it up you're covering for something



sounds like you don't trust black people

*sigh* soo glad i gave my opinion.. and im not gunna try to say some bullshit like "oh half my friends are black" but whatever seems like any opinion i post on these forums gets bashed on anyways..

00blkstanggt 03-24-2009 01:03 PM

It's not like there is a quick fix for this economy. He's only been president for a few months. Do you guys really want to bring Bush back? He did such an awesome job too. I know I know, you guys blame Clinton for all the stuff that is wrong and it wasn't any of Bush's doing. If that is true, why the hell didn't Bush do anything to fiix it? You guys can all talk about how bad they are doing and what needs to be done, but when all is said, you have no idea until you are actually in the presidents shoes.

PColav6 03-24-2009 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 393556)
*sigh* soo glad i gave my opinion.. and im not gunna try to say some bullshit like "oh half my friends are black" but whatever seems like any opinion i post on these forums gets bashed on anyways..

God damn racist.

Lazerred6 03-24-2009 01:28 PM

Blame Clinton nothing there is documentation showing his administration could have prevented this and were asked to but he did nothing. Bush didn't do anything to help it either I'll give you that but Obama's policy of throw brand new money at absolutely everything except the taxpayers won't help anything.

JackThe Ripper 03-24-2009 01:41 PM

OMG Obama diddnt fix the wolrd in 3 months!

Holy shit!

The Clinton Administration caused an opening for this big real estate bubble

The bush administration blamed the economic problems on the clinton administration, yet refused to do jack shit about it, instead they just decided to distract people with a rediculous war so they could dump the whole pile of shit on the Obama administration.

Now for some reason our entire economic crisis is the fault of a man who has been in office for 3 months. Its funny how people decide to leap onto the HATE OBAMA bandwagon because he hasnt fixed the damn problem in 3 months, while the buch administration diddnt do FUCKO about it for 8 YEARS.

lol

This si why i refust to associate with either party. If both sides would spend half the time fixing the problem that they spend on finding ways to blame eachother, everything would be cool.

here is a little perspective on "trillion"

http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html

3.8LMustang 03-24-2009 01:42 PM

that bitch ass fo is just putting us more in debt

i dont know why in the fuck they voted him for president....i mean you could even tell b4 he became president that all he was saying is wat the people wanted to hear and now that he is president he isnt doin shit

i hope they boot his ass out

JackThe Ripper 03-24-2009 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by 3.8LMustang (Post 393585)
that bitch ass fo is just putting us more in debt

i dont know why in the fuck they voted him for president....i mean you could even tell b4 he became president that all he was saying is wat the people wanted to hear and now that he is president he isnt doin shit

i hope they boot his ass out


wait.... so are you one of those idiots that thinks he should have things fixed in 3 months?

if that was the case why diddnt Bush do shit about it for 8 years?

lol

3.8LMustang 03-24-2009 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by JackThe Ripper (Post 393591)
wait.... so are you one of those idiots that thinks he should have things fixed in 3 months?

if that was the case why diddnt Bush do shit about it for 8 years?

lol


no im not but damn..the way he is headed does seem too good :p

all bush cared about was the war, thats wat he did with his 8 years of being president

3.8LMustang 03-24-2009 02:04 PM

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PistonsFan102 03-24-2009 02:10 PM

I think he is trying to do too much in the 3 months he has been in office, I think that is the problem.

Just focus on the economy first and the war first, please.


Of course Bush was partially to blame for the economic collapse, but then again everyone has to take responsibiliy, *cough* BARNEY FRANK *cough*. We all know how that went. It's not like the democratic party hasnt had any say in Congress the previous two years.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

WNRacing 03-24-2009 02:11 PM

lol, this is funny.

It can't ALL be blamed on Obama, this whole mess has been compounded for years and years, before Bush, probably getting fired up near the beginning of Clinton's administration.

America needs to learn the right way to live again and hopefully this will help knock us back flat on our asses. WE, as in all of us need to learn to live within our means, as in, if you can't afford the car/truck/house/insurance payment, don't sign on the dotted line. If you can't afford the credit card payment at the end of the month, keep it in your wallett or shred it. All of these people knew what they were risking on these ARMS and all of these other "gimme something for free" loans. I'm just sick of people blaming everyone but themselves, if you bought that house that you knew you couldn't afford if the interest rate increased then YOU made a bad decision.

Now, I think the Obama administration is coo coo, they seem to think they can "fix" the economy by throwing away billions of dollars to places like AIG is going to "stimulate" the economy.. bah! The only reason why these companies are getting bailed out is because that money is making it's way back to the politicians pockets in one way or another.

Lazerred6 03-24-2009 02:16 PM

If Obama had fixed the economy in 3 month I would proclaim him the savior or some shit like that. I didn't expect anything by now and I don't think he or anyone could fix it in 4 years maybe 8 but the crazy amount of spending that is going on with absolutly not accountability just shows poor planning his administration was in such a hurry to do something that they didn't give a damn what it was

3.8LMustang 03-24-2009 02:16 PM

yup....thats why i dont go buy casr/houses that i cant afford :p

PistonsFan102 03-24-2009 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 393595)
lol, this is funny.

America needs to learn the right way to live again and hopefully this will help knock us back flat on our asses. WE, as in all of us need to learn to live within our means, as in, if you can't afford the car/truck/house/insurance payment, don't sign on the dotted line. If you can't afford the credit card payment at the end of the month, keep it in your wallett or shred it. All of these people knew what they were risking on these ARMS and all of these other "gimme something for free" loans. I'm just sick of people blaming everyone but themselves, if you bought that house that you knew you couldn't afford if the interest rate increased then YOU made a bad decision.

I think the American public always forgets about this one.


But let's get real now. I don't think people care whose fault it was (government/Congress/previous presidents/American citizens/greedy CEOs)....LET'S FOCUS ON SOLVING THE PROBLEM.

bassman97 03-24-2009 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by JackThe Ripper (Post 393584)
This si why i refust to associate with either party. If both sides would spend half the time fixing the problem that they spend on finding ways to blame eachother, everything would be cool.

Amen to that. Or if the GOP party got some balls and stuck to Conservatism instead of trying to appease the "moderates." I just hope that idiot Steele leaves and goes to the Dems (where he belongs) and lets a real leader rebuild Lincoln's party. It's because of the marriage of the two main parties that I'm mainly a Libertarian now.

Does anyone expect Obama to accomplish much in 3 months? No, but he sure thinks he has solved all problems. Plus, his "accomplishments" are a great bill that is not going to be paid off by just balancing the budget or "scalpel" style cutting. Even "axe" style cutting is not going to be enough. The man ruined us. Just weight until the Reserve starts telling the Treasury to print bills to pay for our $2 trillion bill.

You want blame? There's too many to list. This was the fault of people in the government from FDR who started Freddie to Barney Fwank (said in his style of speech) who accepted "donations" from Freddie and Fannie to ignore the problems. When people for-warned about the upcoming collapse, everyone either ignored them because we were riding the wave or dismissed as worry-mongers. Then of course, there's you and me, who have embraced the convenience of credit and the others who got hooked on it and made stupid decisions. So now, the 90% of us who weren't retarded have to pay for the 10% that were. This is the Democratic mentality. This also happens to be the Socialist mentality too.

JackThe Ripper 03-24-2009 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 393595)

America needs to learn the right way to live again and hopefully this will help knock us back flat on our asses. WE, as in all of us need to learn to live within our means, as in, if you can't afford the car/truck/house/insurance payment, don't sign on the dotted line. If you can't afford the credit card payment at the end of the month, keep it in your wallett or shred it. All of these people knew what they were risking on these ARMS and all of these other "gimme something for free" loans. I'm just sick of people blaming everyone but themselves, if you bought that house that you knew you couldn't afford if the interest rate increased then YOU made a bad decision.
.

Dude i could not have said that better!!!!!!!

:t:

Deathdiesel 03-24-2009 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by PColav6 (Post 393581)
God damn racist.

Gee thanks...wtf did i ever do to you?

JackThe Ripper 03-24-2009 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Deathdiesel (Post 393630)
Gee thanks...wtf did i ever do to you?


he is touchy about racism, he has a black lab.


BAHAHAHAHAHA

NewMustangMan 03-24-2009 05:08 PM

hahahaha awesome im gonna sig that!

jjtgiants 03-24-2009 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 393595)
lol, this is funny.

It can't ALL be blamed on Obama, this whole mess has been compounded for years and years, before Bush, probably getting fired up near the beginning of Clinton's administration.

America needs to learn the right way to live again and hopefully this will help knock us back flat on our asses. WE, as in all of us need to learn to live within our means, as in, if you can't afford the car/truck/house/insurance payment, don't sign on the dotted line. If you can't afford the credit card payment at the end of the month, keep it in your wallett or shred it. All of these people knew what they were risking on these ARMS and all of these other "gimme something for free" loans. I'm just sick of people blaming everyone but themselves, if you bought that house that you knew you couldn't afford if the interest rate increased then YOU made a bad decision.
Now, I think the Obama administration is coo coo, they seem to think they can "fix" the economy by throwing away billions of dollars to places like AIG is going to "stimulate" the economy.. bah! The only reason why these companies are getting bailed out is because that money is making it's way back to the politicians pockets in one way or another.

+1 except for the last paragraph. From what i've read the AIG issue is a lot deeper than that.

PistonsFan102 03-24-2009 08:22 PM

On the last paragraph I think you should look at the collapse of Lehman Bros. and see what it did to the credit panic in the US.

WNRacing 03-24-2009 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by jjtgiants (Post 393712)
+1 except for the last paragraph. From what i've read the AIG issue is a lot deeper than that.

AIG is a SCUM company. They undercut all of the competition on their rates, only to throw all of their money into shaky stocks trying the "get rich quick schemes" then when all of the money in the stock market was lost they couldn't pay their claims and had to run to the government and suck money from the tax payers. They have already applied for a rate reduction in TN because now they have plenty of money in the bank and they can undercut all of the competition again. You can see the cycle I'm getting at here... The only problem is that this time it was made very public and it probably going to backfire in their faces.

Someone is on the inside of that deal and getting their pockets stuffed, and it sure as heck isn't you or me.

HokieStang00 03-24-2009 08:38 PM

I don't understand people's relationship of shitty economy = shitty president, vice versa, as if the president has so much influence on it. Things got bad when Bush was in office and people hated him for it. Now Obama comes along and they have this unreal expectation that he's going to solve everything overnight. I'm no politics major, but I'm pretty sure the shithole we're in runs a lot deeper than one man's decisions.

jjtgiants 03-25-2009 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 393724)
AIG is a SCUM company. They undercut all of the competition on their rates, only to throw all of their money into shaky stocks trying the "get rich quick schemes" then when all of the money in the stock market was lost they couldn't pay their claims and had to run to the government and suck money from the tax payers. They have already applied for a rate reduction in TN because now they have plenty of money in the bank and they can undercut all of the competition again. You can see the cycle I'm getting at here... The only problem is that this time it was made very public and it probably going to backfire in their faces.

Someone is on the inside of that deal and getting their pockets stuffed, and it sure as heck isn't you or me.

I agree with you, I'm just saying their scummy tactics made it so their hands were in everything, so much so that AIG alone could have taken down most of the financial institutions in this country. I'm assuming by saying someone on the inside you mean politicians. I don't think that's the case. The AIG dudes were getting their pockets stuffed and totally took advantage because they knew the government couldn't let them fail.

This won't be a very popular statement, but I'd nationalize AIG for 1 week in order to get all of those crooks out of their and new leaders in there.

WNRacing 03-25-2009 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by jjtgiants (Post 393811)
I agree with you, I'm just saying their scummy tactics made it so their hands were in everything, so much so that AIG alone could have taken down most of the financial institutions in this country. I'm assuming by saying someone on the inside you mean politicians. I don't think that's the case. The AIG dudes were getting their pockets stuffed and totally took advantage because they knew the government couldn't let them fail.

This won't be a very popular statement, but I'd nationalize AIG for 1 week in order to get all of those crooks out of their and new leaders in there.


...Considering how hard our domestic auto manufacturers had to fight for what, 17 billion (each) you really don't think that there are a handful of politicians getting their pockets stuffed out of the 140+ billion dollars that we just handed over to AIG?

I think we should let AIG go under. Demand a refund of all of the bailout money and let them try to operate in bankruptcy or just shut down all together. There are plenty of insurance companies out there ready to pick up the pieces.

bassman97 03-25-2009 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 393812)
...Considering how hard our domestic auto manufacturers had to fight for what, 17 billion (each) you really don't think that there are a handful of politicians getting their pockets stuffed out of the 140+ billion dollars that we just handed over to AIG?

I think we should let AIG go under. Demand a refund of all of the bailout money and let them try to operate in bankruptcy or just shut down all together. There are plenty of insurance companies out there ready to pick up the pieces.

Capitalism FTW. Markets have the ability to correct themselves in bad times, by giving those who haven't been stupid an opportunity to succeed. By subsidizing the idiots, this lull period is only going to be extended or be made worse by dragging everyone under. This was the point behind Rick Sanetelli's rant on CNBC.

Now, those that blame Obama or Bush solely for this only have to look to themselves since it was congress that screwed this one up. However, presidents like FDR, Johnson, Carter, and Clinton all didn't help by passing legislation to get us into this mess. However, I will blame Obama for making it worse. There's a reason why when Bush left, the market stabilized and as soon as Obama opened his mouth, Wall St went !@#$, SELL! What Obama is trying to do is emulate FDR, by increasing spending in a time of recession. However, there's a couple problems with that. First is that FDR didn't have $11 trillion of debt to deal w/. Second is that what FDR did had no effect on the depression, but may have actually extended it. Third is the fact that FDR had the dollar on the gold standard. Now we don't so we are very now vulnerable to inflation. If you want to see how bad it is, see Glen Beck's video on An Inconvenient Debt. What's even worse is Obama is to set new records highs for budgets, yet this is a time where tax collection is down because of the economy and a time where we can't get loans anymore. This means inflation. Apparently, Obama never learned about the depression and what role inflation played (especially in Europe).


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