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JackThe Ripper 01-20-2009 04:31 PM

President Obama
 
Anyone watch the inaguration today?

When Obama was giving his speech Bush looked like he was pouting.

PistonsFan102 01-20-2009 05:00 PM

I watched it. I didn't vote for him, but for some reason I am not upset that he won. I honestly think he won't lean all the way to the left.

Good luck Barack!!!

stanger00 01-20-2009 05:09 PM

i thought about watching it but i just went on with my life instead

JackThe Ripper 01-20-2009 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by stanger00 (Post 377866)
i thought about watching it but i just went on with my life instead

One of these days yer gonna be back on this end of the drink.

lol...

3.8for the win 01-20-2009 07:18 PM

i watched president obama's speech and swearing in, then i left to go snowboarding.

good luck president obama!!!!

King 01-20-2009 07:23 PM

I missed it and I was pissed about it too! I was told that I'd get suspended if I left class to go watch it, what kind of shi- is that?

PistonsFan102 01-20-2009 10:59 PM

I just think people think "change" is going to happen over night. Citizens have their expectations really high for this man. He is no God, and it will take time for this country to turn around.

But I like him...well partially.

bassman97 01-21-2009 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by PistonsFan102 (Post 377864)
I watched it. I didn't vote for him, but for some reason I am not upset that he won. I honestly think he won't lean all the way to the left.

Good luck Barack!!!

You kidding? His speech was chock full of his liberal plans. Socialized healthcare, more bailouts, more federal involvement in education, etc. Sounds to me either we are going deeper in the hole in terms of debt or taxes are going sky high w/ this man. Just what we needed at a time like this.

Oh, did I mention? This was such a historic event.

3.8LMustang 01-21-2009 06:27 AM

nope

stanger00 01-21-2009 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by JackThe Ripper (Post 377872)
One of these days yer gonna be back on this end of the drink.

lol...

i know and its a scary thought...

PColav6 01-21-2009 08:31 AM

Missed it. Oh well.

WNRacing 01-21-2009 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by JackThe Ripper (Post 377852)
Anyone watch the inaguration today?

When Obama was giving his speech Bush looked like he was pouting.

I watched some of it here at my computer.. I thought Bush carried himself very well, looked bored as shit, but he seemed very respectful.

We'll see what happens, Obama can give a speech like no one's business, but can he actually run the country?.. Who knows? He has no experience, so it's going to be interesting.

Redrum 01-21-2009 08:53 AM

was workin

jjtgiants 01-21-2009 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 378010)
I watched some of it here at my computer.. I thought Bush carried himself very well, looked bored as shit, but he seemed very respectful.

We'll see what happens, Obama can give a speech like no one's business, but can he actually run the country?.. Who knows? He has no experience, so it's going to be interesting.

From what I've read and seen on the news it seems as if the Bush Admin was very respectful with the transition so my hat goes off to him and his staff. I didn't think he was pouting...Just couldn't tell if he was a little upset his time was up, or if he was relieved he doesn't have to deal with this mess anymore. Either way I can't blame him.

That is the million dollar question......can he take the great speeches and make things happen? Only time will tell. I also dont' think he is going to lean as far to the left as most people think. Pelosi is going to get PISSED at Obama at some point.

He might have some liberal plans, but do some of you suggest government do nothing to help the economy? If that's the case then you probably think Roosevelts "New Deal" was a joke to. I don't pretend to have any answers to the economic crisis, but I don't think government can sit back and do nothing. If that were to happen some of you would start saying the Government didn't do enough to help while the country crumbled.....can't have it both ways.

bassman97 01-21-2009 01:29 PM

The New Deal was a joke. Ask any real economist and they'll say it was the war, not "The New Deal" that brought us out of the depression. What the New Deal did though was make it seem like the government was trying. Though it screwed us in the end thanks to Freddie, Social Security, and all the other government programs that it created that later crashed or will. If the government wants to do something to help the economy, the answer isn't to make the $10 trillion of debt plus the deficit bigger.

00blkstanggt 01-21-2009 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 378010)
I watched some of it here at my computer.. I thought Bush carried himself very well, looked bored as shit, but he seemed very respectful.

We'll see what happens, Obama can give a speech like no one's business, but can he actually run the country?.. Who knows? He has no experience, so it's going to be interesting.

He might not have as much politcal experience as some, but who has experience running the country? Nobody until they are in office. Give him a chance and see what he can do in 4 years. Just cause you have tons of experience doesn't mean you would do great things. More than likely that just means you have more experience being corrupt. haha. Anyways, I didn't have any experience with my job right now, but I kicked ass in the interview and have proven myself.

JackThe Ripper 01-21-2009 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by WNRacing (Post 378010)
We'll see what happens, Obama can give a speech like no one's business, but can he actually run the country?.. Who knows? He has no experience, so it's going to be interesting.


Where do you get the rediculous idea he has no experience? He has been axctivly participating in the Political arena for 20 years.

There is a massive difference between having 20 years of experience, and having "no experience".

do you think they just grabbed some random dude working at burger king and made him president?

There are only 4 people alive who have experience bring a President of the Unites States of america. George H, George W, Carter, and Bill Clinton.

and i sure diddnt see any of them on the polls.

lol

King 01-21-2009 09:27 PM

I'm not going to get too involved in this experience debate because anytime we talk politics and I get involved, people get pissed. My only real input is this:

Regardless of if you like him or not, Barack Obama is the President of our great nation and deserves your respect. So no matter what you actually think, do not disrespect our President.

Leonide 01-21-2009 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by King (Post 378166)
I'm not going to get too involved in this experience debate because anytime we talk politics and I get involved, people get pissed. My only real input is this:

Regardless of if you like him or not, Barack Obama is the President of our great nation and deserves your respect. So no matter what you actually think, do not disrespect our President.


+1 for truth. and from an Army standpoint, he is our commander-in-chief, and we must respect the man, no matter who he is.

bassman97 01-22-2009 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by JackThe Ripper (Post 378120)
Where do you get the rediculous idea he has no experience? He has been axctivly participating in the Political arena for 20 years.

There is a massive difference between having 20 years of experience, and having "no experience".

do you think they just grabbed some random dude working at burger king and made him president?

There are only 4 people alive who have experience bring a President of the Unites States of america. George H, George W, Carter, and Bill Clinton.

and i sure diddnt see any of them on the polls.

lol

Being part of politics isn't experience. One needs leadership experience. W had it because he was governor. Clinton had because of the same deal. H.W. had it from being head of CIA. Carter was a peanut farmer, and his inexperience showed. Plus, in the 20 years Obama has been in politics, what has he done? As far as I can tell, the only thing he has done was get to where he was by default (most elections he won he was the only candidate) and once in the US senate, set the record on voting present. Yeah, that's sounds like plenty of experience. Welcome everyone to Carter's 2nd term.

WNRacing 01-22-2009 09:15 AM

Oh my god Chris, pull your thong out of your ass, either that or go make out with Obama 'cause it sounds like you've got a serious man crush.

You make it sound like I made some uber-degrading remark about the guy when all I said was this his lack of experience was going to be interesting to watch. I don't care what kind of "20 year" bullshit you talk about, like bassman said, he has had very little true leadership experience in any part of his political career.

Let me shorten my explanation. - He talks a very good talk, but will his actions back up what his mouth says? Only time will tell.

Oh, and BTW JMHO so far his actions aren't backing anything that he has said up. Another trillion dollar "stimulous" bailout?. That's really going to help.. More monopoly money! :)

Anyway, good luck to the guy, and good luck to all of us, keep your fingers crossed and save as much money as you can.

Lazerred6 01-22-2009 09:18 AM

Bye Bye Gitmo

Day 2 and Obama closes the door

I didn't specifically like the place but I guess interigations for terrorists will be different from now on




Interigator "please tell us where your sleeper cell is hiding"

Suspect "No"

Interigator "damn"

PistonsFan102 01-22-2009 10:12 AM

I definately do not agree with closin down and Gitmo.

And another thing, Bush already tried stimulus packages. Can someone explain to Obama that it didn't work?


...in the end he is my president and I will respect him like King said.

jjtgiants 01-22-2009 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Lazerred6 (Post 378225)
Bye Bye Gitmo

Day 2 and Obama closes the door

I didn't specifically like the place but I guess interigations for terrorists will be different from now on




Interigator "please tell us where your sleeper cell is hiding"

Suspect "No"

Interigator "damn"


LOL....that sounds about right. I haven't really formed an opinion on this Gitmo thing or torture. I generally think we need to do what is necessary to keep our country safe, but at what expense. I don't know.

I don't know if there is any job in America that can prepare you to be president. By some of the logic you guys use it would seem to me that there would only be a few Governors that would have enough experience to run a this country, and those Governors would be from the big states like Cali, Texas, Florida ect....otherwise how is running Alaska where the budget it tiny or population is tiny compared to the rest of the big states that are used to dealing with billions of dollars and millions of people.

Only time will tell, so for all of you internet scholars.... relax it's only been two days into the adminstration.

jjtgiants 01-22-2009 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by PistonsFan102 (Post 378246)
I definately do not agree with closin down and Gitmo.

And another thing, Bush already tried stimulus packages. Can someone explain to Obama that it didn't work?


...in the end he is my president and I will respect him like King said.

the stimulus package Bush put together basically went to banks and it's not working because they aren't loaning any of the money the Fed's game them.

Obama's stimulus package would go more towards infrastructure projects throughout the country to get people working....when contruction stops in this country we are in a world of hurt and were are seeing that happen now. I think he is basically trying a new version of the "New Deal". I have no idea if it will work or not, but we'll see. I'm sure some of the internet scholars on this site will tell us why it won't work cause they know everything.

Dave04Mustang 01-22-2009 11:41 AM

I don't agree with closing down Gitmo. Yeah sure there were some people saying they weren't being treated right but hey at least we don't cut people's heads off on satellite TV...

jjtgiants 01-22-2009 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Dave04Mustang (Post 378262)
I don't agree with closing down Gitmo. Yeah sure there were some people saying they weren't being treated right but hey at least we don't cut people's heads off on satellite TV...

I'm not trying to argue, just trying to figure out the issue.

What do you think about holding U.S. citizens in Gitmo? I have no idea what we should do with terrorists we've captured outside of the U.S.

Lazerred6 01-22-2009 11:47 AM

When I read about they were talking about how it will change the way the rest of the world percieves the united states.






Hahahahahahah

PistonsFan102 01-22-2009 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by jjtgiants (Post 378251)
the stimulus package Bush put together basically went to banks and it's not working because they aren't loaning any of the money the Fed's game them.

Obama's stimulus package would go more towards infrastructure projects throughout the country to get people working....when contruction stops in this country we are in a world of hurt and were are seeing that happen now. I think he is basically trying a new version of the "New Deal". I have no idea if it will work or not, but we'll see. I'm sure some of the internet scholars on this site will tell us why it won't work cause they know everything.

Except the New Deal didn't work.

JackThe Ripper 01-22-2009 02:08 PM

Wnracing,

it isnt a man crush. lol. Its just all i ever heared from you was 3rd rate hyperbole of how shitty obama was, but i never saw any valid or relavant points, just typical mudslinging propaganda and rhetoric. That is the only issue i have with your arguements against obama, is they all seem to be the same played out crap that never panned out when everyone else said it and was proven wrong.

, i never even heared you say a single positive thing about Mccain other than he wasnt Obama. I wouldnt be suprised if this was you the morning obama was sworn in.

http://markontheworld.files.wordpres...10/the-end.jpg


lol

j/k



And KING, Leonide, i couldnt disagree with you more.

Placing uncompromised trust into anybody without justification is just wrong.

President or not, Obama has a lot to do to prove himself up for the task. America gave him the chance, that doesent mean we should blindly respect him. We absolutly SHOULD challange what he says and voice any objections we have to his policies. That is our duty as Americans to give him feedback on his performance.

I will always have respect for the "Office" of the President of United States of America, I respect his authority and power the american people have granted him in order to enable him to hopefully lead us to a better situation, but it would be a grave disservice to blindly respect the person in that role.

I have about as much respect for George Bush as i have for that lady on Maury getting peternity tests from 11 men to try to determine who the father of her child is.


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