3 valve here i come!!
 

Yep it's official, i went into the shop today and they told me they ordered my stroker rotating assembly along with Mahle forged 3v pistons, and the livernois ported 3v heads along with comp 274 cams. Shoule be about 2-3 weeks until everything is in, then about 1-2 weeks until everything is done. i cant fricken wait its crazy he said i should be right around 380-400 rwhp NA. heres some pictures of the things im getting click to make larger-

Stroker rotating assembly
http://www.picfury.com/19/img1001large-2-th.jpg

3v heads 301 @.600 lift intake 218 exhaust at .600
http://www.picfury.com/19/img1349large-2-th.jpg
3v forged stroker pistons
http://www.picfury.com/19/img1472large-1-th.jpg

That's sweet man! Why not a 4 valve?

i wanted to do 4v but it was way too much, and these heads are on par with most 4v heads

Good for you...pics dont work.

That's sweet man! Your going to have a freaking good time with that much HP

Yeah i Know plus a little shot of nitrous, if i can get it to hook it will be in the 10's

BTW pics work

and a shot of nitrous! Holly hell your going to be popping wheelies! I would suggest getting a solid axle from wrecked mach or something and then build it up.....you'll be able to hook like a MOFO with none of that wheel hop crap!

yeah I know, I will hold off on the traction stuff for now, i dont feel like spending money on a new rear end, lol its going to be crazy
i probably wont use the nitrous unless im at the track and that wont be very often

yeah now they do...nice stuff dude...can I have it? lol.

lol its gonna be awesome but i would almost rather have my car the way it was then go 2 moths with out a car and spen a crap load of money

Seems like youll need at least a 200 shot on slicks for 10's......that plastic 3V intake is gonna hate you........

lol aitn that the truth, the 3v intake i hear is much much better than the 2v plastic intake, my tuner says

sick dude! you're the first I've seen to do the 3v swap.

those are awesome n/a numbers! how much did this all cost?


and yeah dude, when you actually get it to hook. you're rear end is GONE

yeah I will be the first to do the 3v swap on a street car, Maybe i'll get in a mustang magazine??? But it was not cheap ill tell you that Guess?, but i figure if i had to get my engine rebuilt then why not do something that is worth while and something i want, yeah i know i will probably have to get a new rear end soon:wallbash:

Thats going to be sick. Hope you got some money left over for some replacment parts. I also dont think youll even run 11s with your current setup, much less 10s, but if you do, more power to you.

Thanks man... yeah 10's might have been a little off but I think with a good launch probably mid to high 11's but probably consistent low 12's, but thats isnt the reason i am doing this, im doing it because i wanted lots of power NA... Its not going to be a drag car by any means, just above average street car, something to get me from a-b

Well, regardless, you are doing something in the mustang community that hasnt been done many times (zero that im aware of) and thats deffinetly bragging rights right there. Good luck with the continuation of your project. Im deffinetly interested in seeing how this turns out.

I'm gonna say mid 12's........but thats due to traction, weight, and breaking points. If you go all out off the line I swear your going to most likely break something. If not your rear then your tranny. So just be aware of the limitations of your other stock components.

I would love to do a 3-valve set up....its going to be exciting to see the finished product

give him more credit dude. he's gonna have about 400 rwhp plus a shot of nitrous. I say mid to high 11's on DR's and maybe low 11's to (dare i say it) very high 10s on slicks and some damn good driving....as long as something doesnt break (@ sealevel)

sealevel is cheating. lol

Thanks guys for the compliments, i will definatly keep you guys posted wiht pictures and such

and lets not forget its an auto so being a good driver really wont be an issue lol

but thats for now next comes the tko 500 or 600 after a couple more loans lol:wallbash:

I know :( bastards

380rwhp N/A? That's badass! I'm very interested in this, I had been thinking of doing a 2v 5.4 stroked to 5.8 swap but it sounds like this will make even more power from the stock block.

A few questions, how much did the parts cost (if you don't mind me asking) ? What will the new displacement be? With the new cams, do you lose the variable valve timing?

Thanks, and good luck. PLEASE keep us updated!

:beerchug:

variable valve timing??

all the parts cost under 5000 plus 4-500 for the 05/06 gt parts, the 3v heads dont change the displcaement but the stroker crank does it will be a 302 5.0
you will get more gains with a 3v or 4v then converting to a 5.4 2v, the 5.4 has the same block as the 4.6 just bigger pistons, now if you stroke the 5.4 and add ported 3v or 4v heads then you will have some serious power

OMG............ITS NOT A TOYOTA CELICA.......lol.....I know the 3 valves now have the variable cam timing.

It varies the timing of the intake valves by using hydraulic pressure to rotate the camshaft.

He can run 10s if he wants to spray it that hard..... Also with a built rear.

A 600whp full weight mustang will run 10s with traction. He said hell make between 380-400whp.....So all he needs is about 200 extra horsepower. A dual stage kit would work. Basically just buy another NX kit so you have 2 systems (both 100 shot) and add the dual stage controller to it.

Forged blocks are fun.......

well, been doing some late night thinking and Ive decided i really really want to convert to manual, I will probably have enough money for it so im thinking i'll either go with the 3650 or the t56 depending on how much i have, either way i will be charged barely anything IF anything for istallation all i have to do is find the parts, this should yield me some more HP and driving will be much more fun

so as of now i am converting to manual , it would be stupid not to considering i am basically getting it done for free

Definitely go with the T56, that's what I'm doing.

lucky!!!

400rwhp NA... are you kidding? I bet he sees that in bhp but probably closer to 325-330rwhp unless the compression is in ORBIT. 400 is hard to get out of a streetable 4V NA.

Don't want to pee on your parade but had to say that. I really hope you do prove me wrong but I'm confident that your builder is absurdly optimistic.

Well i guess we will have to see wont we?.... Blow-by racing has a 2005 GT with bolt-ons and cams and it put out about 360rwhp, this was abwhile ago to, now you add better cams and ported heads, then i dont see why i wont be around the 400rwhp range, not to mention its going to be a stroker.

look at it this way, I am increasing the displacement, adding a valve, adding ported heads and lopey cams, plus a better intake and posssibly a better transmission
if i was only going to be around 325-330 range then i would have stuck with the 2v

like I said.. I sincerely hope to Dog that I'm wrong. I'd love to see a 3v hit 400NA. That would give me a hardon in the biggest way. I'm just being the voice of pessimism. make sure you keep us updated. I'm terribly interested.

yep I will definately keep you and everyone updated, cant wait to see what happens, i will be taking pictures along with the dyno video. stay tuned!

r3dn3ck really knows his stuff so I'm with him on it making 400 crank. Look at the cobra R. a bored out, 4v, 5.4 liter, tuned engine makes 385 bhp. So to get a 5.0, 3v, tuned, cammed engine, 400 crank hp is realistic, but 400rwhp is a pretty far off. I see 350rwhp, but that extra 50 rwhp would be hard to come by

My Intake!!!!
 

Just came in today!!! Man I love the 05/06 gt intake, looks so much better!!! and there is the valve covers, they look damn good too!!

http://www.picfury.com/1a/HPIM1377-1-th.JPG

http://www.picfury.com/1a/HPIM1376-2-th.JPG

The Cobra R isn't bored out. It also doesn't have variable cam timing.

You are critically wrong in a very very important point. Hate to say it publicly but we want accurate info here for the n00bs. The 5.4 is a tall deck 4.6 not a bored out 4.6. The pistons are IDENTICAL to those used in the rest of the modular motor series. The difference is in a .6"ish longer stroke (accomplished by a longer throw at the crank and a longer connecting rod pushing the slugs in a 1"ish taller block). If you put 3V heads on a 5.4 it would be a right powerful motor. 4V heads even moreso. But, as you increase the HP, you lose tq for any specific volumetric efficiency. You can bore and stroke a 5.4 all the way to 6.0L if you so desire but I don't like the cylinders being bored that far as it causes serious heat issues. Also the long rod on the 5.4 loads the side walls of the cylinder and wears them unevenly as it sits (eventually they'll be slightly out of round). A longer stroke only makes that situation worse, so I'm not keen on stroking the 5.4. Stroking the 4.6 is a good way to take advantage of the extra flow from the 3V head and should return respectable power but I'm still kinda iffy on the >350rwhp thing. I'll probably (hopefully) be proven wrong but that's better to me than pumping smoke up your kiester when I actually have doubts.

As for more HP, yep... you'll certainly have more HP with a 3v 4.6 or 5.4 than with a 2v. You'll never even come close to the 2v 5.4's ability to generate massive tq at low rpm's and carry that through the RPM range though. And for most guys the feeling of going fast is as good as actually going fast and that's what tq gets you... a huge shove in the back that doesn't let up. Don't forget that a stock 5.4 2v using 87 octane gas will be able to net you mid 12's. Tune it and add cams, ported heads, exhaust, intake, etc... and you'll watch your times drop even further. Add a small whiff of nitrous and high 11's are a reality all on a motor that you can buy for 1500 bucks running and ready to go. Add 500 bucks in parts and labor for the install and you're done.

The only real problem with 5.4's is a total and absolute lack of traction. Launch technique becomes critical to good times. You also benefit from the ability to get those times with lower gearing than you would on a 4.6 anything so you can regain some gas mileage.

Anyone ever notice how much those 3V valve covers look like Chebbie 409 covers? Probably not....

I'd paint those bad boys if you have the time for some extra detail work.....but cant wait why is it still on the floor and not in your car...lol

Some proof!
 

Here some numbers with blow-by racing's cams, In a 2005 gt with JLT CAI, mid pipe and catback and tune
351/336

http://www.blowbyracing.com/bbr-3v-cams.html

Here are BBR's stage 2 camshafts with ported heads and bolt ons
average of 375-385rwhp
http://www.blowbyracing.com/bbr-3vbilletstage2.html
here are some dyno runs-
http://www.blowbyracing.com/vid-380.html 380rwhp
and
http://www.blowbyracing.com/vid-406.html 406rwhp

Not bad numbers, I dont think i should have problems hittng the numbers in the second one, considering that i will have heads that flow better, 301 intake 218 exhaust compared to the BBR heads that are 282, 189. Plus the stroker rotating assembly thats good for about 20rwhp.