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ponyexpress96 08-16-2005 02:03 PM

exhaust
 
what do you guys think about putting magnapacks on my bassani x-pipe because i have to keep my cats due to imissions

venom 08-16-2005 03:17 PM

It will sound just fine,take a look at my slp setup click here

Lances03SVT 08-16-2005 04:03 PM

Will sound real good.Nice Venom.

ponyexpress96 08-16-2005 04:39 PM

for some reason the comp im on wont let me open the files so ill try agian later but thats good news less i will have to buy what do u recomend i buy (muffler)

Lances03SVT 08-16-2005 04:49 PM

I say the whole catback.It allows your car to breath a little easier and a few extra horses.

venom 08-16-2005 09:32 PM

For the price you buy mufflers and have a shop weld it. You might as well buy a cat back an install it yourself. The SLP you can install without welding not sure about other catbacks. If you are having issues with video try save as instead of opening it.

Lances03SVT 08-17-2005 03:37 AM

The Magnaflow is a bolt on too as is Mac.No welding needed and fairly simple to install.

HappySavage 08-17-2005 04:15 PM

our cars dont get emmission testing. their too new. they just make sure you got no check engine light on. they check your emissions with your cars computer. so if you dont have a light on they dont care what comes out of your pipes.
the prob. is if you get the cats off you need to have your comp reprogramed so that the check engine light is off. thats costly.
this is the way in NJ anyway.

ponyexpress96 08-19-2005 01:56 PM

so would it be better to go with the whol cat back or keep my x-pipe cause i am not really sure what the x dose and what the cat back dose i thought the x equlized the exhaust or sumthing and also what about turn downs i thought about getting them instead of getting them out the back

HappySavage 08-21-2005 10:00 AM

youll still need your x-pipe if you get the cat-backs. the x pipe replaces the cats. and then the catback exaust will hook to your x pipe. the x pipe is whats gonna make your check engine light come on(due to not havng the O2 sensors anymore). if you got one and your lights not one. then your good. you can throw anything after the x pipe.

ponyexpress96 08-21-2005 10:32 AM

but the only thing is i have to keep my cats because i have to pass emissions

OFFdutyHERO 08-23-2005 02:42 PM

I have herd of people passing emissions without the cats. Dunno about it being absolutly true tho

HappySavage 08-23-2005 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by HappySavage
our cars dont get emmission testing. their too new. they just make sure you got no check engine light on. they check your emissions with your cars computer. so if you dont have a light on they dont care what comes out of your pipes.
the prob. is if you get the cats off you need to have your comp reprogramed so that the check engine light is off. thats costly.
this is the way in NJ anyway.

like i said earlier. if you delete your cats you need your comp reprogramed. cats are on your mid pipe. a cat back exaust will replace everything after the midpipe. not the cats.
YOU ONLY FAIL EMISSIONS IF YOU GOT CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ON. they wont even check it with out a CEL on. our cars are so new that the comp knows when you are illegal with your emmissions so thats all the inspection people care about.

oh and im getting an off road x pipe soon. my emmisions wont pass. ill have CEL on. but i dont have the $$$ to have my comp. reprogramed so im gonna get it inspected before i switch, then in 2 years ill throw my cats back in. get a new inspection then throw my X pipe back in.

OFFdutyHERO 08-23-2005 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by HappySavage
like i said earlier. if you delete your cats you need your comp reprogramed. cats are on your mid pipe. a cat back exaust will replace everything after the midpipe. not the cats.
YOU ONLY FAIL EMISSIONS IF YOU GOT CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ON. they wont even check it with out a CEL on. our cars are so new that the comp knows when you are illegal with your emmissions so thats all the inspection people care about.

oh and im getting an off road x pipe soon. my emmisions wont pass. ill have CEL on. but i dont have the $$$ to have my comp. reprogramed so im gonna get it inspected before i switch, then in 2 years ill throw my cats back in. get a new inspection then throw my X pipe back in.


Why wouldnt you just get MIL's instead of all the swaping

ponyexpress96 08-24-2005 02:12 PM

thanks for all the advince guys but i still need to find out what i am gona do about it all but the county i am in is pretty strict about the emissions and all that i mean i would like to keep my x pipe but i need my cats as well but i dont know ill ask my local performance shop and also if i get the p1 heads and intake will it make my car sound diffrent?

Lightning247 08-24-2005 02:30 PM

In the state of North Carolina and in many other states that I know of vehicles do get OBDII scans in addition to emissions monitoring. Any OBDII Vehicle (96+) is required to get emissions inspection via monitoring through measuring the Hydrocarbons and NOx gasses emitted following the combustion process.

If the actual mandate in NJ is to simply plug up to the OBDII port then that's incredibly surprising the EPA doesn't jump down on that.

In the state of NC if you get pulled over and cannot produce the physical Paper print out of emissions of the various Gasses and hydrocarbons, and it match what's on file in the state capital you get fined. They couldn't give 2 ****s about a sticker.

Vehicles may "pass" inspections illegally without catalytic converters. But it is fact that a gasoline internal combustion engine without catalytic converters will never ever fail to produce higher then acceptable emissions. All you get is the sticker to fool the Po Po.

On a side note Automotive engineers in the late 80's and early 90's thought it would be 30 or 40 years before having Zero-emissions vehicles. We have manifested this technology today. Yippy.

Philip K.

venom 08-24-2005 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by ponyexpress96
what do you guys think about putting magnapacks on my bassani x-pipe because i have to keep my cats due to imissions

Ok now lets get back to your question as your confusing everyone. According to your post you have a Bassani Xpipe which I assume has cats on it, if this is the case then any catback you put on right now will not effect emissions. You have to understand that the xpipe is what has the cats attached to them as well as the 02 sensors and a catback exhaust is from the cat but not including the cat,to the tailpipe. Look at the two photos.

stanger00 08-24-2005 03:35 PM

if i didnt knwo anything about exhaust set ups i would be confused as hell after reading all this. its like the blind leading the blind.

HappySavage 08-24-2005 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by OFFdutyHERO
Why wouldnt you just get MIL's instead of all the swaping

i was under the impression mils will pop a CEL on a stock comp.


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