Not much v6 performance here :(
#2
Originally Posted by Mustangdewd3.8
NO UDPs for v6s? not much at all roller rockers or anything?
I was gonna buy some UDPs here, but I guess somehwere else
I was gonna buy some UDPs here, but I guess somehwere else
#3
Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!
Most folks who buy Stang 6's don't modify them. There is not nearly as much of a demand for performance parts fot them despite the fact that 2/3rds of all new Mustangs have V-6's. I am sure if MT fealt they would sell, they would have what you need. Who knows, perhaps MT can help.
Oh plenty sixes are modded. six cyl mustangs sell almost triple the GT... yeah there isn't as much, but I would think in a business I would try to obtain money from every source possible, I would hate to limit my production. :\
#4
Like I said, sixers outsell the 8's, but folks buy many more mods for the 8's than the 6's. If someone wants a fast car, most guys just buy an 8. You could dump $ on a six for exhaust, Intake, CAI, gears, UDP's and still not have the power of an 8, when the money spend on mods could buy one. Of course, almost the same could be said about comparing a GT to Cobra, but the price difference for a Cobra is much more.
#5
Originally Posted by Mustangdewd3.8
Oh plenty sixes are modded. six cyl mustangs sell almost triple the GT... yeah there isn't as much, but I would think in a business I would try to obtain money from every source possible, I would hate to limit my production. :\
Just look at this board for example...how many V6 posts vs V8 posts...? It is like that on every mustang board you go to....Trust me, I had one of the most elaborate V6's ever made....Roush Stage 1...(and probably most expensive)...most V6 people are into looks...not performance....
#6
Originally Posted by xcler8
The research and devolpment of such parts are SO expensive that most businesses won't make the parts, because they no they are not going to get the return on their investment...
Just look at this board for example...how many V6 posts vs V8 posts...? It is like that on every mustang board you go to....Trust me, I had one of the most elaborate V6's ever made....Roush Stage 1...(and probably most expensive)...most V6 people are into looks...not performance....
Just look at this board for example...how many V6 posts vs V8 posts...? It is like that on every mustang board you go to....Trust me, I had one of the most elaborate V6's ever made....Roush Stage 1...(and probably most expensive)...most V6 people are into looks...not performance....
I'm not talking about making new parts, I'm talking about parts that have been made like MAC UDPs for a v6 engine, that why could simply carry on the site and sell, instead of limiting it to the 4.6, don't even see many 5.0 parts .
Actually, and you could say Im wrong most of v6 guys I know want performancew over looks it's just a lot harder than for a v8. a simple port and polish on my engine in the correct areas will give me the power to eat up stock GTs, then it's a matter of modding the engine. the 94-98 3.8 has huge potential to be very fast, just need to exploit those areas of the engine, horribly underestimated. a P&P Gears god forbid forced induction most v8s on the road wouldn't have a chance costing a grand total of like 6 k worth of mods putting it at the same price bought GT sometimes less... now if a v8 had the same mods yeah it would eat up the six but you still spent liek an extra 8thousand and paying more and more where as the v6 is light powerful and a lot less cost efficient
Must be awful to see a 6 cyl leave them younger brother v8's in the dust lol
#7
How I would do it...
P&P Upper lower intakes and heads costing about 1500 - that would give a 94 3.8 about 70 hp, with the type of heads and agressive cam durrations. leaving me at 215 hp. Not bad for N/A maybe even a lil more.
4.10 gears with t lock and speedo recal 600 (cheaper on 94-98)
No HP gains
Then simple mods roller rockers, stall converter, lighter driveshaft, dump the rear seats the spare, cut off the bbody fat. etc etc you know ... 1500
but a Thunderbird SC engine complete with a Super charger 1500, take the bottom end for the higher compression, sell the rest on ebay and totalling up to about 2000 in parts, buy an ATI procharger, knock that ****er on there, running close to 260-300 hp, with that light ****ing six you would tear up the road.
Morana, supersix motorsports etc are great v6 perf sites.
Of course I left out a lot but this is the bear essentiials. ( I for one haite forced induction) but thats a cost effective way to make a v6 go fats in comparioson to buying a GT. prolly by 300 hp you'd nbeed to drop the 7.5 rearend and instead of doing greas to a 7.5 buy a 8.8 with the gears and t lock already installed, prolly work out better that way, and you never know where you can shop
but I understand where you guys are coming from Im just saying, not like Im flaming anyone here.
P&P Upper lower intakes and heads costing about 1500 - that would give a 94 3.8 about 70 hp, with the type of heads and agressive cam durrations. leaving me at 215 hp. Not bad for N/A maybe even a lil more.
4.10 gears with t lock and speedo recal 600 (cheaper on 94-98)
No HP gains
Then simple mods roller rockers, stall converter, lighter driveshaft, dump the rear seats the spare, cut off the bbody fat. etc etc you know ... 1500
but a Thunderbird SC engine complete with a Super charger 1500, take the bottom end for the higher compression, sell the rest on ebay and totalling up to about 2000 in parts, buy an ATI procharger, knock that ****er on there, running close to 260-300 hp, with that light ****ing six you would tear up the road.
Morana, supersix motorsports etc are great v6 perf sites.
Of course I left out a lot but this is the bear essentiials. ( I for one haite forced induction) but thats a cost effective way to make a v6 go fats in comparioson to buying a GT. prolly by 300 hp you'd nbeed to drop the 7.5 rearend and instead of doing greas to a 7.5 buy a 8.8 with the gears and t lock already installed, prolly work out better that way, and you never know where you can shop
but I understand where you guys are coming from Im just saying, not like Im flaming anyone here.
#8
I'm not at all trying to take any business away from MT, but dewd here are some good links to v6 performance stuff. They are both great companies... you have probably heard of them.
http://www.rpm-mustangs.com/
http://www.velocitymustangperformance.com
http://www.rpm-mustangs.com/
http://www.velocitymustangperformance.com
#9
Originally Posted by TayWolf55
I'm not at all trying to take any business away from MT, but dewd here are some good links to v6 performance stuff. They are both great companies... you have probably heard of them.
http://www.rpm-mustangs.com/
http://www.velocitymustangperformance.com
http://www.rpm-mustangs.com/
http://www.velocitymustangperformance.com
but thank you for the links cant say i been to velocity but i think I have.
edit : Yeah i have lol
#12
Sorry but I dont see how P&P and heads can be worth 70 hp on a V6. If it was that easy I think we would see alot more of this. 4.6s and 5.0s certainly dont respond that well to such mods why would a smaller motor do better?
I drove a blown 6 for a while and I loved tearing around town, but when I picked up my GT and drove it I learned that the v6 may have been quick, but certainly didn't have the potential that the 4.6 does.
I drove a blown 6 for a while and I loved tearing around town, but when I picked up my GT and drove it I learned that the v6 may have been quick, but certainly didn't have the potential that the 4.6 does.
#13
Originally Posted by camin4.6
Sorry but I dont see how P&P and heads can be worth 70 hp on a V6. If it was that easy I think we would see alot more of this. 4.6s and 5.0s certainly dont respond that well to such mods why would a smaller motor do better?
Add in some aftermarket P & P heads / intakes and cam and you have an easy 75+ hp. Heck the split port swap is worth 40 hp alone, since thats how they got the extra power switching over in 99. Unfortunately you wont see as much of a gain with a cam as you would with a 99+.
#14
Originally Posted by TayWolf55
If you have a pre 99 single port engine like he does, you can perform the split port swap. I don't know everything thats included, but its basically the top end of the engine: upper intake, lower intake, heads, modified fuel rail, etc
Add in some aftermarket P & P heads / intakes and cam and you have an easy 75+ hp. Heck the split port swap is worth 40 hp alone, since thats how they got the extra power switching over in 99. Unfortunately you wont see as much of a gain with a cam as you would with a 99+.
Add in some aftermarket P & P heads / intakes and cam and you have an easy 75+ hp. Heck the split port swap is worth 40 hp alone, since thats how they got the extra power switching over in 99. Unfortunately you wont see as much of a gain with a cam as you would with a 99+.
thank you for explaining that for me tay ^^
And nice cars again. ^^
#16
Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!
Like I said, sixers outsell the 8's, but folks buy many more mods for the 8's than the 6's. If someone wants a fast car, most guys just buy an 8. You could dump $ on a six for exhaust, Intake, CAI, gears, UDP's and still not have the power of an 8, when the money spend on mods could buy one. Of course, almost the same could be said about comparing a GT to Cobra, but the price difference for a Cobra is much more.
#18
Originally Posted by 04SVTDRIVER
I agree but I bought my 04 Cobra with 11 miles on it off the showroom floor for less than what they wanted for a 04 GT I drove my Cobra off the lot for $26,850. But I agree with you for the price difference you could buy a GT and put a huffer on it and be just as fast for a little less.
#19
Originally Posted by xcler8
I know what you mean...I just bought my 04 GT for a little over $21...and it has EVERYTHING....End of the year (especially if it end of model) is the best time to buy...(mine listed for around $28,000)
That's an awesome deal. I wanted to buy a late 04, but Im going to try and work my money towards an 05 hopefully in late august when the new model is going into the second year they'l drop prices on first model clearence. ... who knows
and Camin, yeah i was a lil blunt but it is possible, let the 3.8 friends know it's a great investment if you have the bones ^^
#22
Originally Posted by xcler8
I know what you mean...I just bought my 04 GT for a little over $21...and it has EVERYTHING....End of the year (especially if it end of model) is the best time to buy...(mine listed for around $28,000)
I purposely waited till close to end of year. GT premium, Loaded with the good stuff.
My wife did the same thing in 03 with her Chrysler Concorde LXI. Loaded for bear. She got 8,000 of the sticker. But we also get dealer incentives for working for an automotive parts supplier. I used the Ford XP incentive program. Saved me 1600 bucks from the get go ..
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