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chatmanv6 01-15-2009 06:42 PM

Little help with cam
 
Alht, mysetup, i pretty much hav onall bolt-ins on order, throttle body(75mm),pullies, already have full exhaust, i plan on getting an intake manifold, but i want to know what the best cam i can get is? i want every bit of power possible for na app, i do plan on nos in the future but only use it on the track so i want the cam for na app..so which cam? and any ideas on intake manifol any luck problem, ohh and 3.73s on the way also..

mpt_1962 01-15-2009 09:49 PM

If i were you i wouldnt go with the Intake manifold unless your swapping out the heads too. I went with the VT Stage 2 N/A cams. They were awesome, had a nice lope, perfect sound and great performance increase. I suggest you upgrade your torque converter too though. I went with a 3800 stall and 4.10 myself.

mpt_1962 01-15-2009 10:14 PM

i had alot of other mods too.

blue02 01-15-2009 10:19 PM

Im in the process of putting a similar set up on my GT. I ran with the typhoon intake but I also plan on having my heads ported by Anderson Ford. As mpt 1962 said you prolly wont get that much from an intake unless youre changing your heads. Im also torn on the cams. Ive heard nothing but great things about both comp cams 270 as well as the VT stage II. I havent read any complaints about either on any forum and I guess they have similar performance gains. Either way good luck.

mpt_1962 01-15-2009 10:23 PM

well the VT stage 2 cams you do NOT have to degree them. I'm sure there is something you can do to tweak performance, like timing and whatnot. But i just took out the old sticks and threw in the VT's, long tubes, and 3800 stall and dynoed it all at once. Only go with the intake manifold if you are porting your heads out.

bassman97 01-16-2009 04:10 AM

Guaranteed most will say get stage 2 cams. However, too many factors go into the choice, like weight, stall speed, type of trans, rear gear, desired operating range, etc. If you want the best cam for your application call/email any one of the big three (Crane, Comp, and Crower) for a recommendation (they have recommendation forms on their websites). You may not get the most power but the most power doesn't mean it's the best overall for your application.

spike_africa 01-16-2009 06:11 AM

+++1 biggest cam does not always make you the fastest.

na svt 01-16-2009 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by mpt_1962 (Post 376931)
well the VT stage 2 cams you do NOT have to degree them. I'm sure there is something you can do to tweak performance, like timing and whatnot. But i just took out the old sticks and threw in the VT's, long tubes, and 3800 stall and dynoed it all at once. Only go with the intake manifold if you are porting your heads out.

You don't have to degree any cams but if you want the most power out of them you should do it.

As for the intake, it's a good mod even if you don't port the heads as long as you go with the right cam/intake combo.

Auto or manual?

mpt_1962 01-16-2009 07:21 AM

i dont think you should try to match your intake to your cam...i think thats more of a head to match cams thing.

03gtmustang 01-16-2009 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by na svt (Post 376985)
You don't have to degree any cams but if you want the most power out of them you should do it.

As for the intake, it's a good mod even if you don't port the heads as long as you go with the right cam/intake combo.

Auto or manual?

You do need to degree some cams or you run the risk of PTV.

mpt_1962 01-16-2009 07:35 AM

VT cams are good to go though...you dont have to degree those and they havent posted an ptv issues that i've seen. I loved they way the sounded too...

na svt 01-16-2009 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by mpt_1962 (Post 376995)
i dont think you should try to match your intake to your cam...i think thats more of a head to match cams thing.

Matching the cam to the heads and intake is equally important. But in this case the heads are already a known peice of the combination. The intake type is needed to determine the LSA and LCs needed and also the duration. A stock PI headed motor with a PI intake would need completely different cams if it had an edelbrock single plane intake. I recommend the Edelbrock intake with with cams spec'd for it.

chatmanv6 01-16-2009 06:12 PM

im a manual,well maybe i just skip the intake man..and i know just cuz i hav a cam doesnt mean ill be the fasest, i just want more power. but what i said is the most im going to do besides differtn tires/rims and suspension..sounds like vt is my best choice, i wanna get around 360ish or more wit that setup and the the nos later on down the road but thats not going to be used much at all just for track..

mpt_1962 01-16-2009 10:05 PM

well all these listed below got me to 275 at the wheels...
MAC long tube headers
BBK H w/high flow cats
SLP Loudmouth 1
VT Stage 2 N/A Cams
75mm throttle body
K&N CAI
4.10's
3800 stall converter
Tuned by Greg at RET

I had alot more stuff done than that, but thats all the "performance" stuff.

chatmanv6 01-16-2009 10:56 PM

any other lil bolt-ons that im missing that i could put on the car..my goal is to run low 12s but if i cant get it with the setup i want then ohh well

na svt 01-17-2009 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by chatmanv6 (Post 377142)
im a manual,well maybe i just skip the intake man..and i know just cuz i hav a cam doesnt mean ill be the fasest, i just want more power. but what i said is the most im going to do besides differtn tires/rims and suspension..sounds like vt is my best choice, i wanna get around 360ish or more wit that setup and the the nos later on down the road but thats not going to be used much at all just for track..

VTs are not the way to go by any means. You can get more power and better driveability with some HItechs or custom ginds from many other places.

chatmanv6 01-17-2009 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by na svt (Post 377254)
VTs are not the way to go by any means. You can get more power and better driveability with some HItechs or custom ginds from many other places.

what places??im new at learning the whole cam thing

na svt 01-17-2009 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by chatmanv6 (Post 377256)
what places??im new at learning the whole cam thing

Brian at Hitech does a great job, as well as Bullet cams. I do some also (at no charge) and you can have Comp grind them for you.

03gtmustang 01-17-2009 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by na svt (Post 377261)
Brian at Hitech does a great job, as well as Bullet cams. I do some also (at no charge) and you can have Comp grind them for you.

What kind of reputation do your cams have? Sounds extremely sketchy to me.

na svt 01-17-2009 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by 03gtmustang (Post 377273)
What kind of reputation do your cams have? Sounds extremely sketchy to me.

What sounds sketchy? Custom gound cams, 5.4s needing a tighter LSA or...? I've gotten 340rwhp out of a fairly mild 2v and over 500rwhp out of a n/a, BB/stoker 4v, 380 from a mildy cammed, stock compression, B headed 4v, there are others also.

03gtmustang 01-17-2009 06:19 PM

Someone with 100 posts offering to do custom grinds for free. Just dont know who you are, never seen your user name on any of the other sites either. Hopefully you understand where Im coming from.

chatmanv6 01-17-2009 07:46 PM

bout how much does hitech cost, just curious..sounds like im going to go with that, can they grind them and what does that mean...id be happy round 340ish but with all the boltons how much u think i'll hav?

03gtmustang 01-17-2009 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by chatmanv6 (Post 377303)
bout how much does hitech cost, just curious..sounds like im going to go with that, can they grind them and what does that mean...id be happy round 340ish but with all the boltons how much u think i'll hav?

Have you tried to goolge hitech cams?

na svt 01-17-2009 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by 03gtmustang (Post 377292)
Someone with 100 posts offering to do custom grinds for free. Just dont know who you are, never seen your user name on any of the other sites either. Hopefully you understand where Im coming from.

I spend most of my time on the bigger, more tech freindly sites like Corral, Modular Fords, SVT Performance and Modular Mustang Racing Forums (where I'm a moderator) and Mach 1 Registry. Try Corral.net for some good info on 2v motors...far better than here.

na svt 01-17-2009 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by 03gtmustang (Post 377306)
Have you tried to goolge hitech cams?

Go to Hitechmotorsport.com

Also do a search on Corral for them. BTW, Comp grinds all of Hitechs cams and mine, we just tell them what lobes we want and where to place the lobe centers. I ran some of hitech's custom ginds in my first 4v motor and the results were outstanding.

03gtmustang 01-17-2009 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by na svt (Post 377307)
I spend most of my time on the bigger, more tech freindly sites like Corral, Modular Fords, SVT Performance and Modular Mustang Racing Forums (where I'm a moderator) and Mach 1 Registry. Try Corral.net for some good info on 2v motors...far better than here.

Gotcha. Im a member on all of those forums too, except the MMR forum. How long have you been doing grinds for people?

Believe me, I know the tech here is nothing special. I actually just mentioned that a couple days ago in another thread.

mpt_1962 01-18-2009 07:53 AM

wow...show some forum support

03gtmustang 01-18-2009 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by mpt_1962 (Post 377382)
wow...show some forum support

I show plenty. Ive been here for 4 years and have over 3000 posts. 99% of which have been in the tech forums helping other people.

na svt 01-19-2009 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by 03gtmustang (Post 377337)
Gotcha. Im a member on all of those forums too, except the MMR forum. How long have you been doing grinds for people?

Believe me, I know the tech here is nothing special. I actually just mentioned that a couple days ago in another thread.

I've been spec'ing cams for a few years.

I agree on the tech here, this isn't a bad site but the others are visited very often by people that race, own shops, build engines or all of the above. I think the best site for 2v info is Corral.


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