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Blue Thunder 08-07-2007 12:57 AM

DYNO RESULTS and anger!
 
Well I got a dyno today and my results are:
255HP and 298TRQ! I'm pretty damn impressed with those numbers especially the trq, but i still want to know why i can't run under a 13.9 in the quarter mile? I'm this close to sellin the stang and buying a Vette.....I drove a stock 07 vette the other night and clicked off a 12.5 bone stock....i feel like i've wasted thousands of dollars and have little to show for it. I know i need drag tires and i will order some soon, but i'm so sick of stock Camaros and other pos cars kicking my car's ass. This car is my baby and i love it and the numbers are even good.... so what's the deal with my poor track experiences? I powershift i have good reaction times and my 60 ft is decent.

MattJ 08-07-2007 05:38 AM

Sounds like you need to practice driving. I was running 13.90s with a throttlebody/plenum combo, sct xcal 2, and k&n drop in filter. I pushed it down to 13.50s with 3.90s. And after headers, midpipe, steeda CAI, I just couldnt hook anymore on my tires.

venom 08-07-2007 06:46 AM

Stop wasting money on small stuff just get a power adder and call it a day. ,*You want a 4.6l to compete with larger disp engines or the highly efficient import engines which is not going to happen. If you dont really like the mustangs styling cues just get rid of it and get something you will be happy with. I happen to like how Mustangs look so having a wimpy engine is something that I will have to deal with which is easily fixed with money spent in the right parts.

spike_africa 08-07-2007 01:51 PM

whats the stats for the best 1/4 run you have done? 60' 1/4 time/speed etc....

my car with just drag radials and mufflers and h-pipe went 13.71@101

Cheddar 08-09-2007 05:06 PM

throw boost into the mix and you will have no problem munch on vette's and camaro's (stupid camaro's)**grumbles**

nice Stang BTW venom

WaterDR 08-09-2007 07:39 PM

You just might have answered your own question when you said your car was your baby. Guys with good times generally drive it like they stole it. Some guys even drive it like they stole it from the guy he caught banging his wife. Seriously, if your car is making that much power and you have 4.10's, either you live somewhere with bad air, or it's the driver. If cars are passing you that you should be beating, then you already know the answer.

I am not trying to bash you. When my car was n/a and had 4.10's, I took it to the track and ran 14.3. I let a friend drive it and he ran a 13.8. My 60 foot time was better, but he apparently ripped through the gears much better then I did. It is a hrad thing to admit, but if you happen to have the "I am the best driver in the world attitude" you will never learn (I am not saying that you do, just making a point).

Take 2003/2004 Cobras for example. I have seen guys run 12.3 stock and I have seen guys run 13.8. They are especially hard to drive and launch and when guys treat them like the first girl they poked, well then, you end up with 13.8's.

Bottom line, you might sell it for a Vette, but you may end up just bitching because some guy in a Mustang beat you who really hates his car.

So, repeat after me 30 times before you go at the track the next time:

"I hate my car, I hate my , I hate my car......." and your times will probably improve.

If my advice is misdirected and you already do this, then I apologize and I hope to not offend. Maybe you need to pull some weight.

BTW, what was your trap speed? That will tell us if you are making the power that the dyno says you are. These cars have a lot of potential if they are set up right and driven like crazy. We have a guy here with an auto, no power adder, and he runs 12.9's.

jeredan2003 08-09-2007 08:06 PM

seriously just get you a nice n20 kit.....it will turn your car into an animal....

stage2roush2002 08-11-2007 01:56 PM

Mustangs have so much more potential than vettes. Don't do it.

chatmanv6 08-11-2007 02:36 PM

how do you only have 255hp? I thought 99-04's had 265 stock...

MattJ 08-11-2007 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by stage2roush2002 (Post 282873)
Mustangs have so much more potential than vettes. Don't do it.

Pushrods respond a lot better to modifications than a modular motor will. You install mods on both cars, and the vette will see a greater percentage than the modular motor will.

4.6 Love 08-11-2007 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by stage2roush2002 (Post 282873)
Mustangs have so much more potential than vettes. Don't do it.

Lmgdao....

mcmmotorsports 08-11-2007 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Blue Thunder (Post 282058)
my 60 ft is decent.

What do you call decent? Anything more than 2.00 is NOT decent.
Sub 2 second 60ft times are the key to a good E.T.

NeedACobra 08-11-2007 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by chatmanv6 (Post 282876)
how do you only have 255hp? I thought 99-04's had 265 stock...

Uhm, correct me if IM wrong but I thought that the 99-04 GT's have 225hp?

mcmmotorsports 08-11-2007 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by chatmanv6 (Post 282876)
how do you only have 255hp? I thought 99-04's had 265 stock...

They have 265 to the crank and around 225-227 to the wheels.


Originally Posted by NeedACobra (Post 282896)
Uhm, correct me if IM wrong but I thought that the 99-04 GT's have 225hp?

See above.

NeedACobra 08-11-2007 04:46 PM

seems like Ford could have done a little better with those numbers, but I guess thats what they made the cobra for.

MattJ 08-11-2007 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by NeedACobra (Post 282899)
seems like Ford could have done a little better with those numbers, but I guess thats what they made the cobra for.

Mustang is a budget sports car. More power is more money. Thats why they have the cobra, or the ford GT if you really got some cash.

NeedACobra 08-11-2007 09:27 PM

Mmmm..that Ford GT sure is nice. Its too bad I dont have that kinda money though.

Didnt ford make a cobra with like..385hp?

mcmmotorsports 08-12-2007 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by NeedACobra (Post 282951)
Mmmm..that Ford GT sure is nice. Its too bad I dont have that kinda money though.

Didnt ford make a cobra with like..385hp?

03,04 Cobra's were "Factory Rated" at 390 HP. Many were much higher.

chatmanv6 08-12-2007 06:43 AM

they should make the gts with the 5.4 engine wit 350ish hp and them make the Cobra wit a 6 point something wit 500ish hp...but u r right they are a budget car

Lances03SVT 08-12-2007 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by MattJ (Post 282937)
Mustang is a budget sports car. More power is more money. Thats why they have the cobra, or the ford GT if you really got some cash.

For the prices they are charging for the S197's they should have alot more HP.For as basic as a Mustang is it should have more power stock from the factory.

Hell my Truck has a nicer interior and loaded with option's with 315hp and 338tq and after rebate's I got it for $28,500.

And now the Challenger AND the Camaro is about to come out with more HP too WTF!

venom 08-12-2007 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by NeedACobra (Post 282951)
Mmmm..that Ford GT sure is nice. Its too bad I dont have that kinda money though.

Didnt ford make a cobra with like..385hp?

2000 Cobra R.

stage2roush2002 08-12-2007 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by MattJ (Post 282884)
Pushrods respond a lot better to modifications than a modular motor will. You install mods on both cars, and the vette will see a greater percentage than the modular motor will.

Yeah but vette parts are so much more expensive.

mcmmotorsports 08-12-2007 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Lances03SVT (Post 282967)
And now the Challenger AND the Camaro is about to come out with more HP too WTF!

Are those your choices when you sell your truck next year? :salook:

jjmustang04 08-12-2007 09:47 AM

I have 2004, and it has 265 to the crank and about 225 to the wheels. I think he is saying that he has 255 to the wheels after his modifications.

jeredan2003 08-12-2007 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by mcmmotorsports (Post 282898)
They have 265 to the crank and around 225-227 to the wheels.



See above.

no they have 260 @ the crank....

mcmmotorsports 08-12-2007 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by jeredan2003 (Post 282992)
no they have 260 @ the crank....

Yeah, that too.

Codiddy 08-12-2007 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Lances03SVT (Post 282967)
For the prices they are charging for the S197's they should have alot more HP.For as basic as a Mustang is it should have more power stock from the factory.

Hell my Truck has a nicer interior and loaded with option's with 315hp and 338tq and after rebate's I got it for $28,500.

And now the Challenger AND the Camaro is about to come out with more HP too WTF!

but you're forgetting that the mustangs are going to get a bump in power for the 2009 model year so they can try to compete

MattJ 08-12-2007 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by jeredan2003 (Post 282992)
no they have 260 @ the crank....

Each engine has a different horsepower rating. Some more than 260 and some less, but most of them fall pretty close to that number.

mcmmotorsports 08-12-2007 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Codiddy (Post 283014)
but you're forgetting that the mustangs are going to get a bump in power for the 2009 model year so they can try to compete

Emphasis on the word TRY please. Ford always likes to play catch up. :shakeno:

MattJ 08-12-2007 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by mcmmotorsports (Post 283047)
Emphasis on the word TRY please. Ford always likes to play catch up. :shakeno:

dont expect to see anything to fancy. They cant compete with their current line-up and beat their fastest most expensive car with an affordable one.
Considerig the GT is now gone, they will have to be somewhere between the GT500 and the mustang gt.

Blue Thunder 08-12-2007 11:51 PM

Well let me clear this up...sorry been outta town. I have those numbers @ the wheels with my mods. Now i know i need drag tires to make this work but i figured i should @ least be in the 13's!?!?! My 60ft is 2.1 my reation time is .547 my trap speed is roughly 105-109. I powershift from 3rd to 4th and speedshift 1st to second. I shift pretty damn fast. WTF is going on...i know my 60 ft needs help, but i don't know what else to do!?!?! I've done every lil suspension mod i can think of and i launch at 1800-2500rpms. I've tried higher and i spin all to hell. THis is getting ridiculous!

R3dFire02 08-13-2007 03:50 AM

I am by no means an expert, but sounds like a case of needing to find an abandoned road and practicing launches. 2.1 60ft could use help.

mcmmotorsports 08-13-2007 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by R3dFire02 (Post 283131)
I am by no means an expert, but sounds like a case of needing to find an abandoned road and practicing launches. 2.1 60ft could use help.

http://www.mcmmotorsports.com/smilies/iagree.gif
Yup, that is your problem....watch your e.t.'s drop with a 1.8 or even a 1.9 60ft.

Blue Thunder 08-13-2007 10:33 PM

:nunu: Well does anyone wanna tell me how i should be launching?!?!?! huh someone f$#@in tell me what i'm not doing right cuz i've tried all sorts of shit and nothing works!!!!

PureStang 08-13-2007 11:16 PM

i have no idea what the problem with your car is but ive been having horrible 60' times (2.1) and still pulling a 13.88 @ 101 mph mods were 4.10s, xcal2 for speedo correction, slp lm, slp catted x, crappy econo tires launching from idle.

when i first took my car to the track, hurst short throw, slp lm catback and stock good year tires i pulled a 13.9 @ 101 with a 2.2 60'

:dunno:

Samsstang 08-14-2007 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Blue Thunder (Post 283120)
Well let me clear this up...sorry been outta town. I have those numbers @ the wheels with my mods. Now i know i need drag tires to make this work but i figured i should @ least be in the 13's!?!?! My 60ft is 2.1 my reation time is .547 my trap speed is roughly 105-109. I powershift from 3rd to 4th and speedshift 1st to second. I shift pretty damn fast. WTF is going on...i know my 60 ft needs help, but i don't know what else to do!?!?! I've done every lil suspension mod i can think of and i launch at 1800-2500rpms. I've tried higher and i spin all to hell. THis is getting ridiculous!

Man i dont know what to say? 255hp & 298rwtq. and your trap speed is 105-109 mph with that mph thats 12sec range? I have just about the same mods as you.
My car put down 251hp & 289rwtq N/A, my best was 14.1 @ 96.6mph @ an altitude of 5000ft. but mid 14s is norm no power shifting at ALL.
w/100 shot DRY my best is 12.5 @ 110mph Ive ran many 12.6s - 12.8s @ 105-107mph.
Its hard to tell what the problem could be? cause there are so many variables. I have a buddy that was dynoed @ 260ish and 305tq and couldnt break a 13 :shakeno:

mpt_1962 08-24-2007 09:53 PM

are you guys taking "elevation" into effect here? I run a 14.2 on the west coast at 2800 ft above sea level but a 13.6 in orlando, FL

LT1RUNNER 09-07-2007 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by stage2roush2002 (Post 278442)
Mustangs have so much more potential than vettes. Don't do it.

WTF?

LT1RUNNER 09-07-2007 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by Blue Thunder (Post 277653)
Well I got a dyno today and my results are:
255HP and 298TRQ! I'm pretty damn impressed with those numbers especially the trq, but i still want to know why i can't run under a 13.9 in the quarter mile? I'm this close to sellin the stang and buying a Vette.....I drove a stock 07 vette the other night and clicked off a 12.5 bone stock....i feel like i've wasted thousands of dollars and have little to show for it. I know i need drag tires and i will order some soon, but i'm so sick of stock Camaros and other pos cars kicking my car's ass. This car is my baby and i love it and the numbers are even good.... so what's the deal with my poor track experiences? I powershift i have good reaction times and my 60 ft is decent.

Well then get the Vette. That car will get into the 12's everytime although that will be the more expensive approach. Put a sc on the car.

spike_africa 09-07-2007 07:04 PM

how can you trap 105-109 with that little bit of power?

Regardles your 60' sucks, and im sure your loosing time on the shifts with the tires spinning.
If you seriusly wanna go fast its time ot get a decent set of rear rims (15" is best) and a good Drag radial or slick. Also you should power shift every gear to go as fast as possible. Other then that without actuly seeing you drive and say you need to work on the 60' we cant do much for ya.


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