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Atalien 11-06-2006 11:54 AM

Long Block
 
Wasup guys I just had a qucik question. If I want a long block from Vt which one should I get for a dd? Right now I'm looking at the GT 302 Stroker Pro (Billet) which will cost me $8095. Is that a good choice?

thanks

r3dn3ck 11-06-2006 12:13 PM

year car, how you'll use it, etc.. make with the info.

Ghostalker 11-06-2006 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 220822)
year car, how you'll use it, etc.. make with the info.

r3d grows weary of your mortal foolishness, comply!

r3dn3ck 11-06-2006 12:41 PM

he's picked the single most expensive setup they have for his daily driver. I'm positive we're missing some info.

So how you gunna justify billet rods? They ain't bling man... you can't even see em. I'm going to assume that since it's a DD you're not running 30lbs of boost so billet rods are a little much.

Just get a forged sportsman with stage 2 heads and a canton pan. If you need to spend more money go with a GT302 forged sportsman and the extras mentioned earlier.

Atalien 11-06-2006 03:29 PM

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I am sorry master, forgive me for my foolishness.

Lol, naw bro thanks for the help. Its a 04 Gt and its going to be a dd. I'm also going to slap on a novi in the future. Do you think MMR www.modularmustangracing.com would be a better choice.They seem to have better prices and descriptions. Oh and sorry for my newbness but you mean that the billet option is just bling?

Thanks again

r3dn3ck 11-06-2006 03:35 PM

Take the MMR900 and put whatever boost you want into it. If VT is closer then their forged sportsman is good option. Just make sure whatever you get to go ahead and pop for the 8 bolt forged crank. A novi2000 at 16psi would be just as at home on either as a novi1000 and 6psi. What kind of power are you ready to try and reign in? (Be realistic.... a 600hp car is a BITCH to daily drive)

Atalien 11-06-2006 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 220894)
Take the MMR900 and put whatever boost you want into it. If VT is closer then their forged sportsman is good option. Just make sure whatever you get to go ahead and pop for the 8 bolt forged crank. A novi2000 at 16psi would be just as at home on either as a novi1000 and 6psi. What kind of power are you ready to try and reign in? (Be realistic.... a 600hp car is a BITCH to daily drive)

Your right, it would be a bitch. I guess 600 would be my max output. Do you think I should go for the stroker option? Oh and the 900 already comes with a forged crank.

StangGT804 11-06-2006 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 220894)
Take the MMR900 and put whatever boost you want into it. If VT is closer then their forged sportsman is good option. Just make sure whatever you get to go ahead and pop for the 8 bolt forged crank. A novi2000 at 16psi would be just as at home on either as a novi1000 and 6psi. What kind of power are you ready to try and reign in? (Be realistic.... a 600hp car is a BITCH to daily drive)

why would it be a hard to drive a 600hp dd???

r3dn3ck 11-07-2006 06:32 AM

600hp is a lot of power. putting that down on the barely useable roads throughout the country and having it be smooth and safe is hard. I've driven dozens of 600+rwhp cars on the street and they really do require a LOT more attention be paid to them. You can't just get in and drive it. You really have to pilot it. You end up granny shifting and not enjoying the power you have as often so it's more effort than it ends up being worth.

I'm of the opinion that appreciably more than 500rwhp becomes unweildy on the street. It's more effort than it's worth to reign it in and still try and have fun with it. The realistic side is, most of us like to feel the power from every stoplight and losing traction/control because you had too much power becomes a real issue when the power levels become insane.

StangGT804 11-07-2006 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 221118)
600hp is a lot of power. putting that down on the barely useable roads throughout the country and having it be smooth and safe is hard. I've driven dozens of 600+rwhp cars on the street and they really do require a LOT more attention be paid to them. You can't just get in and drive it. You really have to pilot it. You end up granny shifting and not enjoying the power you have as often so it's more effort than it ends up being worth.

I'm of the opinion that appreciably more than 500rwhp becomes unweildy on the street. It's more effort than it's worth to reign it in and still try and have fun with it. The realistic side is, most of us like to feel the power from every stoplight and losing traction/control because you had too much power becomes a real issue when the power levels become insane.

thanks for clearing that up! maybe i should get the feel of a 600+hp car!

r3dn3ck 11-07-2006 09:31 AM

it sneaks up on you. definitely something that needs to be considered before being actually done.

StangGT804 11-07-2006 09:38 AM

got me thinking if i should even buy a power adder in the future. or should i just stay n/a and bolt everything up! how much max hp can a n/a stang with no nos added get?? whats the most uve seen??

r3dn3ck 11-07-2006 09:46 AM

the most NA I've seen doesn't matter (about 325rwhp in person). You'll never spend that much money for so little power.

A blower is a great thing for a mustang. It makes a quick car authentically fast and that's why we drive these right? Just keep it reasonable. You're going to have to take steps to get to whatever power level you'll find you want so go ahead and get a blower, and if you've got the money get a built block and all the goodies. But after you pass 450rwhp, start asking yourself with each bump in power if you're making the car any more fun or useful than it was or if you've just got dyno-racing fever. Also ask yourself if the effort of piloting your street rocket is more than the amount of fun justifies.

I'm usually a pretty happy chappy with enough power to keep my money in the $100 challenge.

El Diablo 11-07-2006 06:14 PM

No such thing as too much power...:salook:


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