Stage 2 N/A Cams -= CSLEDD!
 

Ok, first off, CSledd if your round here I'm sure you can help out since I know you're doing this. Also we have similar cars with the exhaust set up.

Anyways, I was talking with my tuner today and instead of diong 75mmTB/Plenum, JLT RAI, Saleen U/D pulleys, (which would be approximately 950) I might just do cams.

If I do stage 2 N/A cams what else do I need to get and any companies recommended?

Do i need valves? springs? rockers???? all the little things.
I'm thinking VT stage 2, but thats yet to be determined.

With my mods (full exhaust, bbk cai, and will have it tuned afterwards) what kinda of gains would I see to the wheels? Remember I am an auto.

$950 for THOSE mods is outrageous. You can do the CAI, TB and plenum yourself in about an hour in your driveway with nothing more than a screwdriver and 5/16 wrench or socket. I've never done U/D pulleys but I know Steeda's aren't that incredibly expensive and I can't see them taking more than 2 hours to put on unless you don't have the right tools. You can get a brand new JLT for $200, FRPP TB & Plenum for right about $300 and I think the U/D pulleys are $150ish. If your tuner quoted you that much for that work, I'd be looking for another tuner because he's charging some ridiculous rates.

For the VT stage 2's and also for Comp 262's and higher valve springs are at least strongly recommended, there's no point in not doing them since you're already going to be under the valve covers anyway. Rockers are always something to at least consider when changing cams, but don't go outrageous on the ratio, remember piston to valve clearance isn't that great on these motors from the factory.

The rates I came up with myself
75mm Accufab Tb/Plenum: 430
SALEEN U/D pulleys: 240
JLT RAI custom paint to white: 180
COST: 850 all installed myself. The only thing I would have installed if I couldnt would be the pulleys, so for safe betting we'll say thats 50 bux for a total of 900 dollars. So I was close.

With an experienced installer with 4.6 engines, how long would it take someone to swap out cam and valve springs? (doing it right, taking time, etc)

I was quoted 5.5hours for my 02 from a very good shop in my area... depends on what year car you have though if i can remember right 99-2000 4.6's have pressed on timing pullies which means that the whole front timing cover would have to be removed and bump the time up to 9 hours...I also work at a small shop and looked the time on Alldata and for my 02 the listed time is 7 hours i beleive so.... look to spend a decent amount on labor and a tune.

Well I got free tunes on the car, so thats not a problem :D

I guess plan on about 400 for install then

a local guy with a 02 gt 5 speed with 75mm accufab tb and plenum, ud pullies, jlt cai, vt stage 2 cams and comp springs, bbk long tubes, dr. gas or x pipe, flowmaster catback and a tune was 307hp and i dont remember the tq numbers

If I did all that I would hope for 285RWHP, I'm an auto.

Im at 262rwhp 281rwtq SAE. Thats also with a high stall and 4.10's. Well see what my #'s are after my retune by Ed Clark in May.

Ok, after doing some looking, I might just go with Stage 1.

Reasons:
1.) They say you need a 2800 stall or higher
2.) Need springs (which isnt a problem, just extra money)
3.) I wasn't to fond of the rough idle. I heard a clip at idle that was supposedly stock, and didnt care for it.

I think the Stage 1 N/A would be good for me, add some power, not that rough idle, wont need new springs, and also can be used with stock stall.

03gtmustang..... You got any vids with ur cams?

the lope is what makes the stage 2's so nice!!!

GET THE STAGE 2'S!!!!

plus a stall is always a good thing for an auto, i'm sure you would enjoy that too

The thing is my car is my daily, and will be for the next 2-3 years. I don't want that super radical lopey sound. I mean I do, just not radical.

The stage 1s are becoming more and more promising. I'm anxious to see how CSledd's car sounds.

I probably will have to hold up on the stall for now, too many other things going on.

Dont mean 2 steal the thread but i think i want to go same route but i dont know a lot about cams

can someone tell how much it would cost for all parts needed for stage 1 and stage 2 so i can compare also how much to get it installed and tuned
thank you i kno i suck at life

$595for the cams(stage 1 or 2 is the same price) springs are $180(only needed if you run the stage 2's . might need a camgear kit depending on the year of the car. then you can add install and tune

Man for $130 less you can get a BBK 75mm & C&L plenum.
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv8asp.htm

The car is being turned into a show car. When cams are done I'm getting custom valve covers painted white. I want the accufab for the show and the polished finish. Also Accufab I know I won't have problems with, I've heard of slight problems with BBK (although rare).

As far as stage one cams I think I can have them purchases and installed for under 1K. Hopefully with a tune I should be around 260-265RWHP. Add on the Tb/Plenum, and JLT RAI maybe maybe 275RWHP. Not bad for an auto.

what problem could a plenum create.

Not the plenum, the TB.

Im not saying I wouldnt get it, I would jump on them both in a heartbeat, I think BBK makes very solid parts overall.

It's just for my application/goals I want the look of the polished finish.

Check out my site for some clips, www.dndgarage.net. The idle really isnt that rough, I love it. Mine is a DD and I dont really have any complaints. I also have a 3500 stall.

Yea, I was searching around the internet and actually found a clip of your car from long time ago when you first got them. It's still a little rough for my taste I think.

I just think its gonna be more reasonable for me to get the stage 1's. I won't need new springs and the stock stall will be fine.

Between the stage 1s and 2s with a stock stall I dont think there is a big enough difference in power for me to go ahead with the 2's.

Either one will be a good choice and should give you about 20rwhp including a tune. The main difference between the two is the idle.

Is that it???? just the idle? If thats the case I will undoubtedly get stage 1s.
I also have the full exhaust, so I'm sure that will make the stage 2's and even 1s idle sound a little more lopey.

So you think with full exhaust I would put down about 20RWHP with stage 1 VT cams through stock auto?