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Old 11-02-2005 | 05:05 PM
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Just wondering if anyone had seem this yet. Shelby working with ford in producing a 350hp supercharged V6 mustang in '06.


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Old 11-02-2005 | 05:21 PM
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nope havent herd anythign about that yet but it sounds from that article that the car will be sickl and looks good from that one pic and i like the idea of a stock s\c v6 with 350+ hp
 
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Old 11-02-2005 | 05:23 PM
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Sounds like they are just tring to make some extra cash by slapping GT-350 on it...
 
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Old 11-02-2005 | 07:06 PM
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Wow, even that v6 is going to be impressive. those are great numbers.
 
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Old 11-02-2005 | 07:35 PM
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What a frigging joke. If Shelby is putting a GT-350 badge on a 6, then he really is an old ****. Holy crap! I hope that was a joke.

At one point I heard the GT-350 was gonna be the same as the GT-500 less the blower, but not this ricer crap.

Look, nothing against a 6'er....but 6'ers are not nor should they be Shelbys.
 
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Old 11-02-2005 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!
What a frigging joke. If Shelby is putting a GT-350 badge on a 6, then he really is an old ****. Holy crap! I hope that was a joke.

At one point I heard the GT-350 was gonna be the same as the GT-500 less the blower, but not this ricer crap.

Look, nothing against a 6'er....but 6'ers are not nor should they be Shelbys.

Ehh, idk about all that, what do you think the new shelby's are...a normal V8 with a Shelby badge...i think it's nice...remember there are 65% more 6 bangers out there then V8's and recently with the new tech, GT's are guna have to watch their back on 6'ers...thats a great setup...350 hp for less then a GT is amazing...i think the reason we haven't seen a whole lot of faster v6's is because of the money, people by the V8's if they wana race, but the normal guyz with low budgets haven';t been able to put as much money in their 6'ers, now the time has come, and i think it's guna SELL! also might even bring over a few ricers who think the GT is too heavy and not agil enough...(a concern i've thought about at moment also...)
 
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Old 11-02-2005 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by slappy
From what i see, they dont plan on calling it a GT350, they plan on calling it the Mustang CS6. It just compares it to the Gt350 in handling and power. They dont call it a GT350 anywhere

Personally i think it kicks *** they are willing to do something like this with a V6.
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Old 11-02-2005 | 08:48 PM
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eh id rather have the gt500 and pull a pully, computer reprogrammer, and full exhaust and put down 80 to the wheels.
 
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Old 11-02-2005 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MattJ
eh id rather have the gt500 and pull a pully, computer reprogrammer, and full exhaust and put down 80 to the wheels.

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Old 11-02-2005 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Grimmz
Ehh, idk about all that, what do you think the new shelby's are...a normal V8 with a Shelby badge...i think it's nice...remember there are 65% more 6 bangers out there then V8's and recently with the new tech, GT's are guna have to watch their back on 6'ers...thats a great setup...350 hp for less then a GT is amazing...i think the reason we haven't seen a whole lot of faster v6's is because of the money, people by the V8's if they wana race, but the normal guyz with low budgets haven';t been able to put as much money in their 6'ers, now the time has come, and i think it's guna SELL! also might even bring over a few ricers who think the GT is too heavy and not agil enough...(a concern i've thought about at moment also...)
You mean to tell me someone would spend this much money on this car when they could spend less and get a one year old GT? I can already here the posts now:

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"Hey guys, check out my new CS6"

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"Should have got a GT"

You know I speak the truth.

The day Ford starts making performance 6'ers is the day I would never buy a Mustang. This would be a marketing dissaster. I am telling you, if Ford does this, it is to capture the Ricer crowd...nothing more. That means Ricer features and ricer options on a car like this. You don't cut your nose off despite your face.

Why don't they just go all the way and make it a FWD? That would make the car perfect.

In case you guys have forgetten, Ford tried this once before and it was a bomb. It was a 4 banger with a SC. The car sucked and never sold. Ford did it to have a car perform like an 8, but get the fuel economy of a 4...the car achieved neither goal.

If Ford wants to make a blown 6, do it on another platform....don't ruin your bread and butter line.

I guess Chevy should make a V-6 Vette.
 
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Old 11-02-2005 | 10:20 PM
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there goes the GT sales...
 
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Old 11-02-2005 | 10:25 PM
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Yup...for a 6'er vette - LOL
 
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Old 11-02-2005 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!
You mean to tell me someone would spend this much money on this car when they could spend less and get a one year old GT? I can already here the posts now:

Member: NewStangDude
"Hey guys, check out my new CS6"

Member: SpringStang
"Should have got a GT"

You know I speak the truth.

The day Ford starts making performance 6'ers is the day I would never buy a Mustang. This would be a marketing dissaster. I am telling you, if Ford does this, it is to capture the Ricer crowd...nothing more. That means Ricer features and ricer options on a car like this. You don't cut your nose off despite your face.

Why don't they just go all the way and make it a FWD? That would make the car perfect.

In case you guys have forgetten, Ford tried this once before and it was a bomb. It was a 4 banger with a SC. The car sucked and never sold. Ford did it to have a car perform like an 8, but get the fuel economy of a 4...the car achieved neither goal.

If Ford wants to make a blown 6, do it on another platform....don't ruin your bread and butter line.

Sounds like your a lil worried about a 6banger beatin you...and 50 hp his a big difference, and right now In the DC area your 05 GT's are goin for 4-5 over market price...

It would ruin their line if they didn't make the GT's and V8's...but this is just another option..stop cryin about a car that will beat your V8...you don't even know how much it will cost...6 bangers are cheaper, and the difference bt 300hp and 350+ hp is well worth it for some people...

Alota you V8 guyz are the reason i don't wana sell my V6 and get a GT...the novelty of my V6 pullin away from someone with a GT with the same amount of money spent all around is great to me...why can't you save your hatred for smaller engines for Ricers, not fellow mustang owners...

Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!
I guess Chevy should make a V-6 Vette.
Yeah cuz it's a huge leap to go from the NUmber one selling sports car in the US...yeah NOT YOUR GT...my V6....and add a super charger for those people out there that might want a little more pep in their engine...you surprise me...i'd think you'd be more rational about this...
 
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Old 11-03-2005 | 12:04 AM
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I highly doubt that car willl be produced. I cant ever remember a production car with a factory, aftermarket centi blower on it. Well not since the factory Paxton cars of the 60's. Its not a bad idea, but they better add some oats to the GT for 07. Also, must ditch the Snake emblem on the side of the car.
 
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Old 11-03-2005 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Grimmz
Sounds like your a lil worried about a 6banger beatin you...and 50 hp his a big difference, and right now In the DC area your 05 GT's are goin for 4-5 over market price...

It would ruin their line if they didn't make the GT's and V8's...but this is just another option..stop cryin about a car that will beat your V8...you don't even know how much it will cost...6 bangers are cheaper, and the difference bt 300hp and 350+ hp is well worth it for some people...

Alota you V8 guyz are the reason i don't wana sell my V6 and get a GT...the novelty of my V6 pullin away from someone with a GT with the same amount of money spent all around is great to me...why can't you save your hatred for smaller engines for Ricers, not fellow mustang owners...

Yeah cuz it's a huge leap to go from the NUmber one selling sports car in the US...yeah NOT YOUR GT...my V6....and add a super charger for those people out there that might want a little more pep in their engine...you surprise me...i'd think you'd be more rational about this...
I really could care less about any car beating me no matter how many cylinders it has. I don't street race so I would never find out. But since you brouth it up, any blown 6 putting down 350 hp would not necessarily beat the same car n/a with less hp due to the difference in where the power is, but that is a discussion for another day.

If you did beat me with your 6 banger, rest assured I would give you a "high five." As you deserve the credit. Those that know me, wuld know this statement to be true.

While the sales success of the V-6 Mustang is legendary by any determination, it would never sell the way it does were it not for the GT. For that matter, V-6 stangs sell better also as a result of the SVT models. Even if Ford never made one penny of profit on SVT, they know that these high-end cars have a direct impact on sales for lower branded cars.

Also, I would say that the majority of everyone that owns a 6'er would have rather gotten an 8, but didn't for various reasons, ususally cost or insuarance etc. And don't forget about many of them who just don't care about performance at all. The novilty of your car pulling on a GT I am sure is quite fun, much like when I beat a Vette a few summers ago at the track, not once but twice in a row.

When Shelby was asked in 1966/7 to build a high peformance, track ready car out of the Mustang, he thought Ford was crazy. Keep in mind that in the first 18 months of production, Ford sold 1,000,000 Mustangs. These are insane numbers! Most of them were V-6's. Shelby thought the idea of turning a "secretaries car" as he called it, into a race car was a rediculous notion, but he did it anyway.

It took 40 years to see the benefit for that decision completely. Today, Ford is going into their second year of production for a model that will probably sell 350,000 cars in these two years....again most will be V-6's. But, these sales would never been possible had it not been for that little secretaries car AND Carroll Shelby starting a legend...a legend that he never dreamed of comming true.

Let the truth be known, that only history will tell us if Ford will build this GT-350 the way they show it. It is no doubt nothing more then an attempt to throw it out there and see what people think to gauge interest. This is nothing more then marketing 101.

But lets not forget the failures that other companies have made by misinterpreting results of marketing studies that almost ended their brands. In 1985 Coke changed their formula because studies showed that they needed to keep up with the new generation, but the results were abmissmal. Today Coke by their own estimates has lost 2- 3% permanent market share that they will never get back because they lost their "pundants".

If Ford moves in the direction with high performance V-6 models, I fear they will loose their Mustang pundants.

While it may seem I have my painties in a wad over this, I really don't. No sense crying over nothing and like Jack Roush often says "I never saw a Mustang I never liked". Which is an amazing statement if you have ever seen a 1975 Stang. But, I still share his sentiments and no doubt will for an eternity.

Ford has resisted many temptations over the years with the Mustang to kill it, but has also made some misstakes. In the end, the V-6 and the GT have a symbiotic relationship. They both need eachother!

Saying that I have hatred for any stang owner, was a wrong comment, but one that I deserved. I have no hate for any stang owner and have a great deal of respect for all the guys around here who toil over their passion for Mustangs....a passion we all share.

"I never saw a Mustang I never liked". Now Ford, help me to keep it that way.
 
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Old 11-03-2005 | 06:50 AM
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The Idea Of A Six Banger Having A Stock Super Charger In A Mustang And With The Looks Of That Car Its Amazing Looking. Also They Put A Borla Exhaust On It And All Suspension Upgrades Im Def Buying One Used In 07
 
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Old 11-03-2005 | 07:09 AM
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Im gunna have to go with blake on this one. Ford would be STUPID to bring a car like that into its line. Most people buy a v6 for the gas mileage, and the lower insurance that the GT, but still share the same "look" of driving a mustang. Most of the owners could give two craps about a supercharged, 350 hp, gas guzzling, insurance raising v6, when all they want is a sporty, reliable, good looking cruiser. If they want 300 hp, buy the GT, or buy the Vortech kit ( Paxton, w/e) and make their own v6 have that power, but I feel that Ford wouldnt move enough of these cars to make their money back. Think of the reliability issues, the warranty claims, and all the other assorted BS of this kinda car. JMO, but I think the idea STINKS. If you want a supercharger, you may as well buy the new gt500, because your insurance is going to blow whether its a 400hp v8, or a 350hp v6. They dont care, they just see a high hp number. My 2 cents for the day.
 
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Old 11-03-2005 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Grimmz

Yeah cuz it's a huge leap to go from the NUmber one selling sports car in the US...yeah NOT YOUR GT...my V6....and add a super charger for those people out there that might want a little more pep in their engine...you surprise me...i'd think you'd be more rational about this...
And it is the #1 why? COST! You wont see the supercharged 6 as the lost leader special in the newspaper for 13k. A supercharged 6 will probably bring the cost up above GT territory... more power or not most people won't buy it.
 
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Old 11-03-2005 | 07:25 AM
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I've pretty much found out the no, this WILL NOT be a normal production car. It will be a limited run just as the gt500. It's a super specialty, not like a common '03'-'04 cobra. This car will be one of the super rare mustangs I'm presuming.

Finally, it WILL NOT be cheap lol. Getting an additional 140hp out of their 4.0L v6 isn't easy heh (that is if they don't use the new 4.2L or 4.5L).

Edit: This car will most likely be pushing low 30k's... I would assume...
 
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Old 11-03-2005 | 07:25 AM
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One thing that I can never understand is why it cost less for the average Joe to buy and install a SC, then companies generally add for these things when put on as options. You see it on the tuner cars all the time, hard to tell with mass-produced cars, because the SC usually come with other options at the same time.
 
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Old 11-03-2005 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by IceMan
I've pretty much found out the no, this WILL NOT be a normal production car. It will be a limited run just as the gt500. It's a super specialty, not like a common '03'-'04 cobra. This car will be one of the super rare mustangs I'm presuming.

Finally, it WILL NOT be cheap lol. Getting an additional 140hp out of their 4.0L v6 isn't easy heh (that is if they don't use the new 4.2L or 4.5L).

Edit: This car will most likely be pushing low 30k's... I would assume...

Idk where you guyz live and all but in DC...aka rich people with money to spend, my dad and i just say a GT with a CDC hood for 32k...so if your going dollar for dollar the extra 50 hp and increased handling is worth much more then the small price gap...and yea this isn't guna be something big like the cobra's...it's guna be a small special edition...so those few people who want the v6 will be able to get it...

As far as one mustang haveing 50 hp over another and not being faster....that may work with different cars...but the same hp in a lighter mustang is always guna come out ahead...so your math has to be wrong...
 
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Old 11-03-2005 | 10:03 AM
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It's hp, but area under the power curve.
 
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Old 11-03-2005 | 10:34 AM
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i dont know why all of you guys with gt's are trippin out....the whole idea behind this is a limited run, like people already said, of a special edition mustang....this is not going to kill sales of GT's at all and in fact will probably help more than hurt....that said...I'm sure ford in their infinite wisdom will have something bigger and better up their sleeve for the v8 fans...its just a matter of time untill the come up with something else...
 
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Old 11-03-2005 | 10:44 AM
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I also agree with blake.....I honestly hope Ford doesn't produce this car, personally I don't think they should produce "special" v-6's. It's almost like Ford wants to get into the "ricer" circle with this car and if that's the case then my mach 1 will be the last stang I ever buy, and I've purchased 4 mustangs from Ford so far.
 
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Old 11-03-2005 | 11:02 AM
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remember there are 65% more 6 bangers out there then V8's and recently with the new tech, GT's are guna have to watch their back on 6'ers...
And where did you pull this statistic from, your ***?
 
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Old 11-03-2005 | 11:27 AM
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And where did you pull this statistic from, your ***?
It's more common knowledge...show me another figure that shows more V8's sold then V6's and I will personally laugh in your face...I read it in a motor trend a couple months back, they had all the statistics....it's the one with the cover of the red 05' mustang last year...i'd find the link but I don't know how to find stuff in a magazine...

Again stop trippin out...you guyz paid your extra couple grand for your GT or CObras...big woop...stop hatin on a V6 car just cuz it's guna be nicer then yours...thats the bottom line...stop bitchin about nothin, yeah your v8 is a nice car, so what if Ford makes a new V6....but then again you always gotta be better then everyone right?...
 
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Old 11-03-2005 | 11:33 AM
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But thats what you dont understand Grimmz, we arent tripping out because the car is nicer, we are tripping out because ford is going to hurt themselves even more to bring a car like this out. For comparison, its like the Dodge SRT10 Truck. Great Idea, but who the hell wants a 500 hp , 8mpg truck. No one. Youre acting like a child, no one is here to bash your v6's, we are just giving you our opinion, dont let it get bigger than that.
 



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