Um... no. The 5770 is better than the 4850.

 

Not even close. Maybe spec wise, according to the their website, but you are buying substandard parts that are cheaply made. So if you take two systems spec wise and bencmark them, the results will be different for the dell compared to an aftermarket built one.

Also with the higher quality parts you get more options. Mainly overclocking and stability. Although in all fairness its mainly just the motherboards and power supplies that are cheap. Funny enough the two most important parts.

Yes you will pay more for a custom built computer because of the higher quality parts. As they say, you get what you pay for. Also its not HARD to build a computer, however it might be daunting to somoene who has never done it. BUT they make the parts in such a way that, they only fit in one way ..... you cant **** it up. Or its hard to.

The motherboard is the most important piece. Once that is screwed into the case, everything else falls into place. The second 'hardest' part is the CPU. Just make sure to apply the thermal past correctly and it wont be an issue. Again the cpu can only fit in one way and it even has arrows on the socket and CPU.

Memory, graphics card, and power supply all only go in one way and its appearent.

 

Pretty much. Your powersupply is arguably as important, but going with a well known name, and with something that has good reviews you're generally fine.

When I first built mine I read about all these people breaking the pins on the cpu and crap..after I installed it I had to wonder...how the hell did they manage it...it isn't very hard, at all.

 

with Intel there arnt any pins per say. Its just drop and lock.

 

I've never dealt with Intel, minus my laptop.

 

Alright this is gunna sound stupid but really, what is overclocking?

 

AMD CPUs don't even require you to apply thermal paste anymore. They come with it already applied. You just have to pull the plastic tab off it and drop it in.


I'd compare it to tuning your car. It pushes it beyond the default hardware limits, but in the process creates more strain and heat in the computer. If you overclock, you'll need much beefier cooling systems.

 

Intel doesnt use pins anymore as mentioned they use Lan grid array.

But if you use intel you generally need a better power supply, and you have to match the pins up.

Newer intel processors use 24 pin + an extra 8 pin.

AMD still uses intels old 24 + another 4pin.

 

Alright well, im gunna start designing it here in a minute, as in selecting parts, crunching numbers, making sure all reviews of parts are ok. Hopefully ill get funds approved soon.

Edit: Reviewed the motherboard, and noticed allot of people have problems with it. It seems like, it either will work or wont. People who had it go fine, did just that, said it was great, but ones who had problems, had it crash to no avail. Usually in their case they tried everything it seems like and its just the motherboad, should i continue with this one still? It seems like its pretty decent, i looked at some others and it seems like all have some bad reviews, whatcha think?

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.441093

thank me with $ All you need after that is a video card.

 

Doesnt that have less RAM and wouldnt it cost more actually? Yes it has 1.5TB but i dont really need that. I cant really tell, but it doesnt seem that much better. I really dont mean to sound like an ***, but how is it?

Also, isnt this HD a bit better, review wise, as well as a bit more space, for only 10$ more?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152185

Edit: Im liking the pricing, im under 1000 so far. Including a bigass 23" screen, and sound system. I might downsize the screen just because 23 is a big screen from what im used to. Im working on a 14.5" atm..My bill with sound and monitor is around 930$, then im wondering if these disc drives will work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204
If its unnessecary or whatever leme know, i just figured its 20$ with all stars.
Im assuming none of this comes with windows 7 or anything?

 

link me your whole build so far. Ok if its the same one switch posted then its ok, but the one I posted is deffinately better. AMD is ok, but the one I posted is an unlocked multiplier CPU so you can overclock the hell outt of it. Also the PSU on the one I posted is FAR better. Also the HD from switch I believe is one of those variable RPM HDs .... so it will run between 5400-7200 which isnt good for a performance HD. You want at least a 7200 for a gaming rig.

Yes you might pay a little more in the end if you still need the monitor and gfx card + speakers. But its still a better computer. Plus its nice because it comes with everything you need but the gfx card.

 

Your motherboard really depends. Some people are just ******** and go to auto blaming mode when **** doesn't work for them.

 

Here is my setup im going for.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129021 Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131402 Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150447 Graphics
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341022 PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103704 Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231247 RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136218 HDD im not sure of but this is a decent looking one.
Also when you overclock doesnt it put more strain on the parts and heat out?

 

looks good to me

 

Dont get me wrong though, i dont mean to be nit picky and all, i appreciate your advice, i just really wanna make sure i get the right things.

 

When you overclock, yes.

Also...with your CPU..you could run.. a Phenom II X2-3 and unlock another core possibly, and run at a higher speed.. my Phenom II X3 is 3.1ghz and I was able to unlock the 4th core and be stable..

Just a suggestion, but either way, it looks fine.

 

No your build so far is just fine. Maybe about even or better to the one I posted. I mean I just personally like it because its intel. The first components I was looking at which switch posted werent that great. Mainly the PSU.

 

Haha nice to hear you approve. Bako, if it were up to me price wise id rock the **** out of the best **** i could find, but cash is the problem atm. Im trying really hard to make it under 1k, screen, keyboard, and all.

 

K, then a few things.

1. You're buying more RAM then what you'd honestly be needing right off the bat, and RAM sticks that are priced mainly for overclocking purposes.

2. You're buying a good video card, but for 50-60 dollars cheaper, could still have a good video card, that will play whatever games you want it to just fine.

3. You could save maybe $20 on your tower by buying possibly an Antec 300, which still includes 5 large fans total, has the pretty little lights, and keeps everything cool.

You can also save yourself $10 bucks or so and simply purchase a 500 gig.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136497

Hard Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227582

RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103846

CPU, still has the potential to unlock all 4 cores, more likely to unlock 3, with an L3 cache, and is a very solid processor with a better output then the quad you posted up.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121380

Vid card OR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161296

or..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814129112



CASE:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811156063

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119077


There are so many options to build a very nice computer on a smaller budget then even a grand and still have it do everything you want it to do without flaws.

And, mind you, you can easily add more ram in the future..

Everything I have listed will do exactly what you want it to with zero issues.. as I've stated I just built one, with similar specs, I've overclocked it, I've played games on it, watched movies, etc.. zero issues.

Unless you plan on going in, playing around in the bios, and overclocking by a large margin, then alot of what you're looking at is simply overkill..or meant for more extreme usage.

I'd go take a look around xtremesystems.org and read around on the various computer components, if there's something to be tested, they've probably done it.

 

Well the reason i dont wanna go to 500GB is because my mom likes photos, and takes allot. Along with prbly 600+songs, and atleast 5 solid games. Why not for just 10$? And for RAM my brothers ASUS laptop had like 8Gb and still somehow managed to run out sometimes. Maxed settings of course, but still. I think ive probably decided on a case, although its a bit more, supposedly its well ventilated and quiet, while i still like the styling. For once im willing to not skimp on price atm, if nessecary i can downgrade, but it depends. I can shave a bit off for a few things that i could live without, but for the time bieng, ill keep it as is.

 

The parts look good to me. Just make sure you also buy a cheap cd/dvdrom drive as well. You can get em for like $10.

You'll definitely be happy if you go with this setup.

 

Awesome, yea i think im gunna probly go with this drive just because its top rated. Should i bother getting two? Or is that only for someone who wants to burn dvds/disc etc?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204
The only thing i saw wrong with this, is it doesnt say its compatible with windows 7.
Also whats the difference between cd/dvd burners, and drives?

 

Also if anyone has any promos or etc, like discount codes id really appreciate it, this is all gunna be ordered very soon.

 

Im going to go ahead and figure he is running vista? Your brother that was running out of memory that is. Vista will load as much as itself as it can into memory, making it look like its a memory hog .... which it is. However its done so the OS runs faster.

 

Ah, that makes sense. Any info on the driver/burner thing?

 

Looks great. it will work on windows 7.

 

Cool, so is there anything else i should know before buying the parts? I have, the RAM, Motherboard, Case, HDD, burner, graphics card, PSU, speakers, keyboard, mouse, processor, and monitor, that everything ill need?

 

Yeah order an anti static wrist strap and wear it whenever you handle the computer parts. They're like $3.

 

Cool, thanks for that bit of info, i know they said to constantly de-electrify yourself, so im assuming this will do the same? Also do magnetized tools hurt computer parts? I heard this and gotta make sure i remember it.