Im looking to get a new bike for next summer (2008 model)
I've been driving some of my friends bikes.
-2007 cbr 600
-08 kawasaki ninja also 600
- and a R1
Reviews say that honda is the winner between the 4 japaneese brands not by much but it is.
but which one to get 600? or will I regret not getting a 1000 for just $1000 more?
will i be hearing "shoud have gotten a 1000!"
(shoud have gotten a gt!) lol

guys with bike experience ??

 

i've been riding bikes since i was 16. I've had everything from a 500 to a Busa. Go with the 1000. Today's 1000's can run through the twisties just as well as 600's because they're shorter and lighter, but pack the liter class punch. And personally, i'd get an R1, but thats just me. No matter which brand you get, go with the 1000, you won't regret it.

 

start with the 600. you WILL NOT regret getting a 600 over a 1000. there is no reason to get 1000 cause you wont use all that power. Im satisified with my 1995 600 katana. plenty fast. the only reason i would upgrade is because my bike is old technology.

 

I would never ride a 600 again. I've gotten used to the power of the 1000+ bikes. I rode a friend's Ninja 600 a few months back, and it just wasn't even fun. A very lack-luster experience. I'm not basing my opinion from no experience. I've owned probably 10+ bikes in my life, again ranging from a 500 all the way up to a Busa. As a matter of fact, my second bike was a 95 Katana 600. And as for "never using all that power," that's a crock of ****. LOL I always ride hard and fast. Again, in the end, its all personal preference, and as long as you're RIDING, thats what matters.

 

That is terrible advice for a beginner. And liter bikes don't run quite as well through the corner as a 600. They are neither shorter nor lighter than a 600 either. where are you getting your information from? a liter bike will take a 600 in the straights any day though.


Here's the deal man..even a newer 600 can be a lot of a new rider to handle. But a lot of people do it and are just fine. More people do it and crash their bikes. You wouldn't beleive how many threads on the 600rr forums pop up like: 'Hey guys just got an 09 CBR600RR as my first bike!' and a week later a thread by the same guy 'Hey guys, just wrecked'


what you SHOULD do is find a 500 or an older 600 and learn on that. <- that's the best advice you're gonna hear.

BUT you're probably not gonna do it. but for the sake of your LIFE do NOT GET A 1000 AS A FIRST BIKE. it's wayyyyy to much power. one accidental twist of the wrist and you're gonna be on your ***. or worse..dead in a ditch.

read these:

http://www.sportbikes.ws/showthread.php?t=15831

http://www.sportbikes.ws/showthread.php?t=57176 <---especially that.


anyway..here's my 600rr














by the way my first bike was an 86 GSXR 750. A 750 sounds big. but it was a pretty slow bike, due to it's age.

 

Oh, and don't be a ******* squid. Wear your gear. Helmet, boots, gloves, and a jacket.

I was guilty of not wearing boots ALL the time until I saw this video.


warning, it's graphic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=998Hq7J_6NQ&feature=fvw

also check out www.600rr.net

 

That's because all you probably do is squid around town and blast the straights doing whoolies.

You will never be able to use the full potential of a 1000. that's far from 'A crock of ****.'

Do a track day, you might actually learn something.

 

I didn't read all this, but I would listen to BadFish more because well he's been riding for sometime + experince. So have I, but he already explained a lot of it I believe.

A 600CC bike will take corners a lot better then a 1000CC bike. I have a 2005 Kawasaki ZX-636R, but yes I do want something bigger. Which I'm going to have for a second bike and an R1 is a nice bike to upgrade to. Honda's I don't really know much about, but I don't like Honda at all. Badfish has a nice looking Honda though.

You can use Full Potential of a 100CC. Instead of going to the DMV (If that's what it's called there) to get your license, just go take the schooling or whatever they call it there, you wont regret it. Doing a track day, even just one time, you will learn a lot. We have a guy down here who will do a 1 on 1 with you to help survive the streets, survial reactions, bike handling, oh **** moments and much more. Riding a motorcycle is like a whole new world out there.

Where you located anyways?

 

Old Picture - When I first got it - I'm in the process of painting it.


There is a lot of people out there who have BIGGER bikes, but they can't do anything but go straight. If your not doing twisties or track, well....

 

Man.....I really want a bike......Bitches like bikes.
Ah....bitches..


I would definately wear full gear while riding though. I wouldnt even ride a dirtbike without boots thats for damn sure. Man....I really want another dirtbike too....god I wish I wasnt poor.

 

Triumph 675...look at one of those. One of my friends is looking to upgrade from his 2003 R6 that runs 10.8's in the quarter mile. He hasnt found one that he's ready to drop 5-6 grand on yet.

 

almost EVERY experienced rider says that a beginner should start on a less than 600cc bike. i have a ridden everything under the sun from 250 ninjas to turbo'd busa's to choppers. as much as i like the power of a 1000cc+ engine...a 600 is perfect for anyone just looking to ride. these new 600cc engines have at least 110 hp.

to put it in perspective, cbr600's will easily break 10's in the quarter mile. i would go with an older 500 v-twin sport bike as your first. more managable power for a beginner.

 

675's are nasty bikes since theyre lighter than most 600cc's and substantially narrower. have a cool sound too.


oh...always wear your gear.....i have yet to down my bike and i always wear my gear.

 

+1

I started out on a Ducati 999, but I was young and just riding around. For twisties and what not I started on my current bike 636CC.

 

600's the sweetspot. personally id like to have a new 250 ninja just for the fact that its a good commuter. but i still cant get over the sound of em, u cant beat a 4cyl sound.

 

Let me clarify myself. I didn't mean that the liter class bikes were shorter and lighter THAN a 600. Just that they're shorter and lighter than what the older bikes used to be. Also, i must have misunderstood him, i didn't realize it was his FIRST bike. And lastly, as for track days, I've ridden Road Atlanta, so i've ridden at a track, as well as blasts through the North GA mountains. That being said, Badfish is correct... mostly. LOL Get a smaller, older bike as your first one. My first bike was a Ninja 500. And always always ALWAYS wear your gear.

 

Im on my third bike...started with a 250, went to a 400, now im on a 600. I cant imagne needing more than 600cc's

get a 600. youll be happy with it. especially since you didnt mention track use... 1000cc's on the street is pointless.

 

I have done multiple track days with my R6 and I have never ever ever felt that it wasn't enough power. A full Akrapovic exhaust, power commander, and steering dampner made it to the point that I could never use up the full power of the 600cc on Nashville Super Speedway or in Gainesville, Florida.

Get a 600 and you will be happy...Then if later on as your experience gets to the point where you feel like you need more just get a turbo kit for and then you'll be able to blow past liter bikes while keeping the better cornering.

 

 

+1000 Triumph 675. I have a 675 Street Triple R (same as the Daytona 675 but naked - no front fairing), and they are a phenomenal motor...the sound is the sex! The 675 is a I3, so the cylinders are much bigger then your regular 600 I4 meaning you get the low end grunt of a 1000 but the handling and weight of a 600. I've tried a few different 1000's and 600's and by far the most fun I've had is on the 675 motor.



+1 on starting out small first though...there is no harm in buying a used Ninja 250/500, learning on it, and selling it for the same price you bought it for. I started out on a 250r, and it was a ton of fun on the backroads commuting to work despite the smallish motor.

I also don't see the argument that a 600 is too slow. You're average new 600 can run in the 10's and traps 130+ miles per hour in the quarter mile...how many of your Mustangs do that? Not mine...yet...

 

Good looking bike AMNick! I'm a huge fan of the Daytonas. that Street Triple is no joke though.

 

I was pretty close to buying a triumph dytona 08 but the guy wanted $8000 for it, (I thought was too much, compared to a brand new 1000cc)
Later I found out that there is not as many accesories either.

Maybe I didnt clarify myself either.
I dont own a bike my self, but I've been ridding for a lilltle more than two years.
My cousin owns a katana 600, which is what ive been ridding all summer since he got hurt and couldnt ride no more.

I live in Russellville, AR and we dont have a track near by, me and my friends go ride up in mountain roads and is a ton of fun! 600's are fast but like I said I dont want to regret not getting a 1000

It would be the first bike I own but the first one I ride

 

Haha!!!! I used to deliver around russellville all the time when i drove a big truck for Maverick.

 

haha thats pretty cool! idk if you ever saw the honda of russ. they made it really huge now, they moved it right by the i-40. thats were I fell inloved with the honda 600rr graffiti edition.
-they also have the repsol!
man that thing is beasty!

but back to the question

600, or 1000!!!!!!!!?

 

Thanks! I think I told you before, but I love that matte black CBR...it looks so freaking mean! I was between the Green/Black 2009 CBR600rr and a 2009 Daytona...finally decided to go with the Daytona...rode out the dealership with the Street Triple R.

Basically I took the Daytona for a test ride...then took the STR on a test ride and it won me over. I hadn't originally considering it because the regular Street Triple has dialed back frame geometry, lesser brakes, and too soft for me non-adjustable suspension...but the new R version that just came out at the time got the exact same frame, big boy brakes w/ stainless lines, fully adjustable suspension, etc. that the Daytona gets. Basically a naked Daytona with different cams. A true wolf in street...er sheep's clothing!

Well then, 1000s are fun but if I could only have one, the 600 gets my vote!

 

owning is different from borrowing... and I mean in the way of how you would ride the bike. You will push a bike you own harder than a borrowed bike.

2 years of riding is not that long.

An '07 or newer 600 is plenty... 100hp+...on a sub 500 pound machine...

more than you need.

remember 99% of riders out there that have done it... say riding a small cc bike hard is more fun than babying a liter bike going the same speed around the corners.

 

this is very true!!
600rr it is!!!
Im gonna try o go for the cbr600 black mate graffiti eddition..
thanks guys.

 

Gaff edition is a sick paint job. nice choice. just don't mess up the pretty paint you know what what they say..there are two types of riders..those that have gone down and those that will go down.

here's some cool graffs I liked

single sided swing arm!















ok I'm done..

 

a wise choice as long as you arent a giant person. I wouldnt wanna be over 6ft tall and have a CBR.

 

I have never had a bike but the first time I rode one it was my buddies 2000 Kawi ZX6R and it was fast as hell.

I don't want to start a new thread for it but do any of you guys have any time on a Suzuki SV650 or Kawi 650r? I am really liking the styling of the new 650R and heard they are both great starter bikes.