What do you think about this Radar detector?
 

What do you think about this Radar detector i just orderd tonight? http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...6P9500I&tp=142 hope it doesnt end up being a p.o.s.

You bought a $450 radar detector? Have you ever tried just going the speed limit?

Wow... :eek:

For your situation I suggest making it work.

should of gotten a Valentine 1, its a much better detector for the same price. I love my V1.

u drive too fast too often...

never owned one...but ridden plenty of times with a buddy that has one...if I ever get one...the V1 will be THE one. heh, and they are made in my home town.

Can you steal us some from the factory? :D

i would trust mine too much and get caught

yeah true ^

just make it so ur car cant go over 70 mph ;)

Shoulda saved your money and got a V1

DUDE you should have bought the one in the classifieds!! you get the 8500 x50 AND the equipment to hardwire the radar detector all for $200 shipped. You just missed out on a hell of a deal if you already bought that other one of the internet

and yeah i have the 9500i its nice with a lot nice features since its GPS compatible. Just remember radar detectors don't make you invincible and if your going way over the speed limit the cop will have your speed by the time the radar registers. If you have to speed you should really keep it 5-10 over because going 15+ or double the speed limit its just a matter of time before you kill someone

Yeah definitely was just going to pick up one of those Cobra ones at Target for 100 dollars but decided to just go the speed limit.

450 dollars. Thats crazy. Your crazy for going so f'n fast anyway.

at the rate your going a radar dector would get you in a lot more trouble.

if you dont slow down your going to kill some one or get kill!:(

Not trying to start anything but.. You may think you look like a bad ass driving at dangerous speeds but we are all looking at you like your an idiot. Just to let you know.

damn just saw the price yeah thats crazy almost $460 I don't think its worth that much haha Im glad i didn't pay retail damn. I would return it and take the deal thats in the classifieds before he puts it on ebay. I wouldn't spend more than 250 on one of those

I'm still going to laugh when you get pulled over with the radar detector and get your like 3rd or 4th wreckless driving ticket. I bet that radar will come in real handy when your license is gone.

Dude what are you thinking? Im satisfied with my 40 dollar detector. I wouldn't even spend over 100 bucks on something that is not that reliable.. Just cause you have and expensive detector dosent mean that your invisiable. Nine times out of ten a cop can tell if your speeding with or without a radar. They do this by visually observing your speed from one point to another. They just use radar to confirm, to so proof when they write you a ticket. I agree with everyone else just slow your butt down. LOL. N E way here is a link for you to check out. A retired cop gives his advice on what to look for in a good detector. Should save that money for future tickets. LOL

http://www.radarbusters.com/

I have the older model without gps and it rocks 8500 i think is model..
Found out which bands the cops dont use locally and just turned em off.
Now when it goes off 99.9% of the time its a real alert not just false alarm.

I heard the v1 has mega mega false alarms.

Do you really need a antenna facing backwords when your going 100 miles per hour(mirrors work)? Things i like about v1 is its upgradeable and the radar counter.. I just turn off my false alarms and im golden they only use ka and laser here k is a false alarm.

Make sure your possitive on what they run before you turn off bands though. Or just deal with the false alarms... Every radar detector is going to have false alarms just some filter them better....some scream them longer with antenna facing backwords.

All in all killer detector imo and gps is a nice add on. Dont know if yours comes with remote light and mute for the cigarrete plug in but i love that piece. mine came with it.

www.radartest.com
its not the detector you bought no but its model down without gps..

imo valentine1 buyers just read too many car and drive adds:P

V1 came out on top for false alarms in the test yay!!! we won!!

You made a good choice imo i was going to upgrade mine myself but no need really the detection is amazing all i would be gaining is gps but for now unless mine breaks or is stolen i can do without gps.

Exactly.

keep telling yourself that only one antenna is better, meanwhile we V1 users will have our arrows and therefore complete situational awareness in our nice metal cased V1's that actually cost less than your cheaply built escort.

Also what in the hell does GPS have to do with a radar detector?

I have a $150 cobra radar...seems to work good enough for me..:confused:

lol the uninformed....
check out radartest.com head to head test although its the older model escort not the fancy shmancy gps one your v1 aint so hot after all.....but atleast you got the name!!! V1 was the best maybe 5-10 years ago agreed.

Instant on silly bones thats what gps helps with if your detector goes off your already busted ....many times police tend to sit in the same areas....these areas can be located by the user input into his gps or by online download so even if mr. police man hiding behind a building doesnt have his radar or laser gun on you have initial warning by gps.....your V1 with dual antennas cant do that(no detector can):P By the time your v1 goes off he already has the flashing lights on you.

Also if your area has photo radar or red light cameras gps can locate those as photo radar they shoot you after you pass them not as you approach.

And yes running red lights is a bad idea thats not the point...its not so you can run reds its so you know if the damn thing turns yellow as you approach slam on the brakes dont go through a yellow or you just may get a ticket in the mail.

Its a good detector in a head to head comparison



Heres a couple quotes for those folks that dont want to do the research from radartest.com

"valentine has traditionally dismissed any criticism of its abbreviated list of features, shrugging it off as inconsequential in comparison to its hot performance. And for many years they had a point. The v1 always walked off with best in class x-band and laser sensitivity and often k band as well. But x band sensitivity doesnt matter much today; two of the three biggest radar manufacturers stopped making x band guns except by special order some years back. They list x band in the catalogue only for competitive bidding purposes. And only two state police agencies ohio and new jersey continue to use it in any quantity."

" The valentine1 is a highly sensitive radar detector- good enough that i declared it the winner of my 2000 automobile magazine shootout-- but it is no longer top dog by default. The world has changed since it was designed in 1991."

"valentine seems to be trapped in a time warp. Even the owners manual reflects 80s thinking, replete with wildly outdated statements such as x band is most common for moving and stationary radar. Huh? 48 of the 50 highway state patrols abandoned it years ago."

"The v1 is unique in having a metal case rather then the usual plastic, not necessarily the optimal choice in hot southern climates, as i discovered in a more recent test."

"Other then now being housed in the old case and having received occasional subassembly replacements and some software tweaks -improved ka band sensitivity and the adition of ku band were amoung the most recent -it has remained largely unchanged since george bush (not dubya we are talking the first george bush here) spent his last year in the white house. With a detectors lifespan averaging 18 months these days, as the most expensive unit tested, the V1 would have to offer a dazzling array of virtues and world- class performance to make the cut against the far more modern contenders in this test."

"In urban areas the directional arrows where often hyperactive, alerting to every door opener in the neighbourhood with the bogey counter (able to display up to 9 simultaneous signals and indicate which is strongest) frequent warning of 3 or more simultaneous threats comming from different quadrants of the compass. Many of these where x and k band door openers and local oscillators from passing radar detectors."


However v1 is rated as best laser detection.https://mustangboards.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

I dont know what they use where everyone lives but here where i live its 95% Ka band 5% laser k and x= false alarm, so i turned them off.

Not uninformed, just don't see why GPS would be of any use. What if you set it for where a cop is and then he moves? Instant on? how about a detector that just doesn't turn off? I also like how they read an old manual from the 80's and then say the V1 is trapped in the past. My manual clearly states that hardly anybody uses x. Also if you think V1 is too sensitive then that is user error. I get 0 false alarms. GPS sounds like a nice way for cops to move around and trick your detector. YOu go ahead and use the GPS, I'll just use my brain. You keep your fancy half-assed detector and i'll keep my military grade one. I wouldn't use any other detector even if you paid me

Sounds like you have a lot of first hand experience with the V1 too ;)

The GPS thing actually is very nice but completenewb you are kind of inaccurate in some of your statements. The GPS feature is yes mostly to program speed traps however the main function of it is to tell you what speed you are going. The second that a radar hits you the detector tells you what the speed is that you are going and then a voice tells you what radar band hit you. Thats the only thing I like about the GPS is the accurate speed identification, and the ability to block a false alarm by GPS coordinates. The speed trap thing to me is useless if you know you are in a speed trap area... just DON'T speed haha.

Also that statement of the second your radar goes off the cop has your speed thats not true if your right in front of him yes but if he has his radar on and you get a week signal of 1 or 2 bars no the cop does not have your speed

haha it must be beeping all the time if your picking it up after you pass the automatic door still picking it up:P Fob counter tells you if its fake yes but my point is it still beeps!
I just turn off those false alarms and dont need a fob counter but thats just my preferance i guess..
Before i turned off the automatic doors my girlfriend would rip my detector out of the plug in bc it would beep for no reason just like the v1 would.

Cops usually sit in the same areas atleast here they do except the ones driving down the street....

It has gps as well man....its an add on built in not only a gps that doesnt detect sigh

Instant on laser if cop has you targeted and you dont get "splash" (splash is like a garden hose hitting an object if you pick up overspray your safe--if they hit you direct your done) on your car/detector you have about 0.05 seconds from detection to have your speed down. Laser is fast man --- If he has it on for hours just picking targets sure you pick them up before he gets you but if he targets you and hits with first try turning it on....No radar detector will help if your going 10 over the speed limit by the time your ears hear the beep and send the signal to your foot to brake he already has your speed....

Just wish it was more a discussion then an argument if you could show me tests comparisons like i have instead of just "your wrong" my metal case and fob counter rocks! I prefer false alarms to not even beep to not even have to check if its fake or real id rather know its real or fake if it beeps its real.

Lets agree to disagree on this nobody is getting anywhere on the discussion, really.

The guy asked if he bought a good detector i am saying yes. Your saying no both of us are entitled to our opinions bc thats what the guy wants anyways.

Have a good day thanks for the discussion.

doing research ---:D

Here is what i was saying Instant on if its a direct hit on you and your leader of the pack or only one on road you have little to no warning..

"Instant-on" radar and laser

One technique can be hard to defend against, the so-called "Instant- on." Here, the radar or laser unit is in a stand-by mode until a vehicle approaches. It is not emitting a beam - so your detector can't find it. Then, when you are within range, the operator switches the unit on and it calculates your speed within one second. A good radar detector protects you by warning you when the operator "zaps" one of the cars up ahead. (splash pick up not direct hit)The detector has to be sensitive enough to pick up these brief, weak signals. And reliable enough so you don't interpret them as random false alarms and ignore them.

Moving Radar - Limited Range/Warning
In their efforts to increase revenue and "trap" motorists with radar detectors, the police use "instant on" more frequently than in the past. With instant on, the officer leaves the gun in a standby mode and there is nothing to detect until the officer physically pulls the trigger to clock the speed of the target vehicle. If you are the leader of the pack or the only one on the road and they tag you with instant on, there may be no advance warning at all. With instant on, you are counting on them tagging someone ahead of you. This is why detectors with the longest range are important. You may hear your detector giving brief, weak bursts as an alert that might seem to be a false signal. This is a perfect example of instant on radar being used ahead of you, and should be a signal for caution.

The other possibility involves "mobile radar" and instant on. So radar can be used in a moving patrol car, they use a separate, low powered radar gun underneath the patrol car aimed at the road to clock the speed of the patrol car. This is a very weak signal and is difficult to detect because it is aimed down at the road instead of in the direction of oncoming traffic. When the patrol car wants to clock the speed of a target vehicle, they use the stronger radar gun you may see mounted on the dash.

Stationary Alerts - X or K
The GPS-powered, TrueLock™ feature of our Passport 9500i allows you to simply press the mute button a couple of times to permanently reject a signal. Our patented design captures the exact location coordinates and the exact frequency of the signal and stores them in memory. Once stored, TrueLock™ will reject these signals, but is intelligent enough to warn you of a different signal in that same location

There you go sorry for my miss information on gps i apologize i got it confused with a gps unit that tells you where red light cameras and photo radar sights are and distance to target....these are legal where radar detectors are not (navalert) and database can be downloaded.

http://ezinearticles.com/?How-The-Ra...Work&id=302461
( he makes a little error here though hes talking about light but calls it radar which is actually laser hes talking about)

When investing in a radar detector you have a couple options available. You used to only be able to get radar detectors that alerted you when it sensed the radio waves from the police officers radar. Now you can purchase detectors that also have a light sensitive panel that will detect the laser radar that is becoming more popular. The only problem is that since the beam of light (laser)the police officers use is so focused even with a detector it is still easy to get caught speeding. By the time your radar detects the light from the officer's radar you are already in the sight of his radar(laser) and thus already busted.

Once again thats assuming direct hit...Spray off another car will give you warning of laser


Navalert (whole nother story)


GPS based Speed Camera and Red Light Alert System
Simple lighter plug installation, alerts to every type of Red Light and and Speed Camera in the USA and Canada, utilizing SIRF GPS technology.
The NavAlert speed camera detector can store around 150,000 positions in its database. All cameras in North America covered. The speed camera locations can be divided into different data sets, to distinguish between such positions as fixed speed cameras, possible mobile camera positions, red light cameras, schools, and high collision areas.

While driving normally it will display the current speed. When a warning is triggered, a chime is heard followed by an announcement such as "camera ahead limit 60". The speed limit at the camera site will flash before going back to displaying the vehicle's speed. This will typically happen at 500 meters from the camera position, . A second chime is heard at 200 yards from the camera site, and if the vehicle is still over the speed limit, a continuous warning is heard "reduce speed" + warning sound until the vehicle speed drops to the speed limit, or the camera site is passed at which time an all clear chime is heard.

Alerts To Every type of Red Light Speed Camera in USA and Canada

GPS data via usb can supply your laptop or cellphone GPS NMEA data

FeaturesThe detector will give an over-speed warning in close proximity to the camera if exceeding the speed limit, but will automatically mute when within the speed limit, The driver is advised of only cameras on the road they are driving along, thereby negating false alerts, The driver is advised as they approach high collision areas, GPS speedometer, Announces close proximity to schools Monday - Friday 08:00 - 5:00, Displays the current location as Latitude and Longitude, which can be relayed to the emergency services or breakdown authorities.

My apologies for miss information about gps i had a navalert cross over
But after making about 20 points 1 wrong is not a bad average.

Ok enough of this debate about radar /laser detectors and how they work

If you seriously want to know just look it up guys. I can post information that i find in direct tests online all day and post how i researched things work and people will disagree...hey we are human.

Just google it !

I was just posting an opinion and it turned into a chore defending my points every dayhttps://mustangboards.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

The original poster never asked how laser works how radar works detection range or if a valentine1 or brand x is better.... We got waay out of focus.

Anyways have a good day.
Now back to watchin my stocks!

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