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StreetRacer 08-27-2007 12:01 PM

about mike vick
 
i think hes a dousche for tryin to say he didnt know any better about killin for sport being wrong BUT.......its a dog...this whole thing is blowin up like he killed a girl scout...its a dog...geez...in other countries the cow is sacred but i'll be damned if a hamburger aint great tastin...i just think people need to get a grip....

jjtgiants 08-27-2007 12:10 PM

I think dog fighting is horrible, however the part that you have to be sick in the head to defend is the part where him/and or his friends were killing the dogs that weren't fighting or fighting well.....and the methods they were using to kill the dogs are sickening.

I'm just happy that professional sports are finally starting to crack down on the "thug" mentality of the athletes.

I listened to his press conference this morning and I about laughed my ass off when he said " I've found jesus, and asked for his forgiveness". What a jack ass

Jack The Ripper 08-27-2007 01:43 PM

^^^ +1

THey should cover the motherfer in A1 steak sauce and toss him in a pit with his dogs.


Streetracer
and yeah, they are Dogs. And he should pay for what he is doing to them. Yes, the cow is holy in other countrys and here in america we eat them. However they go down by getting a nail driven through the brain which kills them pretty much instantly, were not having the cows fight to the death and throwing the carcases in the garbage. You cant exactly compare Eating animals and Animal Bloodsports.

Hell, if he were just killing the dogs and eating them it wouldnt bother me nearly so much. however he is getting enjoyment out of torturing and antagonizing these dogs and has fun watching them hurt and kill eachother. That aint NOTHING like the USDA meat market

00blkstanggt 08-27-2007 02:38 PM

Mike Vick is a jackass. He's not even that great of a player to begin with and I don't think killing dogs is the same as killing cows. Torturing a dog is one messed up thing and you have to be pretty messed up yourself to actually be able to do it. He deserves whatver he gets even though I'm sure he get some way reduced sentence. I'm just glad the NFL is still sticking it to him though. Bye bye to his signing bonus.

Dave04Mustang 08-27-2007 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by StreetRacer (Post 279561)
i think hes a dousche for tryin to say he didnt know any better about killin for sport being wrong BUT.......its a dog...this whole thing is blowin up like he killed a girl scout...its a dog...geez...in other countries the cow is sacred but i'll be damned if a hamburger aint great tastin...i just think people need to get a grip....

in no way can killing a dog because its a bad fighter or training dogs to kill each other be compared to killing a cow..... lol

HokieStang00 08-27-2007 03:08 PM

I hope he gets what is the STANDARD punishment for this sort of crime. Everyone is worried about him not being punished enough, but I see no reason for him to carry the burden of the numerous celebrities and athletes to get a slap on the wrist in past years. I'm getting tired of seeing athletes piss away their lives and reputations. If it's really that difficult for athletes to just stay out of trouble while making millions of dollars for playing a game, I'll gladly fill in their place.

jjtgiants 08-27-2007 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by HokieStang00 (Post 279587)
If it's really that difficult for athletes to just stay out of trouble while making millions of dollars for playing a game, I'll gladly fill in their place.


I hear that my friend! The problem is they are thugs. Both the Vick brothers are thugs. I new Marcus was a thug, wasn't sure about Mike until this came out. Doesn't Michael Vick have a building named after him at Va Tech? I would suspect they will be giving his money back and re-naming it.

00blkstanggt 08-27-2007 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by jjtgiants (Post 279593)
I hear that my friend! The problem is they are thugs. Both the Vick brothers are thugs. I new Marcus was a thug, wasn't sure about Mike until this came out. Doesn't Michael Vick have a building named after him at Va Tech? I would suspect they will be giving his money back and re-naming it.

I wouldn't even give him his money back. I would just rename it. His brother is a dumbass as well. Should of known Vick wasn't any better when he stood up for his brother after what he did on the field(can't remember what it was) and then when he pulled a gun on some kids.

jjtgiants 08-27-2007 04:22 PM

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Someone should explain to this kid the difference between a "mistake" and a cruel human being that new exactly what he was doing. I don't get it. To me someone that bank rolls the operation where acid is being poored on dogs is just a bad person...no excuses, just a bad person. T

HokieStang00 08-27-2007 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by jjtgiants (Post 279593)
I hear that my friend! The problem is they are thugs. Both the Vick brothers are thugs. I new Marcus was a thug, wasn't sure about Mike until this came out. Doesn't Michael Vick have a building named after him at Va Tech? I would suspect they will be giving his money back and re-naming it.

Everyone used to say that Michael should take Marcus under his wing, and teach him how to be more responsible. I guess he must have taught Marcus everything he knew. Unfortunately, not only are there buildings named after him, but he will always be the face of VT football.

zigzaggthefag321 08-27-2007 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by jjtgiants (Post 279608)
Someone should explain to this kid the difference between a "mistake" and a cruel human being that new exactly what he was doing. I don't get it. To me someone that bank rolls the operation where acid is being poored on dogs is just a bad person...no excuses, just a bad person. T

that kids daddy or mommy probably told him Vick was a victim of racial profiling too. lol.

WaterDR 08-27-2007 09:38 PM

Just goes to show you that you can take the guy out of the ghetto, but not the ghetto out of the guy. Vick is just yet one more example of what happens when a low-life moron makes lots of money. They are still just a low-life moron.

The only thing worse for his public image then torturing animals would be if he was a child molester.

StreetRacer 08-27-2007 09:39 PM

what I"M sayin is i do think any abuse of a dumb animal is bad but soceity needs to take a look in its own backyard...i used the cow comparison cause some cultures idolize the cow...whereas here we slaughter them without mercy (its SUPPOSED to be like jack said but like anything else..only when the inspectors are around)...but if people dont like the cow comparison...lets talk about the sacred elephant...dont those kooks over in india worship the elephant? tell them to go take a peek at the circus after closing....and dont even get me started on what the chinese food spots are doin with cats...this vick guy is an ass sure as shootin....but its hypocrisy i hate....i just hate whenever soceity gears up against the cause of the day and pretends their own shit doesnt stink...thats my rant

StreetRacer 08-27-2007 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by WaterDR (Post 279696)
Just goes to show you that you can take the guy out of the ghetto, but not the ghetto out of the guy. Vick is just yet one more example of what happens when a low-life moron makes lots of money. They are still just a low-life moron.

The only thing worse for his public image then torturing animals would be if he was a child molester.

aha....case in point....this guy "vick from the ghetto" kills a coupla dogs and hes already suspended, the masses are cryin, and hes goin to jail soon...all within a month FOR A DOG....now hold on..... "r kelly from the ghetto" has sex with a drunk 12 year old, pisses on her, video tapes it, and hasnt even gone to trial 10 YEARS LATER!!! thats what i'm talkin about when i yap about the weird soceity we live in so...it would have better for vick to rape a kid...at least then he'd have 10 years to stockpile millions

Jack The Ripper 08-28-2007 03:26 PM

Just a dog?

Lol...

If somebody kicked my dog in the ribs with the intention of hurting her, i would put a bullet right through his fucking face without hesitating.


oh yah

im real sure once the inspectors put up the nail guns and get chainsaws and see how long they can keep the cow alive while gutting it. They kill them as fast as possible mainly because if the cows release a buttload of adrenaline then the meat tastes like shit. They do kill them as fast as possible, they dont sit there and have cow death matches.

Im real sure the circus beats the shit out of thier elephants just for the fuck of it after the show.

and any chinese place that serves cat is probably a vietmanese place, and would be shut down immediatly bu the FDA because cat meat is not tested and regulated

I really dont see the hypocracy here.

EDIT: as for R Kelly, the courts are tied up in it trying to get thier heads out of thier asses. just cause the courts are run by retards does not mean the american public are hypocrites for being disgusted by the vicks actions

Dave04Mustang 08-28-2007 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by StreetRacer (Post 279697)
what I"M sayin is i do think any abuse of a dumb animal is bad but soceity needs to take a look in its own backyard...

You don't have a dog do you?.. Dogs are smarter than half the people walking around now a days

Dude 08-28-2007 03:58 PM

I hope they make an example of him and give him the max, what a pathetic human being he is.

Jack The Ripper 08-28-2007 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Dave04Mustang (Post 279851)
You don't have a dog do you?.. Dogs are smarter than half the people walking around now a days

wasnt it winston churchill who said....

"The more people i meet, the more i like my dog"

lol.


yah, honestly i consider my dog's life far more valuable and worthwhile to a lot of people i have met.

WaterDR 08-28-2007 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by StreetRacer (Post 279699)
aha....case in point....this guy "vick from the ghetto" kills a coupla dogs and hes already suspended, the masses are cryin, and hes goin to jail soon...all within a month FOR A DOG....now hold on..... "r kelly from the ghetto" has sex with a drunk 12 year old, pisses on her, video tapes it, and hasnt even gone to trial 10 YEARS LATER!!! thats what i'm talkin about when i yap about the weird soceity we live in so...it would have better for vick to rape a kid...at least then he'd have 10 years to stockpile millions

There are tons of analagies that you could use. I really don't dissagree with you, but that debate will never get resolved. People are just too personal about it. And that gets to my point, what I was trying to say is that despite the reality, the perception is that most people are animal lovers. Vick made a gigantic public image misstake no matter whether you think it is fair or not.

Take a look at movies. They show killing of people all the time....some really gory stuff. BUT, kill a dog, and people go ape shit. People love dogs.

Jack The Ripper 08-28-2007 08:54 PM

Dogs FTW!

SnTBakosFinest 08-28-2007 11:39 PM

*pops knuckles for some typing*

Ok, the court system IS full of douchebags, no doubt. Chicks get busted with cocaine, 2 DUIS, spends a total of one day in jail, the other 20 days, the other 82 minutes.

Athlete gets busted for having Pit Bull Rape Holds, Dog fights, killing dogs, ect, he faces like 18 months in jail, NFL suspension indefinately.

Sure, jail time isn't exactly fair.

Now, the whole deal with "chinese food places serving cats" ect. Well, just wanted to make this clear, in China, Rats are a delicatcy. So...take that however you want it.

There are extremely strict laws in the U.S. however, about animal cruelty. Putting a female dog in a post so the male dog can have its way is disgusting, putting two starving beaten dogs into a pit and letting them rip eachother to peices, and whichever one loses dies, is against the law. It has been for over 20 years now, and the people that get busted do serious jail time.

As for his public image, I'm not a racist person, but it kinda made me sick to my stomach when I heard someone say "Vick said that its 'part of his culture'" and I imagine it did many other people as well.

If you're talented enough to make millions of dollars, for playing a SPORT, why the hell can't you stay away from all the garbage? You can buy damned near anything you want yet you want to go buy a shitload of pitbulls and have them fight so you can bet on them?

Thats just being a lowlife.

Athletes in general are getting hammered by the law when they are breaking it, its been that way for a while.

As for "society acts like their shit don't stink" Well, most people in society don't get paid a few million a year, most of them are throwing dogs into holes in the ground and watching them fight.

Society gears up on the rich and famous for a few different reasons, one of the biggest, the injustice towards them. They get 18 months, whereas the average joe would be looking at the full punishment, not to mention all the fines.

Society gears up and screams and bitches in hopes that the courts will turn around and actually treat people fairly like they are susposed to. But they never do, because money buys people their way out.

venom 08-29-2007 05:57 AM

I think dedicating time or money on sports is dumb. Im not a sports guy and I could care less who wins at what. I always ask how much do you make when your team wins, most of the time its $0. The sports industry just like the music industry is a money making machine. It not about whos the best but selling you somthing whether it be a jersey or a style of dress.

My godson lives in a rough neighborhood. He was always in trouble since he was a minority in his school. Hes latin in an all black school. His main concern is not getting into drugs or in a gang but part of his problem is the dont stare at me hard mentality. I asked him to listen to rap for the beat and melodys but not the lyrics or image. I explained to him that once you are in the real world the majority of people dont dress or speak like music stars. Unless he plans to be in that industry he should learn to speak normal and dress normal.

Sometimes I work in really bad neighborhoods and seeing adults with gold teeth,underwear hanging out and fully dressed like they were in a team makes me think wow the idustry takes another victim. I was there back in the 80s break dancing on the corner on a piece of cardboard when hip hop took off and now I could care less as I think that music genre has lost its way and it is self destructing everything it touches.


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