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Stan 11-26-2006 03:06 PM

what do you guys think about this...
 
I've been shopping around for a HDTV for my Xbox 360.. I dont have HD cable I would just be using it to mainly play my 360 in hi-def, I came across this Panasonic one.. let me know what you guys think about it.. I sit about 8 feet away from my TV and it will be mounted on the wall, Also let me know if I should go LCD or Plasma because ill be mainly playing video games on it..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824187087

wnracing 11-26-2006 03:18 PM

Personally I am an LCD freak, but that's neither here nor there.. To me LCD has a brighter more colorful picture.

One thing I do not like about plasma is that it gets hot... Like pretty damn warm, I just don't feel safe with that.. Most say you have to have like 2-4" of space between walls or cabinets to let the heat rise..

Just looks for good resolution, that tv can run 1080i which is great..

Easiest way to tell... Go to bb or cc in your area, look at both types and decide for yourself! :boink:

Exit 11-26-2006 03:25 PM

Panasonic makes great plasma tv's, but the one you linked to is actually an EDTV and not an HDTV, although newegg's website claims it can do 1080i. If you have the extra bucks, go with the TH42PX60U which can do true high-def (although not 1080p).

Link comparing the TH42PD60U to the TH42PX60U

GREG@SN95 11-26-2006 03:33 PM

I have a TV from the 70's

thing is surrounded by oak... sits right on the floor... weighs probably like 300 lbs...

it has the old antenna input...

I like that TV...

Jack The Ripper 11-26-2006 03:38 PM

That is a fantastic TV at a great price.

Panasonic is normally about 2 generations ahead of every other plasma manufacturer. They last longer, are brighter, and they are just fine for videogames. Hands down, Panasonic makes the finest plasma's available.

I have a panasonic Plasma of the same line that is 2 generations older, it is te 7th gen, i believe that oneis a 9th gen.

Now, keep in mind, that is NOT and HDTV. It is an EDTV.

before you immediatly freak out and throw out the idea of buying it simply because it is ED, i challange you to be able to tell a difference between ED and HD on a 42in TV from over 8 feet away. You cant. That screensize with that resolution is the best yer gonna be able to see. When i got mine, (identical to that one but 2 generations older) it was sitting next to an HD version of the same TV. I couldnt tell a difference. My roomate was with me and asked which i was gonna get. I asked him Which one is HD... He looked at the ED and stated THAT one is HD. He was about 7-8 feet away from the tv.

Watching something like the beginning of Star Wars Ep III on that tv is a real treat too. Looks absolutly FANTASTIC.

Going though the specs, yer looking at a 10,000:1 contrast ratio. That is freakin awesome. You will get extremly vivid sharp images.
LCD normally gets about 2500 to 5000:1 Contrast ratio.
Not all that great.

Ok, so myths of plasma.

THEY DO NOT LEAK GAS AND DO NOT NEED TO BE RECHARGED.

Also, the half-life issue with plasma is almost a non existant one. I believe panasonic Plasma's come with roughly a 50,000 hour half life.

If you use the TV 8 hours a day 7 days a week, yer looking at 2920 hours. Roughly 3,000 hours. That means that the TV will reach Half-life in 16 years of HEAVY use. Probably start to be noticable compared to a new tv around 10 years of heavy use. You will probably have thrown the TV away or sold it before it gets to half-life.

If you want the HDTV model, you need to buy the TH-42PX60U model, not the TH-42PD60U


I paid about 2k for my plasma about a year and a half ago. So far i have nothing but good to say about it. The pic is rediculously awesome. Yes, it is an ED. Do i have buyers remorse? No, actually i would have been annoyed to spend the extra 600 and get the HD when from 8 feet away i cant even tell the difference anyways and my couch is about 12 feet from the TV.

If you decide you MUST have HD, do yourself a HUGE favor and dont go with some no-name brand to save money. Panasonic hands-down makes the BEST plasma TV's, better than phillips, hitachi, zenith, sony, LG, any other brand.

1080i or 720p are nice, but make damn sure you can SEE a difference before chinking out the extra money. Go find an Ultimate Electronics or something and see for yourself.

If i were to go with a larger plasma though, i would definatly get HD, the bigger the screen the easier it is to tell the difference between HD and ED.

Jack The Ripper 11-26-2006 03:44 PM

Oh yeah, and they DO generate heat. like.... a tiny bit... not enough to raise the temp in a room. I wouldnt even be concerned about that unless you plan to recess it into a wall, and even then, ventilation is not really a difficult thing to figure out.

and the panasonics plasma's dont BUZZ at high altitude like other plasma's do.

oh and they look sweet.

and go to overstock.com to get a wallmount and save a hundred bucks.

And Screen Burn-in is not really that huge of an issue. Ive never had a problem with it. if you play more than a couple hours at a time then just pause the game, change the channel a few times, then go right back to playing.

Ask SpinMedia, i think he has a EDTV Panny Plasma and he loves it. I dont think he has ever had a problem with brun in or anything either.

Stan 11-26-2006 03:47 PM

thanks for the great advice guys its helped me out a lot, but im probably going to buy the TH-42PX60U model, not the TH-42PD60U the one with HDTV its $1300 on newegg.com its $100 difference between versions.. my final question is I want to be able to mount it on my wall are all plasmas able to mount to walls? espcially the one I plan on purchasing.. and ive looked at mounts but none of them list anything about what brands they will work on or w/e..

Exit 11-26-2006 03:53 PM

Most mounts are universal and will fit all popular brands of plasma tv's. Usually they will say what size they are capable of holding.

Stan 11-26-2006 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Exit (Post 227224)
Most mounts are universal and will fit all popular brands of plasma tv's. Usually they will say what size they are capable of holding.

Im looking for one that can tilt side to side and back and forth, I was looking at ones with arms so you can like turn it and point it from one side of the room to another but it was only for LCD displays for some reason..

Jack The Ripper 11-26-2006 04:06 PM

go to overstock.com you can find universal mountings a helluvalot cheaper there than anywhere esle.

Jack The Ripper 11-26-2006 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Stan (Post 227233)
Im looking for one that can tilt side to side and back and forth, I was looking at ones with arms so you can like turn it and point it from one side of the room to another but it was only for LCD displays for some reason..

Be ready to shell out 400-500 for one of those

Jack The Ripper 11-26-2006 04:12 PM

http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2....ROD_ID=1033163

thats the wallmount i have.

http://www.mountsdirect.com/?gclid=C...FSjMYAoduxPcjA
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they have some articulating ones for 250 or so...

some of the LCD ones may work, but honestly if yer looking at an articulating wall mount you really dont wanna go cheap when yer looking at a plasma that costs well over a thousand dollars.

http://www.mountsdirect.com/product_...products_id=87

Stan 11-26-2006 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper (Post 227237)
http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2....ROD_ID=1033163

thats the wallmount i have.

http://www.mountsdirect.com/?gclid=C...FSjMYAoduxPcjA
'
they have some articulating ones for 250 or so...

some of the LCD ones may work, but honestly if yer looking at an articulating wall mount you really dont wanna go cheap when yer looking at a plasma that costs well over a thousand dollars.

http://www.mountsdirect.com/product_...products_id=87



ya, I might just get a regular one.. 250-500 is alot for a wallmount, I just want to be able to turn the tv so if im on my computer I can turn the tv towards me..

Stan 11-26-2006 06:41 PM

Well, I made the purchase!!! I bought the Panasonic TH42PX60U Model with a Sanus Wall mount heres a link to it!



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824187086


Got the TV and wallmount with Ups guaranteed 3 day delivery for just over $1500 bucks!! cant wait ill post pics of my setup when I got it all mounted!!

Jack The Ripper 11-26-2006 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Stan (Post 227317)
Well, I made the purchase!!! I bought the Panasonic TH42PX60U Model with a Sanus Wall mount heres a link to it!



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824187086


Got the TV and wallmount with Ups guaranteed 3 day delivery for just over $1500 bucks!! cant wait ill post pics of my setup when I got it all mounted!!

Congrats man!!!!! You will NOT be disappointed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stan 12-05-2006 01:50 PM

jack I just got the tv today and hooked it up its been running for a couple hours.. how long you think I should wait to play xbox360 on the tv with HDTV?

Jack The Ripper 12-05-2006 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Stan (Post 229650)
jack I just got the tv today and hooked it up its been running for a couple hours.. how long you think I should wait to play xbox360 on the tv with HDTV?

Why are you waiting? Just hook it up and play! lol...

there is no "break in" period on the plasma like there is on a new car. lol

Jam it out!

Jack The Ripper 12-05-2006 02:23 PM

oh yah...

PICSORBAN!

venom 12-05-2006 06:14 PM

Saw this thread late but you made the right choice. Dont spend alot of money now on a 1080p as the major manufacturers are going to be cranking out alot of tvs this time next year when there plants are 100% operational so the 42 1080p you buy today you can get a 52 next year.

The native resolution of the xbox 360 is 720p so unless you have PS3(they dont even have a good game to play with 1080p) whats the point. The only next gen game out today from the top 3 consoles is Gears of war and using the Component cables it looks amazing. I bought a Samsung 42" and sometime in the next 2 years I ll purchase the mother of all screens.

Jack The Ripper 12-05-2006 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by venom (Post 229779)
Saw this thread late but you made the right choice. Dont spend alot of money now on a 1080p as the major manufacturers are going to be cranking out alot of tvs this time next year when there plants are 100% operational so the 42 1080p you buy today you can get a 52 next year.

The native resolution of the xbox 360 is 720p so unless you have PS3(they dont even have a good game to play with 1080p) whats the point. The only next gen game out today from the top 3 consoles is Gears of war and using the Component cables it looks amazing. I bought a Samsung 42" and sometime in the next 2 years I ll purchase the mother of all screens.

The problem with the whole waiting thing is that the next year they will be cheaper and bigger, and the next year as well, and even the one after that. eventually you find yourself waiting 4 years for something you want. :breakdancesmilie:

I've got Gears of War hooked up with the components to my ED plasma and damn, yer right, it looks incredible.

Isnt Fear a nextgen game as well? that looks awesome on the commercials

venom 12-05-2006 06:42 PM

Fear looks good but GOW is up to date on the latest effects compared to Fear which is a PCand has been out for a while. The only games Im getting now is GOW,fear and Double AGent for my wife,she loves Sam. All the other games that have come out Ill wait till they are in the used and get them for half. If you have played Fear on the PC dont get the 360 ver as its the same.


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