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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:13 AM
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you see, im not the only who thinks this.
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by zigzagg321
lmao...you and him are both wrong...lmao
noooooooooooo, not my idol, lol
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:17 AM
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heres something i do know. there are 8 planets in our solar system
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:18 AM
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at a stand still which the plane would be at would not generate a true moving speed thus not creating the wind that is used to lift the plane. You see the air that travels under and over the wings creates the needed lift could only be created my the actual moving force or drag only made by something actually moving not in a stand still move. take in consideration if you go outside and run as you run you feel the wind blowing faster now if you go and run on a treadmill you will notice that there is no wind generated. so you see the main factor to get a plane off the ground is wind to actually carry it all the engines do is keep it moving through the air so it can maintain the wind speed to keep it a float or in this case to get it off the ground.
So no wind no flight its simple! all you would be doing is wasting fuel.
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:19 AM
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OK, simple solution. Someone have a treadmill? And nother person with a R/C airplane? That will solve the problem.

Or, just email NASA, I dont think anyone will argue with them..
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabbit
OK, simple solution. Someone have a treadmill? And nother person with a R/C airplane? That will solve the problem.

Or, just email NASA, I dont think anyone will argue with them..
the rc thing will be hard for us, cuz you have to adjust the treadmill to the speed of the rc plane
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:23 AM
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no wind on flight. treadmills dont generate wind or drag! simple as that. only thing the engines will be doing is keeping it from being flung off of the "treadway" and all the treadmill will be doing is keeping the wheel spinning
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:25 AM
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but there will not be wind generated IT NEEDS WIND TO GET LIFT OFF. its simple psysics of how a plane works
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by zigzagg321
no, 9.
tricked ya. its just been anounced thats theres only 8. Pluto is no longer one, whos the dummy now, lol
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:28 AM
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the wheels are free spinning in the air, but not really on the ground. the most important thing is that the speed of the treadmill is connected to the throttle. if that wanst true, then yes it could take off an a reallllllllllllllly long runway
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by zigzagg321
blow it out Uranus.
no cuz then i would be wrong and their would only be 7
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:31 AM
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ive got a bunch of crap to do today for classes. i cant be on here all day. have fun guys. but i bet you i could race that plane on foot and beat it in a 40yrd dash
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:33 AM
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Here's another scenario to explain why the plane will lift off:

Imagine you are standing on a skateboard which is, in turn, on an ordinary treadmill. You are holding onto a rope that is attached to the wall in front of you. The treadmill starts up, and the wheels of the skateboard start spinning. Now, no matter how fast the treadmill spins, if you want to move forward, all you have to do is pull on the rope, and the skateboard will roll forward along the belt.

and, damn all of you. I could really care less about this, but nooooooo I have to be **** and go researching all over the internet to find out about this shiot!

Dammit, someone owes me a beer!
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabbit
Here's another scenario to explain why the plane will lift off:




and, damn all of you. I could really care less about this, but nooooooo I have to be **** and go researching all over the internet to find out about this shiot!

Dammit, someone owes me a beer!
i got 25 cents in my pocket. want me to mail it to ya
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabbit
Here's another scenario to explain why the plane will lift off:




and, damn all of you. I could really care less about this, but nooooooo I have to be **** and go researching all over the internet to find out about this shiot!

Dammit, someone owes me a beer!
but that concept wont work. you are adding a wall and a rope into the equation. lets say you strap a rocket to the board. once that rocket lites up, the treadmill goes the speed of the rocket. the boards going nowhere
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:40 AM
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i dont buy that the wheels are free spinning on the ground. you have the weight of the plane on them. go try to turn a wheel on a jet. not going to move. dang guys. i got to go. my brains fried and i have business to take care of. im going to be at a thousand post in no time this way
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 1 BAD S
but that concept wont work. you are adding a wall and a rope into the equation. lets say you strap a rocket to the board. once that rocket lites up, the treadmill goes the speed of the rocket. the boards going nowhere
But, the rope and wall represent the "thrust" which has nothing to do with the treadmill and skateboard. The wheels on the plane have no powertrain hooked to them, so they just free spin! It's mostly the same with landing a plane. The wheels do have brakes, but not enough to stop the plane. They always use reverse thrust to stop the plane, and move the flaps on the wings to help.

Trust me, I was right there with you on this one thinking it wouldn't work. But, putting ALL the factors together I see that it would take off.
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 11:10 AM
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awww come on, we can get 3 or 4 more pages of the same things back and forth...................................
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 11:20 AM
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i cant believe people keep arguing about this . . . IT WILL TAKE OFF.
 
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Old 08-24-2006 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by zigzagg321
if you moved the ground beneath the wheel(treadmill effect) that wheel would move.

I'll leave this thread knowing that I am 100% correct...and cheers to all those that understand that the plane CAN take off and why.
i still think the plane is too heavy for it to do that. the treadmill will have to break the weight of the plane, which is possible. it would just have to be pretty fast. i just took a shower, and i thought i was wrong. but then i thought i was right. i know i will leave this thread 50, 50. lol
 



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