That's what i'm sayin. I totally agree with that statement.

They think they are better than anyone who isn't in a vette like there a god or something that is why i'm building my car with a 5.4 with forged internals and then put Twin turbos. I don't want any vette to beat me on the street. If one does it's going to be a lingenfelter. (not sure on spelling)

 

^ Actually some of the 03/04 Cobra owners are just as bad. Go to SVTP forums to find dangerously high levels of arrogance. Many of them even look down on 99-01 Cobras and Machs.

 

good point.

 

Great point man....I joined over there a while back and started posting and I posted something about exhaust or something really simple and wasn't even being a smart azz..... and some dude with an 04 cobra told me to shut up because most family cars have the same amount of HP as my Mach....I was like wow...haven't been back since..... COBRA'S RULE ALL! :surrender

 

I find it humorous to see some Cobra owners get bent out of shape whenever someone calls their car a Mustang. It's as bad as the SRT4 owner arguing that his car isn't a Neon.

I do know for a fact quite a few of them were former LS1 owners. Maybe that explains their distaste for other Mustangs? The Mustang on Mustang hate is ridiculous. I can't recall seeng z06 guys pissing on the C5/6s. IMO, those few haters gives the other decent Cobra owners a bad name.

 

Whoa, this thread went south quickly! The fact of the matter is, the compared THE FASTEST productions MUSTANG against the base corvette model and got its *** whooped! I love mustang, but you gotta give credit to chevy for building the best corvette up to date....

 

OH COME ON! Who keeps deleting my posts!!!

 

I'll take the one right after yours Red.

 

Huh? no posts were deleted from this thread. You sure it went through?

 

That's what i was thinking....he's gone bonkers..

 

and the z06 cost quite a bit more doesn't it?

 

Yes, the Z06 does cost a bit more. Bout 64k for the msrp. Although, I think the base C6 can be had for right around 50k. With the GT's markups, its going to be pushing Z06 territory, and honestly, its going to hurt ford I think.

 

thats a lot different when you're talking about markups... i've heard a lot of rumors that you wont find a z06 under $90k. if thats true then even with markups on the gt500 its still not in the same territory. the gt500 is a tad over $40k and the z06 like you said is $64k... doesnt matter what the markups are, its a different class.

bottom line. lighter parts cost a lot more money... if you want a gt500 that weighs in around what the z06 weighs you're gonna be spending z06 money to get it.

 

ull be spending zo6 money for the gt500 now anyways ..ford might aswell lighten the fat bitch up lol

 

I dunno, must just be me, but the people that pay a markup on a GT500 are fools. Ford is projected to make 7500 of those things, there is no sense in a markup like they are talking. Ebay is going for anywhere to 15k to 20k over msrp. Insanity. It doesnt have to be a Z06 to hang with, if not beat the GT500, get a stock C6 and be done with it. BUT I have to give a selling point to the GT, as it has 4 seats, although having ridden in the back of an 05 v6, they are basically useless.

 

i wouldnt go as far as saying they're useless... the 05+'s have more room in their back seat than i do in mine... but i definitely agree that people that agree to pay the markup on these cars are fools...

ford isnt marking up the prices at the dealerships, its the dealerships themselves... they see a chance to make some extra money and are going to take it. the price will come down when nobody buys them.

back on topic
40k < 64k or for those that want to talk about after markups
50-60k < 80-90k. there's a big difference in price. the z06 should be faster. id say for the gt500 to keep up the way it is for so much less is a feat in itself. its doing damn good.

i actually met somebody yesterday that paid $94k for his z06.

 

Ouch on the 94k Z06. He shouldve waited, and yes, the stealerships are the biggest enemy here. I just dont see how ford lets it happen, but I guess as long as they are selling the cars...

 

Lmao @ trying to rationalize buying a shelby over a zooh...i'm a big mustang fan just like any of you! But the fact of the matter remains that you're buying a sportscar not a family grocery getter! I don't think those seeking to buy a vette, take any consideration on whether or not they have 4 seats! The zo6 is a world class asskicer giving you supercar performance at a fraction of the cost! The shelby gt500 is a joke just like the "00 R. The performance numbers it puts down are just plain dissapointing for the power its packing and the money they'll go for!
Props 2 chevy for building a true american asskicer!!!

 

you are totally missing the point... more money = lighter car, lighter car= faster car...

you pay more for the c6 and the z06 so they should be faster... why is it so bad for the shelby to not keep up when its heaver and cheaper

 

You are mistaken, the shelby gt500 will go for alot more than a plain jane c6 vette which will hand it its ***! If you don't think so...go check out the prices on c6's!

 

it will go for more because of dealer markup... and because ****in shelby put his name on it.

i totally agree that the vette is a great car but more performance comes at a cost. the c6 is at least 5 grand more than the shelby... im not talking about dealer markup here. dealer markups are so high because there are idiots that will actually pay that much.

 

I agree completely! I finally got around to reading the C/D article and I was really really disapointed with the performance of the GT500.....The article pointed out that the 03/04 Cobra runs the same 1/4 mile time as the GT500....that should not happen. Ford needs to figure out how to cut down the weight because a 3986 pound car is not cutting it even with 500hp! Very disapointing!

 

I am more happy with the powerplant they built.

the Terminator Engine setup is consitered the most popular engine setup in fords history.

that being said, if the 5.4 has the same qualities as the 03/04 cobra engines, then we're going to have a lot of fun engines to play with, expecually if ford sells them as crate engines.

I cant wait to see the blown 5.4L engine in fox bodies and SN95's etc.


SHOULD BE FUN!!!

and screw chevy, they're just trying to turn the Corvette into another piece of Euro trash.

the Corvette never BEAT the imports, it joined them :surrender

 

Yeah I agree on the powerplant comment.....I'm sure with a couple of little mods those things will be REALLY impressive, but the weight issue is where I get concerned. There is no reason for a mustang to weigh 4,000lbs.....figure it out ford!

 

What exactly is European about a Normally aspirated pushrod 505 hp 11 to 1 compression ratio 427 asskicker? I have a problem when a car with almost 100 more hp cant turn better times than the last model car.

 

That's what I'm saying!

 

I dont like the way they went with the looks.


It just seems like every time they put a new one out it looks more and more european.

 

Ah, maybe they learned something from the euro's about aerodynamics....who knows

 

Id rather be aerodynamic and look european, than look american and have the aerodynamics of a shoe. Lets face it, Less drag = more speed.

 

Me too! I was just looking on the Mach 1 registry and some of the members made a good point that C/D can't really drive mustangs for crap....they were the same magazine that said the Mach 1 had IRS and could run the 1/4 mile at 13.8, while every other magazine were turning a times of 13.1-13.3. But I also heard the Road n Track magazine had the Shelby doing a 13.1....I will wait to see what Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords can do with it!

Regardless the Shelby is a fat pig and needs to go on a serious diet.....it looks like so far the 03/04 Cobra is still the KING!!!!!!