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BikerSk8rKid 01-27-2009 09:33 PM

Help!
 
I've been having some problem with my back brakes, it's either the rotor or the pads, I'm not sure. I do have some cheap CarQuest pads on there, I swear they're a piece of s***. All I know is you can hear them squeaking really bad and it's annoying.

Question: What are good rear brake pads for a stock brake system and how much? Same with rotor's too please.

1995 Ford Mustang 5.0 GT

NewMustangMan 01-27-2009 10:14 PM

When you get new pads and put them on there is this red crap you put on that stops the squeaking. i dont remember what it is called. but it works.

BlueOvalFanatic 01-27-2009 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by BikerSk8rKid (Post 379607)
I've been having some problem with my back brakes, it's either the rotor or the pads, I'm not sure. I do have some cheap CarQuest pads on there, I swear they're a piece of s***. All I know is you can hear them squeaking really bad and it's annoying.

Question: What are good rear brake pads for a stock brake system and how much? Same with rotor's too please.

1995 Ford Mustang 5.0 GT

Never fear, man...Help is on it's way. We are overnighting a jack, lug wrench, prescription eye glasses, and a flashlight to your location. Stay home tomorrow, as a signature is required.

As for the pads, well...for you, I'd recommend the SFM pads. Just head for your local parts house and ask for them by name. They are somewhat new, so they might not even have them in their computer system yet. If there is any confusion, as for the Stay-Frees...Maxis to be more specific.

j/k...I know Im going to hell now, but I couldn't resist. :flameON:

BikerSk8rKid 01-27-2009 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by NewMustangMan (Post 379616)
When you get new pads and put them on there is this red crap you put on that stops the squeaking. i dont remember what it is called. but it works.

When I came back from California, well more then half way home I f***ed up my car and yeah, long story short. I got new brake pads last year, cheap a** s*** from CarQuest. My friend did all the work for me since I'm a car noob. I remember seeing him put some stuff on back side of the brake pad, but he didn't do it to the other side, and I think it was orange. He said the same thing you said. Oh and he took off the metal or plastic stuff that sits on the back side of the pads, like it's a cover or something, I don't know how to explain it.

Find out the name, so I can fix mine. :P What are good brake pads though? I don't really care for that stuff because it looks ugly. :/ Unless it would blend in, but yeah. haha

BikerSk8rKid 01-27-2009 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by BlueOvalFanatic (Post 379620)
Never fear, man...Help is on it's way. We are overnighting a jack, lug wrench, prescription eye glasses, and a flashlight to your location. Stay home tomorrow, as a signature is required.

As for the pads, well...for you, I'd recommend the SFM pads. Just head for your local parts house and ask for them by name. They are somewhat new, so they might not even have them in their computer system yet. If there is any confusion, as for the Stay-Frees...Maxis to be more specific.

j/k...I know Im going to hell now, but I couldn't resist. :flameON:

Hey that was pretty good, but too bad you couldn't come do it. :O Kidding, I would want to do it, so I can learn. Which I've learned a lot from here, thanks to all you who helped, and mostly to Dustin. How much are rear rotors?

BlueOvalFanatic 01-27-2009 10:52 PM

Hhhmmmmm...Well, lets just say the Stay-Free "Maxis" are usually just for the front, and ironically, thats usually where most of the friction is. I mean, depending on age, there can be more friction in the rear than in the front...just be sure to use alot of that orange lube.

BikerSk8rKid 01-28-2009 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by BlueOvalFanatic (Post 379633)
Hhhmmmmm...Well, lets just say the Stay-Free "Maxis" are usually just for the front, and ironically, thats usually where most of the friction is. I mean, depending on age, there can be more friction in the rear than in the front...just be sure to use alot of that orange lube.

My front brakes are doing just fine, I actually never changed them and not having a problem with them. It's just the back brakes. :/ Thank you!

Black Sunshine 01-28-2009 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by BlueOvalFanatic
As for the pads, well...for you, I'd recommend the SFM pads. Just head for your local parts house and ask for them by name. They are somewhat new, so they might not even have them in their computer system yet. If there is any confusion, as for the Stay-Frees...Maxis to be more specific.

The Extra Stay-Free "Maxis" work better than the regular SFM pads. I had the opportunity of trying those last month. They control that extra friction a little better, they're thicker in order to absorb more wear and they're a little wider than normal so you have extra stopping power.

Trust me. I know these things. ;)

spike_africa 01-28-2009 07:45 AM

Just because the pads make noise does not mean they are bad. If they are new like you say then you just need to take them back off and relube the calipers and add some anti squeal to the back of the pads and it should stop making noise. You should check your front pads also while your at it to see how much material is left on them.

bassman97 01-28-2009 07:56 AM

Carquest products are not crap, especially since most of the time, their parts are better than OEM. Now, when you got new pads, did you turn the rotors also? Also, did you break the pads in? Neglecting both these steps would cause squeaking. I would also check that you didn't glaze the rotors, which would also cause noise. Now, if all this checks out, I also second putting anti-squeal on the pads.

Stephen4036 01-28-2009 08:51 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OMG IM CRYING.. Blue Oval, theres more friction in the front depending on age! ahahhahahahahahaha

BlueOvalFanatic 01-28-2009 03:07 PM

LOL...Anyway, biker- The noise could be not lubed on the back good enough, or it could be just a cheap pad. I put some Auto Zone cheapies on my wifes car, and they squealed bad. I put the mid-grade pads on, and it was fixed. Your problem could also be the fact that he left off the metal piece. If it comes with it, it's usually a safe bet that you need it.

Another thing thats a possibility is on my DD, I had some NAPA pads on the back, and the inward side of the pad stuck out a little too far, and when the brakes werre applied, the edge of the bad would hit the beveled part of the rotor, by the hub.

Just take 'em apart, check 'em out, and go from there. I personally like ceramic pads, as they dont seem to squeak, and they dont leave behind the brake dust all over your wheels.

With the rotors, I couldn't tell you, but you can find them online at any parts store. They are usually pretty cheap, as they are "disposable". By the time they get a little wear on them, thay would be technically too thin to turn on a lathe.

My bad on the SFM pads...I'd go with Black Sunshines suggestion- the Extra Stay-Free Maxis seem to be the way to go.

BikerSk8rKid 01-28-2009 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by spike_africa (Post 379664)
Just because the pads make noise does not mean they are bad. If they are new like you say then you just need to take them back off and relube the calipers and add some anti squeal to the back of the pads and it should stop making noise. You should check your front pads also while your at it to see how much material is left on them.

Yeah, well I went to California and on the way back my brake pad fell off or something and I lost my brakes. Well by the way time I was home I guess my rotor was chewed up badly, my Caliper was done, and my brakes were gone. So I got a new Caliper, new brake pads, and then my car came with an extra rotor. This was like last June or so I think, it was still Summer, haha. He did put that Anti Squeal stuff on one side, but it's still making noise. How do I relube the calipers?


Originally Posted by bassman97 (Post 379671)
Carquest products are not crap, especially since most of the time, their parts are better than OEM. Now, when you got new pads, did you turn the rotors also? Also, did you break the pads in? Neglecting both these steps would cause squeaking. I would also check that you didn't glaze the rotors, which would also cause noise. Now, if all this checks out, I also second putting anti-squeal on the pads.

Don't get me wrong I do like CarQuest, but just there is some things I don't like and then some of the workers. I think the brake pads I bought are pieces of shit, they were so cheap, I think like $16, but I could be wrong. I don't think the rotors were were turned, I'm actually sure they weren't. I think I wore them in, I'm not really sure. :/ If I remember correctly the brake shop my friend owns, he turned them, and he said they were warpped or something.


Originally Posted by BlueOvalFanatic (Post 379788)
LOL...Anyway, biker- The noise could be not lubed on the back good enough, or it could be just a cheap pad. I put some Auto Zone cheapies on my wifes car, and they squealed bad. I put the mid-grade pads on, and it was fixed. Your problem could also be the fact that he left off the metal piece. If it comes with it, it's usually a safe bet that you need it.

Another thing thats a possibility is on my DD, I had some NAPA pads on the back, and the inward side of the pad stuck out a little too far, and when the brakes werre applied, the edge of the bad would hit the beveled part of the rotor, by the hub.

Just take 'em apart, check 'em out, and go from there. I personally like ceramic pads, as they dont seem to squeak, and they dont leave behind the brake dust all over your wheels.

With the rotors, I couldn't tell you, but you can find them online at any parts store. They are usually pretty cheap, as they are "disposable". By the time they get a little wear on them, thay would be technically too thin to turn on a lathe.

My bad on the SFM pads...I'd go with Black Sunshines suggestion- the Extra Stay-Free Maxis seem to be the way to go.

When he lubed them he only did it like in the middle where it's not going to be tocuhed by anything. Yeah he took them off, he said it wouldn't matter, and they pretty much fell off the second we got them out of the package.

I just looked up rotors on AutoZone website and I see two different kinds
Duralast / Brake Rotor - Rear $34.99 with picture (rotor only)
Baer Decela / Brake Rotor - Rear $219.99 with no picture (pair)

Do I have to apply the Anti Squeal on the whole back part of the brakd pad or just where the Calipers touch?

bassman97 01-29-2009 05:56 AM

If he said your rotors were warped, get new rotors. Turning them will only make it easier for them to warp later on. As for rotors, stick w/ stock or Brembo. Tire Rack has you covered there. As for the Anti squeal, it needs to be applied on the pad where the caliper touches it. So the whole back side should be fine on the piston side but on the other side, just the edges of the back since the caliper doesn't touch the middle.

MustangSteve 02-02-2009 03:53 PM

I agree with Bassman-

Take a look at your rotors. If they are warped you will need to get new ones. Turning is a simple temporary fix that will not be fun but in the long-run due to them warping. I use HawkPads for my front and you can get some decent ones for the rear. Most of the stopping power is from the front anyways. For the high pitch sounds you can put some grease on your caliper. Remember don't touch the brake pad with your fingers because they leave oil. Any oil on the pads will need to burn off or be warned of the sounds they can make lol.

BikerSk8rKid 02-02-2009 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by MustangSteve (Post 381121)
I agree with Bassman-

Take a look at your rotors. If they are warped you will need to get new ones. Turning is a simple temporary fix that will not be fun but in the long-run due to them warping. I use HawkPads for my front and you can get some decent ones for the rear. Most of the stopping power is from the front anyways. For the high pitch sounds you can put some grease on your caliper. Remember don't touch the brake pad with your fingers because they leave oil. Any oil on the pads will need to burn off or be warned of the sounds they can make lol.

I got some of that grease stuff, but I actually got something called CRC Disc Brake Quite, it's a spray kind. Should I take it back and get the lube stuff type?

I thought about Hawk Brake Pads, but I'm not looking to buy expensive stuff.

TUFF 4.6 02-03-2009 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by Black Sunshine (Post 379661)
The Extra Stay-Free "Maxis" work better than the regular SFM pads. I had the opportunity of trying those last month. They control that extra friction a little better, they're thicker in order to absorb more wear and they're a little wider than normal so you have extra stopping power.

Trust me. I know these things. ;)

YOU'RE SICK !!!

Black Sunshine 02-03-2009 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by TUFF 4.6 (Post 381250)
YOU'RE SICK !!!

I know. Thanks for the compliment! :)


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