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jon2325 08-25-2008 07:14 PM

premium fuel??
 
some one was trying to tell me today that its not good to run premium gas in my engine.. he said it would burn the valves or somethin... is this true?
(keep in mind i'm a 6er..)

Dream 08-25-2008 07:18 PM

totally not true.....just useless. i use cheep shit in mine and it works just as good as some1 that used the expensive stuff.

(been tested by me and a few friends, very very VERY little difference)

spike_africa 08-25-2008 07:39 PM

Higher octane doesn't do anything but keep detonation away. Unless your tuned for above 87 dont use anything else as its a waste of money.

Lances03SVT 08-25-2008 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by spike_africa (Post 348014)
Higher octane doesn't do anything but keep detonation away. Unless your tuned for above 87 dont use anything else as its a waste of money.

Yep,your just throwing away your money and probally making it not run as good as it could.

jon2325 08-25-2008 07:49 PM

another quickie.. the sct says 91 but my area only has 89 octane.. is it ok to run the 89 on a 91 tune?

Lances03SVT 08-25-2008 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by jon2325 (Post 348019)
another quickie.. the sct says 91 but my area only has 89 octane.. is it ok to run the 89 on a 91 tune?

You should be fine.

00gt_conv 08-25-2008 08:10 PM

Get an 89 octane tune

spike_africa 08-25-2008 08:13 PM

91 octane tunes should be run with a min of 91 if you don't have that you have I would assume 93 and should be using that instead. You can even add a bit more timing in too.

JackThe Ripper 08-25-2008 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by jon2325 (Post 348019)
another quickie.. the sct says 91 but my area only has 89 octane.. is it ok to run the 89 on a 91 tune?

You only have 89?... damn.. colorado only has 91. where the hell is 93 and why does anyone need it? lol.

anyways, if you retard the timing a little you should be able to run 89.


...

wait for somone who knows more than me to confirm this before doing anything.

lol

00gt_conv 08-25-2008 08:55 PM

We have 93 is Illinois and that's good for what about 15-20 hp for an extra $1.50 per fill up.

spike_africa 08-25-2008 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by 00gt_conv (Post 348058)
We have 93 is Illinois and that's good for what about 15-20 hp for an extra $1.50 per fill up.

Nope octane doesn't give you horsepower it controls detonation.

01 RED GT 08-25-2008 09:39 PM

really so it doesnt make any difference at all what octane i use on my gt? cuz ive been running 89 for a while b/c i heard it was better for my engine by a few other guys with stangs, they said their car will start to ping if they use 87 and maybe its my imagination but it seems like my car runs better with the 89 lately than it use to with 87

01FR500 08-25-2008 09:49 PM

Unless your car is tuned for a higher octane, or you have detonation, use what the owners manual recommends. I use 87 in the GT becuase I don't have it tuned for a higher octane fuel. I used the highest octane in the v6 becuase it was tuned for it.

gotMACH04 08-26-2008 09:04 AM

we have 93 here, and its what goes in the mach:cool:

deputy2313 08-26-2008 10:16 AM

i have 87, 89, and 93 here in NC then you find the occasional 100 octane stuff lol

TUFF 4.6 08-26-2008 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by spike_africa (Post 348079)
Nope octane doesn't give you horsepower it controls detonation.

Yall listen, the man knows what he talkin about. ^
Octane is resistance to detonation. No matter how small the amount of detonation the knock sensors will pick it up and retard your timing to prevent engine damage. Higher octane fuel will allow your engine to add more timing which is more horsepower. So higher octane fuel is better unless you have a 87 tune and the ECM will limit total timing advance, no matter what octane you have in the tank.

JackThe Ripper 08-26-2008 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by TUFF 4.6 (Post 348205)
Yall listen, the man knows what he talkin about. ^
Octane is resistance to detonation. No matter how small the amount of detonation the knock sensors will pick it up and retard your timing to prevent engine damage. Higher octane fuel will allow your engine to add more timing which is more horsepower. So higher octane fuel is better unless you have a 87 tune and the ECM will limit total timing advance, no matter what octane you have in the tank.


wait... so the computer will detect the detonation and automatically retard the timing to adjust to 87 octane if yer sittin with a 91oc tune?

Lazerred6 08-26-2008 03:01 PM

My friend runs 110 in his RX7. I tell him it's pointless because it really doesn't give the car anymore power. However the flames that shoot out the exhaust are way bigger and brighter with 110 than 87 :flamed: and he has duel side exit so it looks pretty sweet

spike_africa 08-26-2008 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by TUFF 4.6 (Post 348205)
Yall listen, the man knows what he talkin about. ^
Octane is resistance to detonation. No matter how small the amount of detonation the knock sensors will pick it up and retard your timing to prevent engine damage. Higher octane fuel will allow your engine to add more timing which is more horsepower. So higher octane fuel is better unless you have a 87 tune and the ECM will limit total timing advance, no matter what octane you have in the tank.

2v cars dont have knock sensors.

Flynnster 08-26-2008 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by Lazerred6 (Post 348211)
My friend runs 110 in his RX7. I tell him it's pointless because it really doesn't give the car anymore power. However the flames that shoot out the exhaust are way bigger and brighter with 110 than 87 :flamed: and he has duel side exit so it looks pretty sweet

Video?!?!?!

00gt_conv 08-26-2008 08:58 PM

Well sorry for any confusion, but doesn't it gain some horsepower from 93 octane + a tune?

Flynnster 08-26-2008 09:00 PM

With a tune yes, running higher octane will get horsepower. Without a tune it is jstu a waste of money.

3.8LMustang 08-26-2008 09:11 PM

we got 93 here in cc,tx in which goes in my v6

3.8LMustang 08-26-2008 09:11 PM

we got 93 here in cc,tx in which goes in my v6 :D and my stang is tuned to 91 octane

Lazerred6 08-27-2008 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by Flynnster (Post 348259)
Video?!?!?!

I'll work on it

spike_africa 08-27-2008 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by 00gt_conv (Post 348275)
Well sorry for any confusion, but doesn't it gain some horsepower from 93 octane + a tune?

Like I said the octane doesn't make horsepower. The power from a tune comes from the tune alone, the fact that you need to run higher octane is to keep the detonation away as with a tune you are running more timing. So again the octane doesn't make any horsepower.

TUFF 4.6 08-28-2008 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by spike_africa (Post 348242)
2v cars dont have knock sensors.

Sorry for posting bad info. I though that those two black things, one one each head were the knock sensors. What are these? They are mounted on a stud at the top of the head at the front. They have a single wire. :confused:

spike_africa 08-29-2008 06:27 AM

I think I know what your talking about, those are just engine grounds for the harness. only 4v cars have them. I think 3v cars do also, but us 2v guys don't have them.


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