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customstang 04-12-2006 04:57 PM

Yep I'm a dumbass!
 
I was driving down the highway today and was going to pass a car, so I tried downshifting into 3rd, it went in hard for some reason and I was like 'what the hell' then I started to let the clutch out and it got to about 4,000rpm's and i thought it was almost fully disengaged so I let it out all the way... sure enough I had shifted into 1st :bash: :censored: :wallbash:

RPM's jumped to 7200-7500 somewhere in there (btw redline is 6800) and I quickly pushed the clutch back in and proceeded to shift into third. I'd say it was doing about 55 when I started going into gear and 45 when the clutch was all the way out. I'm just wondering if my idiotic mistake is gonna shorten the life of the drivetrain (engine/tranny?)

I wanted to cry I felt so bad because I try and take such good care of it and now I feel like it's got 100,000 more miles on it.

Just wanted to rant and find out if you guys think I would've done any harm?

Lances03SVT 04-12-2006 05:00 PM

I did'nt think that was possible!!

I did it on a 69 Chevelle automatic one time and locked the motor up.Damn that salesman was pissed LOL

Jack The Ripper 04-12-2006 05:03 PM

Ouch dude. Sorry to hear that. car should be fine though. as long as you diddnt just sit there gaping at the rpms and hit the clutch, you should be allright.
just be careful

customstang 04-12-2006 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Lances03GT
I did'nt think that was possible!!

Oh, It's possible! And no I didn't sit and stare at the RPMs I hit the clutch as fast as possible and then started using :censored: words...

I should've known since it went into gear so hard. I hate the stupid stock shifter, it's so rubbery. I'd get a performance one but dont have money plus I had one on my V6 and it let a lot more noise in, so I don't want that too bad.

customstang 04-12-2006 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Lances03GT
I did'nt think that was possible!!

I did it on a 69 Chevelle automatic one time and locked the motor up.Damn that salesman was pissed LOL

What do you mean you locked the motor up?

3V2000GT 04-12-2006 05:12 PM

ive done that before, it should be fine, at least you didnt shift into reverse, but i dont think thats possible

customstang 04-12-2006 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by The2000GT
ive done that before, it should be fine, at least you didnt shift into reverse, but i dont think thats possible

Oh, that's possible too! (No don't worry I haven't done that)... One of my relatives had an old beater truck so he went flying down the highway and slammed it into reverse, left long skid marks until it stopped and then started going in reverse. Needless to say, the engine blew up after about 3 times.

dsg_gt2004 04-12-2006 05:21 PM

hahaha...i think the newer cars have a reverse lock which technically makes it impossible to shift into reverse while moving at higher speeds

95STANG 04-12-2006 06:00 PM

Not a 2001 Dodge Ram 1500....Trust me they dont have a reverse lock

dsg_gt2004 04-12-2006 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by 95STANG
Not a 2001 Dodge Ram 1500....Trust me they dont have a reverse lock

haha..ill take your word on it man..i thought the new manual transmissions have the reverse locks

spike_africa 04-12-2006 06:12 PM

how did you get it into 1st doing 55?

dsg_gt2004 04-12-2006 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by spike_africa
how did you get it into 1st doing 55?

must have used two hands and SLAMMED that thing in

spike_africa 04-12-2006 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by dsg_gt2004
must have used two hands and SLAMMED that thing in

seriusly mine doesnt wanna go in at 15mph.

jjtgiants 04-12-2006 06:56 PM

Wow that's pretty hard to do.....please save a little money and get rid of that piece of crap stock shifter.....you'll never miss third and you will for sure never do that again. It was the first mod I did and it makes the car much more fun to drive.

MattJ 04-12-2006 06:58 PM

Mine doesnt want to go in 1st at like 20. I dont know how you go in first at highway speeds. I know I can goto second from like 40.

It shouldnt be a problem though...

customstang 04-12-2006 07:08 PM

I dont know but it went in there. Do you guys think I caused any damage?

Lances03SVT 04-12-2006 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by customstang
What do you mean you locked the motor up?

Well it just froze up.Left a black mark about 50 foot.The guy thought I had tried to do a burnout.I just told him I did'nt know what happened and it did'nt have enough power to do a burnout.The engine needed a rebuild bad!!

dsg_gt2004 04-12-2006 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by spike_africa
seriusly mine doesnt wanna go in at 15mph.

i think it says in the manual not to shift it into first if you're going over 15mph otherwise you risk damage to the tranny....

i think that if you dont notice anything now, you're ok and just need to be careful in the future

RCTrucker7 04-13-2006 04:56 AM

I did something similar to this a long time ago. Back in 1990-1993 I had a Cavalier Z-24. I traded it in for a Camaro. At about 2-3 weeks of owning the Camaro, I was coming up on a light that was green. It then changed to yellow. So I immediatley decided to shift into third gear and gun it to beat the red. So I grabbed the shifter, threw it straight up (as that's where 3rd was on my Z-24). Problem was, I wasn't driving my Z-24 anymore. Which meant I also wasn't driving a manual trans. anymore either. So, driving at anout 45-50mph, I ended up slamming my automatic from D to R. It was at the dealership for repairs for about a week and a half.

dannyb785 04-13-2006 12:09 PM

I've got a question...how long you been driving stick? ANd how old are you?

I drove an old 85 porsche 911. fast, fun car, but the shifter flipped around whereever it wanted to go. You very well could accidently shift it to 1st if you didnt know exactly what you were doing. With mustang shifter, the shifter naturally stays between 3rd and 4th gear so going to 3rd is just from neutral and straight up. You had to TRY to go to 1st cuz seriously, you're an idiot. As everyone has said, it's hard enough to jam it in 1st when going over 15 mph, but you going 55 and thrusting it into 1st has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of. Learn to drive stick

Grimmz 04-13-2006 12:20 PM

LoL how the hell can you do that, Mine locks me outa first if the car is going a certain speed, inorder to put it back in first i gotta be goin below 10 i think, and even then... atleast u put the clutch back in...that probably saved it...

Shambles 04-13-2006 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by customstang
I was driving down the highway today and was going to pass a car, so I tried downshifting into 3rd, it went in hard for some reason and I was like 'what the hell' then I started to let the clutch out and it got to about 4,000rpm's and i thought it was almost fully disengaged so I let it out all the way... sure enough I had shifted into 1st :bash: :censored: :wallbash:

RPM's jumped to 7200-7500 somewhere in there (btw redline is 6800) and I quickly pushed the clutch back in and proceeded to shift into third. I'd say it was doing about 55 when I started going into gear and 45 when the clutch was all the way out. I'm just wondering if my idiotic mistake is gonna shorten the life of the drivetrain (engine/tranny?)

I wanted to cry I felt so bad because I try and take such good care of it and now I feel like it's got 100,000 more miles on it.

Just wanted to rant and find out if you guys think I would've done any harm?


Um....something isnt adding up here.

Redline is at 6800, fuel cutoff is at 7100, and if you slammed it into first at that speed (which is VERY hard to do, even with a T-3650 or my T-45), your doing 8,637.9 RPM, which would basically blow both your block and tranny apart, and blow a few rods and pistons out of your block.

Even if your car was in at 7200-7500 before you slammed the clutch back in, your engine would have been gone and the fuel cutoff would have occured, at which point you would have to stop the car and get a tow, as well as a new block/tranny.

:icon_bs:

mcmmotorsports 04-13-2006 02:48 PM

BTW, pick up one of those rubber shifter gaskets and you will have hardly ANY noise with an aftermarket shifter. I have had my Hurst shifter for almost two years and LOVE IT!

dannyb785 04-13-2006 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by MTShambles
Um....something isnt adding up here.

Redline is at 6800, fuel cutoff is at 7100, and if you slammed it into first at that speed (which is VERY hard to do, even with a T-3650 or my T-45), your doing 8,637.9 RPM, which would basically blow both your block and tranny apart, and blow a few rods and pistons out of your block.

Even if your car was in at 7200-7500 before you slammed the clutch back in, your engine would have been gone and the fuel cutoff would have occured, at which point you would have to stop the car and get a tow, as well as a new block/tranny.

:icon_bs:


If the story is true, then he probably pushed the clutch in before the rpms went that high.

jeredan2003 04-13-2006 03:13 PM

What he did is possible. I can shift into 1st pretty easily while on the interstate. You just better not let the clutch out lol. Trust me you didnt do any damage to the engine. You factory rev limiter is there for things just like this. Yor valves wont start floating until about 1000rpm higher than the stock rev limiter. Its OK dont sweat it. Just try not to let it happen again.

jeredan2003 04-13-2006 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by MTShambles
Um....something isnt adding up here.

Redline is at 6800, fuel cutoff is at 7100, and if you slammed it into first at that speed (which is VERY hard to do, even with a T-3650 or my T-45), your doing 8,637.9 RPM, which would basically blow both your block and tranny apart, and blow a few rods and pistons out of your block.

Even if your car was in at 7200-7500 before you slammed the clutch back in, your engine would have been gone and the fuel cutoff would have occured, at which point you would have to stop the car and get a tow, as well as a new block/tranny.

:icon_bs:

Thats odd considering most normal people wouldnt just make up a story like that. Unless your watching a video of the kid driving I dont understand why you doubt that he put in in first...... It couldnt have been third gear because that wouldnt have happened at 55mph. If he had shifted to 2nd then it would have been obvious to him since that gear is on the other side of the shifter. 7200-7500 wont blow the engine itll just float the valves. Thats not enough RPM to spin the bearings on a Mach 1.........

4.6 Love 04-13-2006 03:47 PM

Something similar happen to me, a while back. I was @ about 5900 rpms on 3rd gear. I tried to powershift into 4th but i accidently shifted into 2nd gear. The rpms flew to about 7xxx and my wheels locked up. I was sure, my tranny and my motor was ****ed, but to my amazement, my car was ok. So I, think your story is real and your car should be ok..:)

GREG@94GT 04-13-2006 04:32 PM

wow...

I cant say I ever f.ucked up so bad...

my advice is dont do it again and ya'll be fine...

customstang 04-13-2006 05:01 PM

Haha why would I come on here and make up a story so people can call me a liar and/or horrible driver? I've been driving manuals since time began, my brother had a manual racing quad, I drive tractors all the time, I have drove dirtbikes, I've drove two manual F-250's almost daily before I got my first V6 stang (manual) and now I'm on my second one.

I know how to drive, dannyb, when you get in an accident (and it will happen sometime) I'll call you a horrible driver too.

Things happen. And no it's not that hard to get into first gear, especially with that weak shifter that wobbles back and forth practically.

And I was down to 40-45ish when the clutch was all the way out, only for a split second. I think I know what happened. And no I'm not lieing, that would be pointless.

customstang 04-13-2006 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by MTShambles
Um....something isnt adding up here.

Redline is at 6800, fuel cutoff is at 7100, and if you slammed it into first at that speed (which is VERY hard to do, even with a T-3650 or my T-45), your doing 8,637.9 RPM, which would basically blow both your block and tranny apart, and blow a few rods and pistons out of your block.

Even if your car was in at 7200-7500 before you slammed the clutch back in, your engine would have been gone and the fuel cutoff would have occured, at which point you would have to stop the car and get a tow, as well as a new block/tranny.

:icon_bs:

43mph is redline in first gear... 45ish wouldn't put me at 8600


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