The street legal drag races are less than 2 weeks away and I can't wait any longer. I have 3 races set up for the day. Me: 2002 Mustang GT 4r70W

1. 2000 Mustang GT Convertible: Auto, K&N FIPK, & Flowmaster Catback.

2. 1994 Formula Firebird: 5.7 LT1 w/ some type of Corvette Tranny(auto), Magnaflow Exhaust

3. 1994 Acura Integra Type R: Totally gutted, just a seat, dash, and steering wheel. Its got alot of basic mods under the hood like CAI, all new ignition, full exhaust, cams and gears.
I raced the Integra a while ago but thats when he had a GSR engine so I'm a little worried. I beat him easily but I was totally stock then.

Well I just finished up gutting my car: passenger seat, back seats, everything in the trunk, and the heavy *** driver seat. I installed one of my racing seats which is WAY lighter.
I have Flowmaster catback, stock intake with K&N filter and NO air silencer(removed headlight) and recently a 75mm BBK TB/Plenum along with my 4.10 gears. I am getting all my fluids changed to synthetic and might be running about 95-97 octane(or is that too high?) This is what I have now, so what do you guys think? What do you think I will be running and do you think I will beat these guys?
Sorry it was so long but I just got excited again!! Pre-Race Day gitters!!

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changing your octane will not make you go faster. dont waste your money on doing that.

 

put your interior back in its not gonna help you. Also you will look silly if you get beat by the integra and you have the car gutted. Dont worry about all the jazz from higher octane and takin the seat out and all that. It doesnt help the least bit. From a dig race I would think that it would hurt you more than help you. Since pretty much all Street legal drags are from a dig I would leave your interior in the car. The mustang is already set up from ford with certain spring rates and suspension. Your just lightening up the rearend even more. The back will sit about a half inch higher from the weight reduction and that means less contact patch. From a roll race is where you might see performance. But only the very least bit of performance at that. You may have removed a good 100 pounds and that equates to maybe 10hp(sotp feel). The difference would be just like a car that traps 101 and one that traps 102. Its a negligible difference and it would be more of a drivers race to me.

Just run the plain 93 octane pump gas. Really all you need is 87 octane and itll run the same but some people just prefer to put 93 in because it makes them feel safe.

You should beat the mustang vert. pretty easily.

The LT1 might give you trouble but I wouldnt worry too much.

I would be worried about the integra if it has a bigger engine. Gutted hondas move like go carts and they have some crazy acceleration down low in the powerband. From a dig I would be worried. From a roll you should beat him pretty easily. They have no topend whatsoever unless it has a turbo on it.

 

Your probably gonna lose to that ITR integra! i'll be honest if the boy can drive and has it tuned well, N/A it will get down! I've already seen one eat up a mustang with the same mods as your minus the 4:10's. you'de better be on a BFG and have a heck of a hole shot.

 

How do you thinking taking weight out isnt going to help you go faster that doesnt make any sense.

 

only 100 pounds makes hardly no difference. when you take out the entire interior like the dash all seats and stereo.....pretty much a bare inside shaving 200 pounds or more then you might see some gains but no 100 pounds wont help all that much on a mustang that already weighs 3500 pounds anyways. Its just like having your friend in teh car while your racing. cept opposite. A normal guy will weigh 170 thats not going to slow the car down hardly at all. So if you remove just 100........see what im saying??? I have tried the weight reduction and I converted it all back to stock. better traction to me.

 

I agree...you arent gonna take out much weight from a mustang and be able to put it back in. We strip our drag cars at the shop and it's nothing but a bare shell, then we take a plasma cutter to the inside and cut even more...then put the panels back in so it looks like a stock car....just cut to peices underneath, some of our honda's weight starting at 2600lbs and finish at 1800lbs some a little less and those cars fly...but alot of weight is taken out.

 

with your mods and if you are a good driver with good traction, I dont see why you would have any trouble beating any of the cars listed.

 

Matt, he will have trouble with the ITR, even if he's on top of his game..that car will move out with a driver on top of his game!

 

I'm not gonna argue this one.

 

Well I'm gonna go wiegh everything and let you know EXACTLY how much weight I dropped. I have already tried it out and not only does it pickup quicker, I still get good traction. But we will all see what happens, my friend is going to record all of the races so I will post them as soon as I get them!!

 

just throw a lil wet kit on there for insurance! I'm telling watch out for that lil import...he's got you by 1000lbs and your probably about 20-30hp more than him.....do the math it's gonna be really close.

 

Yeah I was looking at the Venom Recluse Setup, I even posted about it asking some questions but no one responeded yet...

But here are some of the results: The front driver seat, front passenger seat and the two pieces of the rear seat weigh in @ 155lbs.
Plus you add in the jack, spare tire and the trunk carpet and padding, etc...you easily have a 200lb weight reduction!!


Not to mention...I don't weigh to much so its even better.

 

The Type R weighs only 1800-2000lbs, atleast thats what the guy told me. So yeah that Recluse system is looking mighty fine right about now.

I can't lose to the Acura, he started putting "kill stickers" on his car. One for every Mustang he's beat!! So there is no way I will let this guy win again!!

 

thats not much at all, 1000lbs will make a huge difference, but good to know how much it all does weigh. i'de just throw a kit on it and leave your interior alone.

 

On mine with a leather interior the total weight dropped from removing the rear seat and passenger seat is about 80 lbs. My front driver seat weighs 55 with the motor for the power seat.
You take out 100 lbs total you will run one tenth faster in the quarter.
I have removed and weighed them all. I don't think the integra has any ***** at all. You should be able to run 13.70's - 13.90's depending on the air, I don't see any of those cars going any better than mid 14's.
Good luck!

 

Those gutted hondas WILL RUN. Trust me. I have raced a few and one was fast as hell! I came across a turbo honda that stuck with me pretty good on the spray........

1800 pounds + 250hp = one quick ****!

The integra will definately get the jump on his mustang as long as the guy has a good engine on it. Its easy to launch a car that doesnt weigh anything. Those gutted imports will surprise you. Without a power adder it can only be so fast but I can still see it beating a GT with the right driver.

Dont buy that recluse system.......the bottle only lasts like 1 or 2 1/4 mile runs. Youll mess around and run out of spray by the time you race that integra...........

 

Ha, at least someone else see's what i'm saying out honda/acura's and bein stripped out! One of the Tech's at our shop has a flat black civic HB w/ blacked out windows you wouldnt think much of when you see it from the side or behind. Honestly it looks like a POS...look in the front, half the bumper is cut out for a huge intercooler! some people arent scared of it and still think it's slow untill they see the turbo and see it spinning on slicks almost to the 1/8 mile mark and still making 9.60 passes!

Never under estimate a gutted or full interior import!

 

It would have to make some 6 or 700hp to run that in the 1/4 mile.... Damn!

See the thing about those imports is that you cannot ever tell which one are fast and which ones arent. Some will dissapoint you, but then some will surprise you!

 

your guess on the HP is in right area, i'm helping him rebuild the engine completely since he's going with a bigger turbo this season, and were hoping to see 800+ on a little over 32psi...thats high boost. We've got an N/A civic HB, our tech's little brothers car runing 12.01@ 114mph and all it has is a K20a2 swap with a header/K-pro tuning by us/custom intake and it's on a BFG drag radial with full interior and a roll cage.

 

WTF!! Why are you guys praising honda's so much?? Do you guys know that there are MUSTANGS out there thats can take any honda on this planet!! I know that Honda's have potential and I understand that you guys just want me to watch out but damn...this isn't a honda forum. I know I'm faster with my interior gone, I know he's atleast 1,000 lbs lighter still, and I know its gonna be a good race. BUT I have more faith in my Stang, I would pick a Mustang over an import anyday, even if I knew he would lose. Just because I can't stand ricers. So lets not argue about this anymore: I predict I will beat this Honda...and I will gladly take bets. I may be crazy but thats how i feel. (I have Pony blood running through my body)

 

Dude straight out, I dont like honda's much either, but you gotta give them they're credit, they do have potential, and remember they only got 4 little cylinders the size of a coke can. No one is argueing about them, just stating facts. I've seen plenty of mustangs on a slick lose to a honda on a street tire. You cant put them down but so much, and yea i know it's a mustang forum but other topics to come up....But at least you do have faith in your stang seeing i'm the same way i got faith in mine giving an *** kickin to them but then theres some i just wont even mess with. Just the fact that i dont wanna see something with 4 less cylinders in front of me.

 

The original post say's basic bolt on's not a huge *** turbo putting down 700 hp. As to Honda's they make great reliable ugly ghey looking cars. I don't care if one runs 5's at 300 mph, they still suck! A Turd is a Turd no matter how much you dress it up.

 

so a gutted stang is a bad idea and wont make yuou faster, but a gutted honda makes it fast? your are my new hero on the forums.

 

A John Deere lawn tractor gutted down to 350 lbs with 250 rwhp is one bad ****. There is a ugly VW notch back at our track that has nothing but a kirky racing seat and I mean nothing, pure bare sheet metal, no dash no nothing.
It has a professionally built motor that sounds great. It runs 12.00 and the announcer just raves about it. I think it's a slow ugly p.o.s. Gut a GT and build a motor and it can run into the 10's and it still looks good. What is the point of a gutted out ugly grocery getter? It's like putting a nice set of silicon ***** on a ugly woman, she's still a skank.

 

He said it's in the 1/8 mile, not 1/4 mile

 

I said to the 1/8 mile mark....meaning it's going full 1/4 mile, 6.90 passes tho in the 1/8.

 

Wow...Jerdan, dont you think its a good idea to get ANY of that weight advantage the honda will have back? And not to mention, who the hell cares if he DOES get beat and DOES have his interior stripped...its just ignorant to tell him to make his car .155 slower just so he doesnt look bad if he gets beat. Honestly, I dont think you are going to have a problem with the honda at all. If you get off the line well, you should be fine. Torque is your strong point, as youll have about 170 lbft more than the honda...so USE it and dont burn the tires off.