I see this on sale here at my favorite shop. Does anyone have any experience with this SCT chip? Could someone share with me the pros/cons of this electronic modification vs. others on the market? Thanks!

 

Yeah, I'm also curious about this chip too. How much power can you expect to gain? Is it going to be worth it for the price you pay? thanks

 

You can expect 8-15 rwhp depending on your actual setup and octane used.

Maybe more if the tune is perfect (dyno tuned), use 94 octane and you have lot of mods like headers, mid-pipe, cat-back, intake, throttle, plenum, pullies, cams...

But it looks like to have great results for a general mail tune.

 

I have this chip and I know of at least one more guy here who has one.

What you get with SCT is support and experience. I think it is the best chip on the market. A tune is a tune...for the most part any chip tuned correctly will give you the same hp results. You should expect to see 8 - 20 hp depending on other mods and and the tune that you are starting with. But, you should see some improvements in drivability.

The key thing with this chip is the ability to store upto four custom tunes. For someone going nitrous, this is a great chip to use. Or, if you want different tunes for your na application....say one for 87 octane and one for 94 octane.

I have three tunes on mine.

 

Can MT keep that special price for about 2-3 months. I have to save up the money!!

 

Sunday, Sunday, SUNDAY! EVERYTHING MUST GO...

 

Hey Blake, is yours a mail order or is a dyno tuned chip. Id like one, but Im afraid my car wont get the programs thats best for it with the mail order chip. Closest SCT tuner is 4 hours away.

 

Mail order! Your car should be a breeze for a mail order tune. I would not worry about it. In fact, with your mods, I don't think I would waste the money on a dyno tune.

 

Id reserve one of those banks for "dealership/unwatched driver"
I work at a dealership, and I know how they treat sports cars...

 

Yea a Valet tune is almost necessary for a modified car like ours. People will just rape it. Scenes from Ferris Buellers Day Off come to mind...

 

ok, Because I have no experience with "Performance Chips", is it really easy to use?
Say I got one from MT and told them everything they needed to know about the car....they would just send the chip to me already programmed? Where does it plug into ? WHere? arg. I n eed some detail on how to use this thang yo!

 

As far as installation goes, a chip is a chip. They are all installed and "used" the same way.

SCT sends pretty decent instructions, but installation is a bit tricky. I would say that a chip install is about the same difficulty as say a Tri-Ax. Neither hard or easy.

The chip installs into a slot on the cars computer. I put a thread in the "How To" section of the forum for you.

Once it is installed, you simply drive the car. The chip comes with a control **** that you can mount anywhere you want. "0" position is generally where the performance tune will be and "4" position is your stock tune. If you have other tunes on the car, they will be in 1,2, and 3 positions.

I recomend that you get two tunes for the car. One for 93 octane (or whatever is the high octane that you can readily get) and one for 87 octane.

Check out the "How To" section for more info.

 

Im going to just order the 4 SCT bank chip, Got a question on ordering. Im assuming it comes with one tune free and you can switch between it and stock.

Extra tunes on the drop down say

2 tunes = $25
3 tunes = $50

If i pay for 2 tunes does that mean i get one that comes with it already and i may choose 2 more, or does it mean i only get 3 custom tunes plus the one that comes with it for free.

I was figuring this

1 tune for 87 octane high performance
1 tune for 94 octane high performance
1 tune for 100 HP 94 octane shot of zex nitrous
1 tune for best gas mileage if there is such a tune?? anyone know or should i just skip it.

Anyone have a better suggestion on what tunes to order??

Mods are on a 97 mustang
4.10 gears going in with the SCT chip
PI heads and intake
Mac Cold air induction that came with the car
2 1/2 inch Off road pipe and Magnaflow Catback
March Underdrive pullies.
Mac Upper and lower Rear control arms, non adjustable.
Zex Dry nitrous system 100hp jet

I have a set of mil eliminators that i havnt put on the car yet that i'll probably sell since the SCT will take care of that. And upon removing that factory rev limiter, Should i remove it or leave it. 6200rpms i see is the limit and any reason to get rid of the rev limiter??

 

The chip comes with one tune. If you pay $25, you get a total of two tunes (the stock one does not count). To use your stock tune, you simply place the switch in position 4 which is a bypass mode for the chip and the car runs off whatever is on the computer.

If you want three tunes including one for nitrous, this is what you should do:

1st Tune - High performance tune with timing advanced and fuel curves for max hp. Be sure to tell the tuner what octane fuel you want it tuned for. In my case, mine is set for 93.

2nd Tune - Regular 87 octane tune. This tune will be corrected for gears etc... and your a/f might be leaned a tad for a little hp increase over stock. I run this setting when the gas prices get really high, or you just don't feel like running 93 or the wife or g/f puts in 87 by accident. Don't laugh...happens all the time. At least this way, you can change the setting to avoid blowing the motor. Or, just for some reason, you start having a pinging problen with the first tune, you have this as a safety valve.

3 - Nitrous tune. The changes the tuner makes here will depend on the nitrous system you are running. With my Venom, I had the tuner leave my fuel curves stock, and pull one degree of timing out of it from the stock setting. I left my fuel curves alone, because the venom system is self-tuning anyway. For your ZEX system, I would have the tuner richen up the fuel curves a bit AND take out timing. Probably one degree for a 100 shot. Don't forget to use one-step colder COPPER plugs. If you do this, you should be fine w/o having a dyno tune. But I would NOT go any higher on the shot w/o a dyno tune to be safe. The right plugs will really give you a good margin of safety.

Disclaimer: I am NOT a tuner. While I am knowlegable, listen to your tuner. He will know best (or at least he should). You may hear different opinions then what I just stated. But, this is the same setup I have on my car. I believe this is the right way to go.

 

I just saw your comment on the rev limiter. Your tuner may want to bump it up a tad, but not much. Most do this with a standard performance tune, but I think it is fine to leave it alone, it is there for a reason. Just don't get carried away.

It is worth a discussion, however, to delete it with your nitrous tune especially if you don't have a window switch. If you have a window switch, I would probably just raise it with the nitrous tune or even leave stock. Hard to say. You want to avoid hitting the rev limiter when spraying...that is the goal.

If you have no experience with 4.10's and nitrous you are in for a real treat. You have no idea how quickly 6500 rpms can come. Honestly, both do not mix well in 1st gear. BUT, it is a real hoot in 2nd and 3rd.

My car pulls more g's in second now than it did when stock in 1st.

 

Thanks for the fast response!!! It was just a bit confusing on when i was ordering if 2 tunes ordereing came with one tune free, Nice wishing though.

I've got a guy doing my gears for $200 This week, i see there is a wait time on shipping, with getting the chip tuned before they ship. has anyone ordered the chip from here, and what was the actual delay. I was hoping to get the chip in the same time as the gears for all at once Gratification!!!

Im ordereing the gears and chip now. My installer was surprised as hell when i said. $132 for the 4.10 motive gears. He orders everything from summit for customers and said more power if i can get them cheaper than he orders.

 

Im ordering now. Where the computer code located at that i need, On the drivers side door, or do i have to look actually on the computer?? And hoe many numbers is it exactly or what should i look for.

what i see on my door panel are F0283 R0159 spr JH55, any of these number look right??




The last nitrous i ran was on a formula 350 firebird, 8 port fogger system 250hp max, but i never used that jet, I stayed @ 150hp mostly to save my auto trans, Dam if it wasnt just like adding another moter!!! Mine was on a wide open throttle switch, but i plumbed in a button and never used it in first, and usually i kicked it in at about 3k rpms in 2nd.

Thanks again for the fast reply's, u must have a sidekick 2 cell phone answering on the same as me. Nothing like being always in touch or being able to hit your favorite forums whereever you are!!!

 

Sounds like the JH55 number to me. You can give that to the tuner...he will know. Or, to be sure, pull the kick plate off. The code will be printed right on the computer box.

 

Hey MTs#1 was curious about your flip chip? Ive been debating on a tune for awhile even though I know its necessary. Ive been very hesitant on who too go with SCT's flip chip, Xcalibrator, Diablo etc; Have you Dynoed your car to see what its puttin out and what your A/F ratio is? cause like you I depend on that VCN 1000 comp. to compensate for fuel, you said you left your fuel curves stock cause the Venom is self adjusting and I was wondering? cause when I dynoed mine it was slightly lean, so Iam curious to how your car is running and if you got any gains from the flip chip tune? I here awesome things about SCT in general but I have on mine one of there first chips "the blue SUPERCHIP" and I was not impressed :sad7:

 

Sam, I have NO dyno data YET. (he he). If I were you, I would get the SCT 4 Position Chip so you can switch back and forth between n/a and nitrous tunes.

Regarding your a/f from your dyno results. I honestly think that if you were really that lean, you would be toast a long time ago. I question the dyno results.

HOWEVER, if you run the calculations and talk to the experts, you and I are really at the peak of what our stock fuel system can deliver. In fact, I am in the process of buying larger fuel injectors, a bigger pump, and a calibrated MAF. Not soo much for my current setup, but for when I go to heads and cams. The head and cam swap with the juice will certainly tap my fuel out.

The thing is, despite what some of the tuners say, there are thousands of nitrous users using these type of package nitrous systems on their stock fuel system and they are not running out of steam with their fuel. But, when you add a bunch of bolt-ons, I begin to wonder. I am thinking about stepping back to my 75 shot until I can get a hold of a wide-band, but then again, why should I?

Either way, I have time to think as the car is still in storage.

 

I went with the sct 4 position switch. MT called me the next day to verify my info and said they would have it out in 2 days. Fast service. They answered all my questions and more through email and on the phone. I've got a zex kit with 125hp jets installed it's running fine with no SCT yet.

I ordered a better fuel pump last night just to be sure, for what little a fuel pump costs, plus a couple hours, it's not worth taking a chance. Im keeping an eye on my plugs and im running rich, with or without nitrous.

ive been using the Gtech computer and have been seeing on par gains with my upgrades.

Pullies showed 8hp
Off road pipes gave me 11hp
Nitrous showed up as 102 hp
Leaving the girlfriend home and empty passenger seat gives me 5hp!!!!!

 

I agree with you to an extentMT's#1 Dynos aint perfect but there close. Iam definetly changing my fuel pump out and was considering going with 24-32lb inj. thats also why Ive been hesitent to get that tune dont want to do this twice! but I really believe running a little rich on a nitrous car cant hurt

 

Sam, I just ordered 24# injectors and a larger fuel pump. I am going with a Bosch fuel pump that Steeda sells. It is a direct replacement for the car, but flows about 40% more than stock. I spoke with Steeda and it is what they recomended. They actually talked me out of the Ford SVT Focus pump for some good reasons.

 

Just put my 4 position chip in. Went like a breeze. The preveious owner already had a Superchips Blue Chip in there. No cleanup needed on the pins.I keep finding Mods. Ive had the car 5 weeks. I bought a steeda tri ax and went to put it in and there was already one installed.

I found PI heads and intake after searching when i was pulling away from a friends 2001 pretty good from a roll. I thought the car was stock, cept for a Cheap CAI, and Magnaflow Catbacks.

Anyone know anything about the BLUE Superchips, im guessing they arent custom burned? I looked on the site, but just 2 models for 96 to 98 mustangs depending if you have a Stick or Manual. I figure i could sell it if so and get a couple bucks for Gas Im guessing im not going to see any gains since there was already a chip in there. I actually didnt think there was since the rev limiter was still on @ 6200rpms.

Ive not tested my New SCT out yet. I fired it up in the garage and switched between tunes and it didnt die, I have a 87 octane,93 octane and 93 octane 125hp nitrous retard tune. Its freezing outside. I dont feel like any testing tonight

 

The blue chips can be custom burned! they are just the older type and are not used much anymore by Superchips I have one with stageII tune. I mainly kept in there to calibrate my speedo, I didnt feel any gains with it but it did keep my Check Eng. Light from coming on which was a problem for a while?

 

BTW, my car will stall and die whenever I switch either in or out of my nitrous tune. It dies about 90% of the time, and just coughs and gags the rest of the time and then runs fine. For my setup, I simply need to restart my car when swithing between n/a and nitrous. The problem seems to be with my particular setup. I have my chip programmed such that my nitrous tune shuts-off my traction control (hey, I am smart). So, in order to reset the traction control system properly, the ignition has to quit so it can properly reset. I am convinced that if I did not have it setup to shut off my traction control, I would not have this problem. It is really a minor thing, and I would prefer to have the traction control off.

 

Must be why my check engine light has never came on after i put on the off road exhaust. I put the chip on ebay and probably in the classies here tonight. Ive just been researching what it fits and what years.

Im glad i bought the SCT, Id of never known this chip was there till i probably blew the motor on nitrous due to too much Ignition timing.

I tested out the Chip Today, I can feel a difference between stock and the 93 octane tune.

 

Can you expand on this? Did you blow a motor while using nitrous because you had a chip installed with the timing advanced? Not sure what you mean exactly and I am curious. This might be a good lesson for nitrous noobs.

 

No i didnt blow anything. Ive only used the nitrous with 55hp jets for testing. I bought this kit for $300 brand new from someone that was going to put it on a Turbo'd stang to help with lag, thats why i have 55hp jets also. He wrecked the car and needed cash.

But im sure if i used the 125hp jets i wouldve had problems. Plus my added compression from finding also the previous owner did the PI Head and intake swap which in no way im complaining!!!

I didnt know my car had a chip in it. So im sure i wouldve lost a head gasket or maybe worse if i wouldve run the largest nitrous jets with the timing advance i didnt even know was there with the blue Superchip installed. Ive been having to run Premium fuel since i bought it or i get Ping on the highway.

If it wasnt for the nitrous system, i wouldnt of even bought the SCT 4 position chip. I just wanted a way to retard easily. And luckely I found the Blue superchip installed before i did Blow something.

My last nitrous'd car was a Formula 350, i had a MSD 6al box, with a Timing retard box that i tied into my Nitrous micro Throttle switch that would back off the timing 8 degrees from 14 down to 8 when the nitrous fired.

I wish i could make this retard automatic like i had on the formula on my stang now. Any Ideas??

 

I still dont understand why SUPERCHIPS is goin away from the Bluechip cause I know they advertise the red chip for the trucks and diesels still? + the Bluechip IS programable but the cost was alittle steep. I guess with all the other tuning devices its probabaly becoming absolete?? I believe Ken @ Moduler Depot told me once that they would give me a $50.00 credit for the Blue Chip if I decided to buy the Xcalibrator or any of there other tuning chips from SCT. I paid $350.00 for the Damn thing :crybaby2: I guess its better than nothin.