I have a 2002 V6 manual that currently runs a 14.5 on the trackI just got through adding a 8.8 with 3.73 gears and a turbo with that is pushing 10 PSI of boost. I have yet to get a good tune because I am in the military and stationed in Ramstein Germany and there is really no place to get it done at for my stang. But I am just curious what you guys think that my new times would be with these additions.

By the way I have a few years of drag racing experience so I can drive the car if you think that might be a problem.

 

upgrade something man those times are horrible for a splitport. I would of guessed you would of broke 13's with a turbo,posi,3.73's the 10lbs of boost should be kickin some ***. Is the setup intercooled? Did you add any bigger injectors? I know this might not add a whole lot but get a bigger maf.

 

I have 32 lbh injectors and yes it is intercooled and I do have a bigger MAF on the way alsoI am just curious if anyone has any ideas on what this should do. I have yet to be able to even drive it do to no tune. But I am hoping to get to the 12's soon. After this is tuned I plan on getting new Heads Cam and Intake.

 

have you not got a tune for your new injectors? The thing has to be flooding badly and running rough. I'd think after a tune you should get mid to low 13's even if its just a sct or diablo chip. Something doesnt seem right. also try a new fuel pump.

 

I was running 14.5's before the turbo and other parts. I have not driven the stang since the turbo and all the other parts have been added. Oh yeah and I have a 255lph Walboro pump on it for the turbo.

 

wait wut mods did u have when u ran a 14.5

 

I had a CAI with a Predator tune, and Eibach lowering springs

 

also u can def break into the 12's

also your my idol having a v6 like me and you turboed it thats just ****ing awesome

 

You can turbo yours too it just takes time and patience to save the money

 

For me my supercharger will be more then enough but turbos are the best for the sixer stangs. I thought you ran that time with the turbo on there i was gonna say your car has issues.

 

You did not run mid 14's with a CAI. Tune at that point was a waste maybe 5~10 rwhp and the springs will only hurt you drag racing. So what's the set-up now? What fuel pump, injectors, where did you get the turbo kit? What kind of turbo is it? Can I see a time slip from your 14.5 run? And you will deffinitly need a tune and a few other stuff but I'll wait to see a complete mods list.

 

i ran a 15.2 on stock tires for my v6 and i thought that was amazing if he ran a 14.5 then he must be a god

 

I was waiting for you to jump in cuban. I thought there was no way he ran a 14.5, but who am i to talk i dont race or anything. Gt's be scared

 

i could see it with some stick *** tires and some good driving. But i dont know what he was riding on.

 

I must admit MM&FF ran a stock 99+ 3.8 to a 14.9999...LOL on et streets. But I haven't seen that number in real life yet. I could understand a very low 15 or very high 14 but a mid 14 is kinda pushing it.

95bstallion: I don't mean to be a jerk or anything I just know what can/chould/has been run on our cars and a 14.5 is amazing for basicly a stock car. If he did it then damn he has a huge factory freak. I would love to see a timeslip however. Not to mention I'm very curious of where he got his turbo set-up that will tell me a lot about him right there.


Anyways to the original question, anywhere from a mid 13 to a low 12 is possible depends on what the total set-up is.

 

yeah i saw that MM&FF thing also. But a local guy here in orlando got his 00v6 to run 15.1 on drag radials with just catback,cai,pulley so i think with sticky tires and a high launch it could be done.

 

No man i was bein serious you know your ****. Dont take it badly if i ever need help i will hit you up. You know your v6 stuff and thats all there is too it.

 

Thanks, I just know a bit since I have been reading up and asking tons of questions about our 3.8 since I got mine in 8th grade back in '99. Well my dad bought it but we both knew it would be mine eventually lol And yea no worries hit me up whenever I'm alwasy ready to help

 

The turbo I got from Turbonetics why do you ask

 

Well see I'm asking because there is only one company right now making full turbo kits for us 3.8 guys, tmaturbo.com

Andy, the guy that runs it knows everything that is needed and should be done to turbo a 3.8. He's a great guy with a lot of knowledge. So where are you getting your piping? Are you fabbing it up yourself or is a shop banding it for you? I'm just really curious as what your set-up will be that's all.

 

I am having it fabbed up. Considering that I am in Germany it gets a little expensive for me to have everything shipped over here. But I will be coming back to the states in February so it should get easier. That is why I have to pick and choose where I get my parts from. The only reason I went with Turbonetics is because they offered me a military discount on the parts and shipping. So I could not pass that up.

 

Ok so what exactly is your set-up looking like? I mean what about fuel upgrades? Tune? Even if I could give you a good estimate on what your times will be it's just bench racing and means absolutly nothing.

 

I have a 255 walboro and 32lb injectors on it. I don't have a tune at the moment so the car is not moving because I don't wanna hrut the engine. I can not get a tune over here because there are no Germans that I know of that tune Mustangs.I know that the bench racing will mean nothing but I just wanted to know what other people opinions were. I personally think that I should be in the high 12's soon enough.

 

Ok I'm a bit confused. You have the pump and the injecters in it now? And you don't have a tune??? That thing must run like **** LOL.

Here's a few problems you will have to overcome.
1. The 255 walboro pump will not work well with our fuel systems. 99+ cars have a returnless style fuel system and that pump will eventually burn itself out. Get a 310lbh fuel pump from a focus. Much much better pump and it is designed for a returnless style car.
2. 32#'s might be just enough but probably not. You should go ahead and get some 42's or 39's off of an '03-'04 cobra. The 39's are actually flowed to 42 but they call them 39's for some reason.
3. Your MAF will peg. You will need a new one like a 80mm lightning unit, there are other options but too many to list, or an maf extender.
4. You need a tune period! If you have to get a wideband and hook it up to a data logger or something and get some a/f readings. Then send them to a tuner and have him try to give you some kind of tune. Of course a dyno tune is best. Honestly I don't see how there isn't a tuner in Germany. I mean you are stationed in the country that produces AMG benz's, RUF Porches, and I know for a fact there are some supped up BMW's and stuff riding around the autobahn.


On the plus side after everything gets figured out you'll have a pretty nice performing sixer. I don't like to estimate et's sorry. But you're idea of 12's CAN be made reality. Notice "can" is capatilized though we shall see if you go through with it.

 

Well I will have to look into getting a new fuel pump then. I do have a new MAF on its way. So that is not a problem. And yes there are some pretty mean Beamers here but everyone I talk to says that they don't do American cars. Since I don't have a tune for the car it is just parked. But this is the last mod that is going on my 6er because I am getting an 03 Cobra and want to save my money for that car.

 

Atleast you could get a minimum tune like a chip or flash tune you would think till you can get a better one.

 

He wouldnt be able to do a mail order tune. Its VERY difficult, it not impossible, for a tuner for a mail order tune to get the boost settings setup and so forth. The car would run like crap if he did that.

Only thing he can really do is get a dyno tune to get everything setup. But with the injectors, larger maf, and more boost running through the thing, it is MANDATORY that he gets a tune before he really decides to drive the thing anywhere, or else he is going to damage something.

 

I wouldn't go that far... I know of a tuner that has found a very ingenious way of getting a really good mail order tune on seriously modded sixes. Of course it's not as good as a dyno tune, but it's a safe base line.


Honestly though if you're doing these kinds of mods you should get a dyno tune some how. Since you plan on getting an 03 Cobra why are you modding the six this seriously???? Have you gotten a quote on how much the pipping will cost you? Don't forget the coating!

 

I am still keeping the six also so the mods won't go to waste. And the guy is doing all the fab work for 200 bucks. He is hooking me up since he is in a car club with me and is a good friend of mine. But the main reason I wanted to turbo the six before I got the Cobra is because I want to have my sixer be pretty quick too since it will probably be my everyday driver. Not to mention my wife will be taking it to the track with me and my Cobra. By the way you think that you could hook me up with your tuner buddy and maybe he could help me out with a tune?

 

Contact Justin at vmptuning.com. He's over in Florida, let him know your situation and what your plans are and he will set you up. He is bar none the best V6 tuner in the country