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bwesky 11-27-2006 01:05 PM

dual overhead cams?
 
do our stangs have single or dual? sorry ima tard. thnx

Randy Stinchcomb 11-27-2006 01:08 PM

single, 1 over each head is a SOHC. a DOHC has 2 cams over each head. the 4.0 is a SOHC

bwesky 11-27-2006 01:12 PM

thanks, thats all i needed.

Cheddarbob 11-27-2006 03:51 PM

SOHC v6

01FR500 11-27-2006 05:49 PM

The v6 3.8L Essex engine in our stags is an overhead valve engine with no overhead cams. One cam that drives the pushrods.

bwesky 11-27-2006 06:23 PM

would it be good to replace it, or is it fine how it is, remember i want power POWER POWER!

eventer289 11-27-2006 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by bwesky (Post 227623)
would it be good to replace it, or is it fine how it is, remember i want power POWER POWER!


If you really want "power POWER POWER" you need to put a blower on it.

white95v6 11-27-2006 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by bwesky (Post 227623)
would it be good to replace it, or is it fine how it is, remember i want power POWER POWER!


swap the cam and put a turbo or a S/C on it. then have fun. or do HCI. and have fun N/A then add a blower or turbo. lol. it never ends.

GREG@SN95 11-27-2006 07:07 PM

use rocket fuel!

EDIT^^

WHOO HOO!

Cheddarbob 11-27-2006 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by bwesky (Post 227623)
would it be good to replace it, or is it fine how it is, remember i want power POWER POWER!

then you need that 7.2L :kekekegay:

bwesky 11-27-2006 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by eventer289 (Post 227627)
If you really want "power POWER POWER" you need to put a blower on it.


keep in mind im still 16 . lol i have money, but not thousands and thousads :godamnit:

GREG@SN95 11-27-2006 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by bwesky (Post 227667)
keep in mind im still 16 . lol i have money, but not thousands and thousads :godamnit:

well the only way to make your car fast is "thousands and thousands" of dollars


sorry to be the bearer of bad news

Cheddarbob 11-27-2006 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by bwesky (Post 227667)
keep in mind im still 16 . lol i have money, but not thousands and thousads :godamnit:

you want a 15 to 20 hp power gain get a tuner go to a dyno shop have them do a few pulls and then let em tune it.

SnTBakosFinest 11-27-2006 10:09 PM

Rob a bank :(

But yea..serious power..will cost some cash. ;x

bwesky 11-28-2006 09:04 AM

theres a shopp right by my ouse, ima go see if they have dyn there , or else i have to drive all the way to st. louis :flameON:

r3dn3ck 11-28-2006 10:19 AM

you're 16, so here's some friendly advice:

learn how to drive it for a few years. Then add power. I don't know too many 10th graders with the sense gawd gave a box of rice crispies (no offense but you're young... I used to be, then I aged and got more sense and money) so I don't think it's appropriate yet to be tinkering with your car. After you hit 18, then mod the thing and slap on a turbo kit. Then take it to college with you and wreck it in your college-sophomore year like everyone else, instead of in your HS sophomore year when there's more of your life to ruin on one bad choice.

bwesky 11-28-2006 01:25 PM

sry to hear that man, but im gunna have to disaagree with you on this one, i want to do shit now, so i will thanks though:topicclosed:

cuban3jumper 11-28-2006 03:24 PM

CAI
Dual Exhaust
Gears
T-lok
Nitrous
Tune
have fun I know I am...I have a lot more done but am too lazy to list it all LOL. I started modding the car in 99 when my dad bought it I was in the 8th grade at the time. So don't be too afraid to mod it but please grow upa bit faster then most of your friends will. It'll help out a lot if you aren't an ass on the road all the time.

"Then take it to college with you and wreck it in your college-sophomore year like everyone else, instead of in your HS sophomore year when there's more of your life to ruin on one bad choice."

Seriously? If anything he'll have more to lose if he does wreck it in college.

Oh and try to get a scholarship of some kind. I'm on an athletic scholarship trust me it helps with mod money and money to do whatever you want/need in general really.

bwesky 11-28-2006 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by cuban3jumper (Post 227867)
CAI
Dual Exhaust
Gears
T-lok
Nitrous
Tune
have fun I know I am...I have a lot more done but am too lazy to list it all LOL. I started modding the car in 99 when my dad bought it I was in the 8th grade at the time. So don't be too afraid to mod it but please grow upa bit faster then most of your friends will. It'll help out a lot if you aren't an ass on the road all the time.

"Then take it to college with you and wreck it in your college-sophomore year like everyone else, instead of in your HS sophomore year when there's more of your life to ruin on one bad choice."

Seriously? If anything he'll have more to lose if he does wreck it in college.

Oh and try to get a scholarship of some kind. I'm on an athletic scholarship trust me it helps with mod money and money to do whatever you want/need in general really.

you guys see that? this guy gies good advice. yeah thnx dude im going to get those things you listed:worship2:

03DSG 11-28-2006 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by bwesky (Post 227847)
sry to hear that man, but im gunna have to disaagree with you on this one, i want to do shit now, so i will thanks though:topicclosed:

typical 16 year old response, but hell i was there too. ok, if you dont like what anyone else is saying fine. just think of it like this, some of us learned the hard way and were trying to help you out. but if you want to blow your money on something you wont have in 4 years fine. think about how many miles your car has and what it can really take. how was it driven before you got it, you prolly have no idea unless you got it from a family member. was it driven nice, and well kept or driven hard as shit and it worn out. as an example, a turbo would be nice, but will the motor handle it. your 2k investment can turn into another 4k real fast if you throw a rod through your oil pan. just think about it, you got nothin but time on your side, shit i'd save my cash to buy a better fast car for when you get out of high school, by then an 05 gt would be easy to find, plus its fast already.

cuban3jumper 11-28-2006 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by bcassette (Post 227994)
typical 16 year old response, but hell i was there too. ok, if you dont like what anyone else is saying fine. just think of it like this, some of us learned the hard way and were trying to help you out. but if you want to blow your money on something you wont have in 4 years fine. think about how many miles your car has and what it can really take. how was it driven before you got it, you prolly have no idea unless you got it from a family member. was it driven nice, and well kept or driven hard as shit and it worn out. as an example, a turbo would be nice, but will the motor handle it. your 2k investment can turn into another 4k real fast if you throw a rod through your oil pan. just think about it, you got nothin but time on your side, shit i'd save my cash to buy a better fast car for when you get out of high school, by then an 05 gt would be easy to find, plus its fast already.



I completely agree with you except for what I bolded. What's the difference between him modding the sixer he has now "not knowing how it was driven before" etc. and buying a used GT? Seems like a pretty poor argument.

Back on topic just do whatever you want with your money bro. Just do a lot of research and have fun.

03DSG 11-28-2006 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by cuban3jumper (Post 228012)
I completely agree with you except for what I bolded. What's the difference between him modding the sixer he has now "not knowing how it was driven before" etc. and buying a used GT? Seems like a pretty poor argument.

Back on topic just do whatever you want with your money bro. Just do a lot of research and have fun.

looking back on it i see what you mean, a used gt could be driven way harder. but hindsite being 20/20, you could find a good condition used car that hasn't been riden hard and put away wet if you do your homework and dont impulse buy. I guess it boils down to putting the money smarty towards the car. do it, but dont over do it, faster is not always better. the faster the car goes, the bigger the crash will be (considering you do crash, and im not saying you will, just making a point).

r3dn3ck 11-29-2006 06:52 AM

Well at least he told me to go to hell such that I'd look forward to the trip. In any case, statistically he will wreck this car in the next 2 years, it will be a serious accident, he will likely be injured and will probably injure someone else.

My admonishment wasn't meant to cap his fun or rag on him for being a kid. Fact is 16yo males are dumb as cumm, he's 16... you do the math. I was 16 once and did wreck a perfectly good car but I had the courtesy to do it by myself, out in the middle of the desert and not on the highway. The car was mostly fine but still... I was 16 and being 16 I made a serious mistake. The one thing I didn't recognize at the time was that physics is a bitch and I THOUGHT I knew how to drive well because I had training. Imagine my surprise.... imagine his.

01FR500 11-29-2006 09:32 AM

Yeah it's a statistic, but there are plenty of people that are not reckless and do not fall into that kind of generalization. I got my Mustang when I was 15 and had a cold air kit, dual exhaust, rims and several other mods on it before I even got my licensee. It's what I wanted to spend my money on. Luckily at the age of 18 now I have never been the cause of a wreck (I hit a raccoon and been rear-ended) or gotten any kind of ticket (knock on wood). I have done stupid things, but I go to the drag strip when I can and the Autocross course when it is available. Bwesky, do what makes you happy just don't be stupid and prove the insurance companies right. Do the mods that CubanJumper stated. ohh, something that I have always done is save up twice as much money as you need to get the mod, if you still want it in the end then you have plently of money and some to put in the bank.

r3dn3ck 11-29-2006 10:12 AM

that last bit is probably one of the best bits of advice I've come across in a long time. :) nice.

Whatever you do, remember it only takes once. Otherwise... mega power is mega fun, so have some of both but be responsible about it.

Teal_Beast 11-29-2006 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by bcassette (Post 227994)
typical 16 year old response, but hell i was there too. ok, if you dont like what anyone else is saying fine. just think of it like this, some of us learned the hard way and were trying to help you out. but if you want to blow your money on something you wont have in 4 years fine. think about how many miles your car has and what it can really take. how was it driven before you got it, you prolly have no idea unless you got it from a family member. was it driven nice, and well kept or driven hard as shit and it worn out. as an example, a turbo would be nice, but will the motor handle it. your 2k investment can turn into another 4k real fast if you throw a rod through your oil pan. just think about it, you got nothin but time on your side, shit i'd save my cash to buy a better fast car for when you get out of high school, by then an 05 gt would be easy to find, plus its fast already.


lol . . . . . you dont have a v6 do you? Do have an idea what they are capable of?

r3dn3ck 11-29-2006 11:12 AM

Near as I can tell the limit has been raised to just a tad over 600rwhp. That's plenty of ways to get into trouble. Still, the average 6er car is in fact a wimp (average... not yours or anything like it) crying out for a turbo. Then they're pretty damned exciting and snappy handling is much easier to get with a 6 than an 8. Still, I like my 8's.

Teal_Beast 11-29-2006 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 228115)
Near as I can tell the limit has been raised to just a tad over 600rwhp. That's plenty of ways to get into trouble. Still, the average 6er car is in fact a wimp (average... not yours or anything like it) crying out for a turbo. Then they're pretty damned exciting and snappy handling is much easier to get with a 6 than an 8. Still, I like my 8's.


Nobody has split the stock block, also, nobody has broken the stock 4.2 crank (hyperutectic)

As for Shortblocks, there is a guy just under 500whp now with stock rods/pistons (both hyperutectic)

But the v6 is a slow piece of garbage without some sort of power adder, very few get over 250whp N/A

03DSG 11-29-2006 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by Teal_Beast (Post 228110)
lol . . . . . you dont have a v6 do you? Do have an idea what they are capable of?

I was making a point, never mind the exact specs involved, this isnt about what the car can and can not really do.

Teal_Beast 11-29-2006 12:11 PM

The bottom line is he is asking for advice on how to mod his car, and what mods to go with. Thats what this forum is about.

MOOORE POOWWAHHH

03DSG 11-29-2006 12:58 PM

but more than just mods, its also about people getting good advice in other things as well. power is great and fun and so is spending money. but, when your 16 you know everything, you drive awesome and your superman all rolled into one. it takes an event to happen close to home to realize your not all of these thing because you are 16. others and myself said, save your cash up which is the best advice. put it wisely towards something, dont blow it. when your 16 you really not know what and "o shit" moment is until its too late. I still stand behind: young driver + lots 'o power = higher insurance rates for the rest of us.

I did use a an example, maybe not the best, put it got the point across. its his mony and he can whatever he wants with it, besides he dont care for what we are saying unless its what he wants to hear. which brings me to my final point....opions are just like assholes....everyones got one...

Teal_Beast 11-29-2006 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by bcassette (Post 228139)
but more than just mods, its also about people getting good advice in other things as well. power is great and fun and so is spending money. but, when your 16 you know everything, you drive awesome and your superman all rolled into one. it takes an event to happen close to home to realize your not all of these thing because you are 16. others and myself said, save your cash up which is the best advice. put it wisely towards something, dont blow it. when your 16 you really not know what and "o shit" moment is until its too late. I still stand behind: young driver + lots 'o power = higher insurance rates for the rest of us.

I did use a an example, maybe not the best, put it got the point across. its his mony and he can whatever he wants with it, besides he dont care for what we are saying unless its what he wants to hear. which brings me to my final point....opions are just like assholes....everyones got one...

Certainly, i guess myself being so close to this 16 age (im 20, only 4 years older) and the fact that i bought my mustang when i JUST turned 18, and have been modding it heavly since. I get a little bent out of shape when people pull the "your young you dont know what your doing" card. I try to base maturaty on Maturaty, rather then Maturity on age. While i understand that knowlage comes with age, i also know there are pleanty of people well over 16 that i would rather not have behind the wheel of a 300+whp car

bwesky 11-29-2006 02:08 PM

thank you teal! you guys dont really know that much becausse my mom has been letting em drive her excalade (60k car) by MYSELF since i was 13, trustme im more mature then many many people at my school and my age group. but this forum is causing a sore spot in alot of people , very sorry:shakeno:

r3dn3ck 11-29-2006 02:18 PM

and I've been driving big hp cars since I was 10... still didn't make a damn bit of difference once I got my own car to destroy. I wrecked it at 16 like everyone else is likely to do.

I don't want to talk down to you but try to understand, almost all of us have nearly 10 years on you (some like me a good bit more)... and we're trying to help you make good choices that you'd thank us for later but, yes we're fooling ourselves if we think for a second that you'll listen. You'll make your own mistakes and learn from them just like we did and then when you're 30 you'll tell 16yo kids to chill out till after they're 18 or 21 or 25 or whatever age is popular then.

I don't doubt that you as an individual are capable of being and acting mature; hell we all were capable of that at 16... the issue is, are you able to do that when you're sloppy drunk and mega stoned and bonzin' around BFE with your buddies? When I was in school there was nobody cool enough to resist peer pressure 100% of the time and nobody even approaching mature enough to make the good choices all the time. If there were I wouldn't have spent nearly as many nights in the back seat of police cars watching the cops tell my mom exactly what I had been doing, to whom, or with what kitchen utensils.

bwesky 11-29-2006 02:40 PM

ahahahaa:kekekegay:

r3dn3ck 11-29-2006 03:04 PM

either: you think I'm kidding, which would be pretty funny on its own... or you're sure I'm not (the actual case)... in which case you'd be wondering what about some pretty bizarre things. Let's just say she was a SLLLLLLLUT.

bwesky 11-29-2006 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 228167)
If there were I wouldn't have spent nearly as many nights in the back seat of police cars watching the cops tell my mom exactly what I had been doing, to whom, or with what kitchen utensils.

i under stanfd what your saying and im just going to save until i turn 18 and see what i can do.

^^^^but this part, is ****ing hilariuous omg!

r3dn3ck 11-29-2006 03:23 PM

I try. Some day I'll regail you with some of the more dubious experiences of my well misspent youth. If I knew then what I know now... I'd certainly be in prison for life.

Codiddy 11-29-2006 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck
If there were I wouldn't have spent nearly as many nights in the back seat of police cars watching the cops tell my mom exactly what I had been doing, to whom, or with what kitchen utensils.

Ha ha hilarious and i got a new sig!

GREG@SN95 11-29-2006 06:29 PM

alright... back on topic...

if i was you I'd sell it for a GT

you could...

Nitrous (add alot of TQ and sixxers lack it)
4.10s (MIN)
headers
cam
dyno tune

thats the best bang fot yer buck power wise...


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