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MustangGt3 10-16-2006 02:28 PM

Manual Vs Auto?
 
Ok so I just moved from cali to utah and i pretty much got screwed over with car prices in utah. Cars here mostly mustangs are way over priced and im having a hard time finding a manual although i can find autos all day. My problem is i want to race (drag) and i heard auto mustangs dont shift very well is this true, and if not are autos good or should i wait for a stick.

Jack The Ripper 10-16-2006 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by MustangGt3 (Post 214531)
Ok so I just moved from cali to utah and i pretty much got screwed over with car prices in utah. Cars here mostly mustangs are way over priced and im having a hard time finding a manual although i can find autos all day. My problem is i want to race (drag) and i heard auto mustangs dont shift very well is this true, and if not are autos good or should i wait for a stick.

The autos shift fast and they never miss a shift.

i dunno who you were talking to but they dont know much about mustangs....

it is whatever you preffer. The autos have a litttle bit more drivetrain loss, but you dont have to worry about missing a gear. a lot ofpeople who are really into the drag racing swear bu auto

mustangvsix 10-16-2006 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Jack The Ripper (Post 214541)
The autos shift fast and they never miss a shift.

i dunno who you were talking to but they dont know much about mustangs....

it is whatever you preffer. The autos have a litttle bit more drivetrain loss, but you dont have to worry about missing a gear. a lot ofpeople who are really into the drag racing swear bu auto

that plus you can buy an XCAL 2 or some sort of handheld tuner and firm up the shifts, and adjust several other peramaters and that will help you out a bit.

stanger00 10-17-2006 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by mustangvsix (Post 214618)
that plus you can buy an XCAL 2 or some sort of handheld tuner and firm up the shifts, and adjust several other peramaters and that will help you out a bit.

it would be better to do a j mod or buy a valve body. that will give you some hard shifts. when i had a diablo hand held i didnt get any change in performance i track tested it. i went faster stock

there is nothing wrong with a auto. mine was fine till it started shifting late on WOT 1/4 mile drags.

01FR500 10-17-2006 08:37 AM

My auto shifted fine stock, but with the programmer it will shift at 5250-5100rpm and hard, sometimes too hard and break the tires loose. I like driving and racing stick but for a daily driver I'd want nothing other than my auto. I've seen alot of Cobra owners change thier six speed to automatics.

Cheddarbob 10-17-2006 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by 01FR500 (Post 214863)
My auto shifted fine stock, but with the programmer it will shift at 5250-5100rpm and hard, sometimes too hard and break the tires loose. I like driving and racing stick but for a daily driver I'd want nothing other than my auto. I've seen alot of Cobra owners change thier six speed to automatics.

true dat. Same w/ my programer hard shift

oh yeah 01FR500 in ur auto have u ever hit 7000rpm? it seems impossible to do

01FR500 10-17-2006 06:57 PM

No I haven't and wouldn't want to. Valve float, and all kinds of other problems like a blown engine hang around 7000 rpm, plus I think peak HP is around 5200 rpm. I have the rev limiter set to 5500. Do you know anybody that has met 7000 rpm with a v6 mustang?

Cheddarbob 10-17-2006 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by 01FR500 (Post 215072)
No I haven't and wouldn't want to. Valve float, and all kinds of other problems like a blown engine hang around 7000 rpm, plus I think peak HP is around 5200 rpm. I have the rev limiter set to 5500. Do you know anybody that has met 7000 rpm with a v6 mustang?

Yeah i havent reached it. the highest i ever got was 6250rpm and before my chip it only went to 5200rpm. So i think that there is no way to get that high, to much stress. no i dont know anyone that has. but could a V8 so it with ease?

GREG@SN95 10-17-2006 10:05 PM

manual for racing...

more control (shifting etc)
and they don't lose as much power to the wheels

stock for stock that is...

A c4 or similar tranny are the best racing trannys

jjtgiants 10-18-2006 10:23 AM

Who moves from Cali to Utah?? Weird. Anyway, I think Auto's are more consistent, but they do soak up some power compared to 5 speeds. If you master shifting with a 5 speed you'll be fine.....I say go for a 5 speed if you can find one.

r3dn3ck 10-18-2006 10:37 AM

they both have their ups and downs. I'd never have anything but a manual but thats personal preference. If you want to seriously do some drag racing then get an auto. Missed shifts can be BAD and autos never miss a shift.

And I may be moving to Idaho from California. I'm just sick of this damned state. I can make 6 figures in ID or I can make it here in Cali... Idaho lets those dollars go further and I can own a few houses there. We'll see if I get the job.

jjtgiants 10-18-2006 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 215227)
they both have their ups and downs. I'd never have anything but a manual but thats personal preference. If you want to seriously do some drag racing then get an auto. Missed shifts can be BAD and autos never miss a shift.

And I may be moving to Idaho from California. I'm just sick of this damned state. I can make 6 figures in ID or I can make it here in Cali... Idaho lets those dollars go further and I can own a few houses there. We'll see if I get the job.

Very true, if you can make the same money out of this state you'll be doing VERY well for yourself.....I've thought about moving, but then the winter hits and then I realize why I like it here! ha ha.....but the cost of living in Cali is getting pretty out of hand.

Cheddarbob 10-18-2006 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by r3dn3ck (Post 215227)
they both have their ups and downs. I'd never have anything but a manual but thats personal preference. If you want to seriously do some drag racing then get an auto. Missed shifts can be BAD and autos never miss a shift.

And I may be moving to Idaho from California. I'm just sick of this damned state. I can make 6 figures in ID or I can make it here in Cali... Idaho lets those dollars go further and I can own a few houses there. We'll see if I get the job.

True but ya lose the ocean, for me in San Diego i cant leave such a beautiful thing

MustangGt3 10-18-2006 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Cheddarbob (Post 215238)
True but ya lose the ocean, for me in San Diego i cant leave such a beautiful thing

yeah he has a point though i was near carmel(that beach sucks) but i did the surfing thing but we bought a pretty big company out here and the cost of living is dirt cheap, the culture change was a little weird though, but yeah cali is a beautiful state and you do lose the ocean.

MustangGt3 10-18-2006 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by jjtgiants (Post 215223)
Who moves from Cali to Utah?? Weird. Anyway, I think Auto's are more consistent, but they do soak up some power compared to 5 speeds. If you master shifting with a 5 speed you'll be fine.....I say go for a 5 speed if you can find one.

i've had a 5 speed truck sense ive been driving and ive never stalled it or misshifted but when theres money involved anything can happen. but speaking of money for the guys out there what race for money what are you against, do you need to supe your car up to race for money?

SnTBakosFinest 10-23-2006 11:41 PM

I'm running a auto v6.. when i race i start out in first.. then second, then drive.. i get higher rpms that way.. shifting first to second i do tend to break traction but its not too bad.. and i've raced a modded v6 manual.. lost to him by a car.. (wasn't too much done.)

Automatic is great for every day driving..especially in california.. here in bakersfield i head down to los angeles ... driving a manual in that sort of traffic is hell.

I would prefer a manual for racing, but, my automatic isn't too bad, i can still whip the hell out of a rice burner any day. ;p

PColav6 10-24-2006 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by 01FR500 (Post 214863)
My auto shifted fine stock, but with the programmer it will shift at 5250-5100rpm and hard, sometimes too hard and break the tires loose. I like driving and racing stick but for a daily driver I'd want nothing other than my auto. I've seen alot of Cobra owners change thier six speed to automatics.

Does it do that even when not at WOT ?

GREG@SN95 10-24-2006 08:41 PM

the answer is manual.. case close:topicclosed:

xanderxii 10-30-2006 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by GREG@SN95 (Post 217119)
the answer is manual.. case close:topicclosed:

Yes Indeed ^_^


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