subframe connector are they worth it

sbrooks · 12-09-2004, 12:44 PM

I am looking at buying some SFC for my stang to stop the rattle and squeaks. Are they worth the price? Do I need full length for daily driving and maybe an occasional run at the track?

2000blackone · 12-09-2004, 01:42 PM

They are definitely worth it. Get the full length ones and have them welded on.

ChrisXoxide · 12-09-2004, 01:44 PM

Yes worth it. Big time. lol Everyone keeps telling me this and I still don't have them on my car yet. I've had a hundred people tell me the many advantages of putting them on though.

WaterDR · 12-09-2004, 02:13 PM

For a vert, they are a must. For a hardtop, they are a must if you are or plan on serious added power. You need full lengths for a roll cage I believe too. For a near stock hardtop, they will make the car feel new longer by keeping it tighter.

mgar22 · 12-09-2004, 02:30 PM

Not trying to take over this thread, but what are subframe connectors for?

WaterDR · 12-09-2004, 02:42 PM

The mustang does not have a frame. It is uni-body construction...like most cars. SFC attache the front of the car to the back of the car rigidly and add stiffness to the car. stock GT's have cheap crappy SFC on them from the factory. I took them off and have Steeda ones I bought at MT.

*madmatt* · 12-09-2004, 08:17 PM

Hey chris, do yall carry the Steeda Zinc coated ones? Im going to order some in the near future, and want to get them from you guys if you have the Steedas, Im stuck between those and the Maximum Motorsports ones.

ChrisXoxide · 12-10-2004, 07:43 AM

Yeah we can get any Steeda product, if we don't already have them. Just call Bob he can do special orders if you need them.

Chopper · 12-10-2004, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbrooks

I am looking at buying some SFC for my stang to stop the rattle and squeaks. Are they worth the price? Do I need full length for daily driving and maybe an occasional run at the track?

Rattles and squeaks???I had rattles and squeaks.Take the car back to the dealer and have them use the Chassis Ears

They found the rear control arm bushings were dried out and worn.This with less than 5000 mi.Guess Ford was using up all the old parts before the 05's came out.

*4.6 Love* · 12-11-2004, 10:16 AM

Yeah...they are definately worht it...don't get the bolt on kind...get the welded on ones..

sbrooks · 12-12-2004, 08:27 AM

i ordered the maximum motorsports SFC from ebay got a good deal just need to get them welded in thanks for all the advice

dilo2001gt · 12-12-2004, 08:41 AM

so what do they make better handling? 1/4 times?

Islander03GT · 12-12-2004, 04:11 PM

Mainly better handling. A good idea for the strip though because the twist on launch can tear the subframes apart. The connectors stop a good amount of that twist.

sbrooks · 12-13-2004, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Islander03GT

Mainly better handling. A good idea for the strip though because the twist on launch can tear the subframes apart. The connectors stop a good amount of that twist.

better handling in turns or straights

Islander03GT · 12-13-2004, 11:47 AM

Both.

All around best suspension mod you can do to these cars.

sbrooks · 12-13-2004, 12:25 PM

thanks I hope to have them in this week

*madmatt* · 12-13-2004, 08:49 PM

Another Q...will new subframe connectors provide a good jacking point on the side of the car, or should I still use the jack locations, and also, when installed, you have to remove the interior correct?

WaterDR · 12-13-2004, 09:37 PM

You should be able to jack on them. The interior only needs to be pulled for full length subframes which is why so many use the shorter ones. Full length are only needed for roll cages and the like.

gtstang03 · 12-15-2004, 10:24 PM

Subframes are definately a must! Make the car feel stiff and make it handle the way mustang should!

sbrooks · 12-16-2004, 11:07 AM

stil waiting for them to come in the mail........................sucks

Lamar · 12-17-2004, 10:31 PM

Which brand of Full Lenght SFC are better or easier to install ?

Maximum Motorsports ?
Steeda ?

I wanted MM but MT sell Steeda...

my2001GT · 12-18-2004, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT's#1Customer!

The mustang does not have a frame. It is uni-body construction...like most cars. SFC attache the front of the car to the back of the car rigidly and add stiffness to the car. stock GT's have cheap crappy SFC on them from the factory. I took them off and have Steeda ones I bought at MT.

-- Well stated

my2001GT · 12-18-2004, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgar22

Not trying to take over this thread, but what are subframe connectors for?

In a nut shell: They eliminate body twist in hard launches and other benifits come as well, but not sure what else... Somebody correct me if I'm incorrect...HTH

sbrooks · 12-21-2004, 11:01 AM

got my sfc's installed and the car feels like it handles a little better, but no SOTP HP...............just kidding thanks for all the help.

Silvr04GT · 12-23-2004, 12:57 PM

Ya, I'm definitely going to get some MM full length SFC. When you get them welded in make sure the car has its weight on the wheels because if the car is hanging the unibody might be in a weird position and once the welds are done you'd be in trouble!

12-09-2004, 12:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
sbrooks Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: El Paso, TX/FOB Marez, Iraq Posts: 173	subframe connector are they worth it I am looking at buying some SFC for my stang to stop the rattle and squeaks. Are they worth the price? Do I need full length for daily driving and maybe an occasional run at the track? __________________ 2004 Mach 1 Black 5 Speed, K&N FIPK, MGW Shifter Flowmasters, 18" Black Chrome rims, H&R SS Spring MM Casters, Mach Catted H-Pipe, 4:10 gears 1998 Cobra Black Flowmasters catback, MGW shifter, JLT RAI http://sbrooks.gotstang.com

12-09-2004, 01:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
2000blackone tire techy Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ann Arbor. MI / West Lafayette, IN Posts: 113	They are definitely worth it. Get the full length ones and have them welded on. __________________ Boost yah? For further info on her and her stablemate, click here.

12-09-2004, 02:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,395	For a vert, they are a must. For a hardtop, they are a must if you are or plan on serious added power. You need full lengths for a roll cage I believe too. For a near stock hardtop, they will make the car feel new longer by keeping it tighter. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

12-09-2004, 02:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
mgar22 Garmonbozia!! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 167	Not trying to take over this thread, but what are subframe connectors for? __________________ 2000 Mustang GT Cpe: Black on Black, Saleen Rep wheels: 18x9 Frnt, 18X10 Rear (MT), Eibach Prokit springs, Mac Prochamber, Flowmaster, 3.90 Motives (MT), Xcalibrator 2 (custom tuned), C&L Plenum/Mac 75mm TB, Steeda UDP's. 2000 Suzuki GSXR 600: Jet Kit (Stage 1) Micron full exhaust

12-09-2004, 02:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,395	The mustang does not have a frame. It is uni-body construction...like most cars. SFC attache the front of the car to the back of the car rigidly and add stiffness to the car. stock GT's have cheap crappy SFC on them from the factory. I took them off and have Steeda ones I bought at MT. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

12-09-2004, 01:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
ChrisXoxide Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 175	Yes worth it. Big time. lol Everyone keeps telling me this and I still don't have them on my car yet. I've had a hundred people tell me the many advantages of putting them on though.

12-09-2004, 08:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,936	Hey chris, do yall carry the Steeda Zinc coated ones? Im going to order some in the near future, and want to get them from you guys if you have the Steedas, Im stuck between those and the Maximum Motorsports ones. __________________ RPMPlanets

12-10-2004, 07:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
ChrisXoxide Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 175	Yeah we can get any Steeda product, if we don't already have them. Just call Bob he can do special orders if you need them.

12-11-2004, 10:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
4.6 Love Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 6,183	Yeah...they are definately worht it...don't get the bolt on kind...get the welded on ones.. __________________ Go Cowboys! X pipe and flows

12-12-2004, 08:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
sbrooks Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: El Paso, TX/FOB Marez, Iraq Posts: 173	i ordered the maximum motorsports SFC from ebay got a good deal just need to get them welded in thanks for all the advice __________________ 2004 Mach 1 Black 5 Speed, K&N FIPK, MGW Shifter Flowmasters, 18" Black Chrome rims, H&R SS Spring MM Casters, Mach Catted H-Pipe, 4:10 gears 1998 Cobra Black Flowmasters catback, MGW shifter, JLT RAI http://sbrooks.gotstang.com

12-12-2004, 08:41 AM	#12 (permalink)
dilo2001gt Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 103	so what do they make better handling? 1/4 times?

12-12-2004, 04:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
Islander03GT Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Simi Valley, Ca Posts: 717	Mainly better handling. A good idea for the strip though because the twist on launch can tear the subframes apart. The connectors stop a good amount of that twist. __________________ John V 06 Honda Accord SE- Daily Driver 83 Jeep Cherokee W/T- Off Road Toy 02 Mineral Gray V6 Vert- Girlfriends No more: 03 GT- The Problem Child

12-13-2004, 11:47 AM	#15 (permalink)
Islander03GT Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Simi Valley, Ca Posts: 717	Both. All around best suspension mod you can do to these cars. __________________ John V 06 Honda Accord SE- Daily Driver 83 Jeep Cherokee W/T- Off Road Toy 02 Mineral Gray V6 Vert- Girlfriends No more: 03 GT- The Problem Child

12-13-2004, 12:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
sbrooks Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: El Paso, TX/FOB Marez, Iraq Posts: 173	thanks I hope to have them in this week __________________ 2004 Mach 1 Black 5 Speed, K&N FIPK, MGW Shifter Flowmasters, 18" Black Chrome rims, H&R SS Spring MM Casters, Mach Catted H-Pipe, 4:10 gears 1998 Cobra Black Flowmasters catback, MGW shifter, JLT RAI http://sbrooks.gotstang.com

12-13-2004, 08:49 PM	#17 (permalink)
madmatt Traitor...lol Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 7,936	Another Q...will new subframe connectors provide a good jacking point on the side of the car, or should I still use the jack locations, and also, when installed, you have to remove the interior correct? __________________ RPMPlanets

12-13-2004, 09:37 PM	#18 (permalink)
WaterDR Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,395	You should be able to jack on them. The interior only needs to be pulled for full length subframes which is why so many use the shorter ones. Full length are only needed for roll cages and the like. __________________ Black 2000 GT Vert: Novi-2000 with Intercooler (375rwhp @ 9 psi); Tune by Kauffmans; Roush 380R Body kit; Steeda Subframes; Steeda Strut Tower Support; Deep Dish Bullets; FRPP 4:10's; SCT 4 Position Chip with four custom tunes; Steeda CAI; C&L Pleum; BBK 75 TB; SLP Loudmouth; SLP Catted X-Pipe; Bullitt Suspension; UPR Conrol Arms; Focus Fuel Pump My Car My Email

12-15-2004, 10:24 PM	#19 (permalink)
gtstang03 Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Redding, Ca Posts: 33	Subframes are definately a must! Make the car feel stiff and make it handle the way mustang should! __________________ PERFORMANCE MODS Old Procharger setup 394 hp 393 tq New MMR Longblock and Novi! Numbers coming soon!

12-16-2004, 11:07 AM	#20 (permalink)
sbrooks Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: El Paso, TX/FOB Marez, Iraq Posts: 173	stil waiting for them to come in the mail........................sucks __________________ 2004 Mach 1 Black 5 Speed, K&N FIPK, MGW Shifter Flowmasters, 18" Black Chrome rims, H&R SS Spring MM Casters, Mach Catted H-Pipe, 4:10 gears 1998 Cobra Black Flowmasters catback, MGW shifter, JLT RAI http://sbrooks.gotstang.com

12-17-2004, 10:31 PM	#21 (permalink)
Lamar Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 49	Which brand of Full Lenght SFC are better or easier to install ? Maximum Motorsports ? Steeda ? I wanted MM but MT sell Steeda...

12-21-2004, 11:01 AM	#24 (permalink)
sbrooks Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: El Paso, TX/FOB Marez, Iraq Posts: 173	got my sfc's installed and the car feels like it handles a little better, but no SOTP HP...............just kidding thanks for all the help. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 Black 5 Speed, K&N FIPK, MGW Shifter Flowmasters, 18" Black Chrome rims, H&R SS Spring MM Casters, Mach Catted H-Pipe, 4:10 gears 1998 Cobra Black Flowmasters catback, MGW shifter, JLT RAI http://sbrooks.gotstang.com

12-23-2004, 12:57 PM	#25 (permalink)
Silvr04GT Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Regina, SK Canada Posts: 58	Ya, I'm definitely going to get some MM full length SFC. When you get them welded in make sure the car has its weight on the wheels because if the car is hanging the unibody might be in a weird position and once the welds are done you'd be in trouble! __________________ 2004 Silver Mustang GT - 14.617 @ 95.067 Magnapack Catback, MagnaFlow X-Pipe w/ Cats, K&N w/ Air Silencer Removed, SCT Chip, 2003 Cobra Rims w/ Nitto NT555 (275/40R17), MM Caster Camber Plates, H&R Super Sport Springs, FRPP 3.73 Gears, Pro 5.0 Shifter, 2001 Cobra Bumper, Stainless Steel Mustang Scuff Plates, Bullitt Shifter Knob/Fuel Door, P&P Intake Plenum, FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft and More... My CarDomain Site

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