Jason24

i hate PEOPLE like Kanye West... weather they be black,white,asian,hispanic whatever. people like him are attention whores... he does and says anything to get attention drawn to himself... hes always talking about how "confident" he is... well to tell you the truth... he looks retarded and most of his music sucks, so he shouldnt brag so much. hes also very anti-white-people/anti-government... thats problly the seed of the reason i dont like him... :censored:

__________________

2003 Sonic Blue Mustang V6 Auto Mods
-Saleen Black 18x9 front//18x10 back rims
-Saleen Front Fascia
-Eibach Pro-Kit Springs
-Grill Delete
-285/35/18 Falken tires back
-265/35/18 Falken tires front
-CAI
-dual 40 series flowmasters dumps exhuast

Saving Up For:
Saleen: rear bumper/side skirts/3 piece wing, Bilstein Shocks & Struts, SCT Tuner.

GREG@94GT

no...

although bush isnt perfect, NOONE WILL EVER BE because everyone wants something different out of the gov...

last week my paycheck said GROSS 243.00
i only got 196.77
and the democrats just love to raise taxes... if MR LOCKBOX or this Kerry douche was elected i bet i'd be gettin less than 196.77...

+Abortion is murder...
+i'm sick off the bull**** that democrats love... Afirmative Action, gun laws, etc etc etc

dom

i dont like how they would hire a retarded black guy before an educated white person because of this affirmative action bull****

__________________
2007 explorer limited
procharged 2002gt sold
new project: 427w c4 9" fox

GREG@94GT

exactly why i vote republican...

dom

Me Too

__________________
2007 explorer limited
procharged 2002gt sold
new project: 427w c4 9" fox

jjtgiants

Wow, I was right......you are a confederate flag raising red neck! Anyway, I wouldn't knock taxes too much cause someone has to pay for rednecks and hillbilies who need a new set of teeth or deliver redneck babies and don't have any health insurance.

I will agree that no elected official, including the President can be all things to all people so we will probably never fully agree on issues, but that's what makes this country great!

I'm a white dude, but as for Affirmative action we need to keep it cause I might need it to get my next job here in Cali! ha ha ha

Milos

Yeah but because of Tyrone and Shanikwa I now have a slimer chance getting into a diversified college because I'm white.

But I already got into a college, but that doesn't mean that the situation I just said didn't happen! And I personally like George Bush, I think he's a good man with good intentions and probably, whether you like it or not, twenty years from now will go down in history as one of the greatest Presidents in history... just you watch.

Hey-- at least he didn't get impeached like the democrat's prime example

__________________

jjtgiants

Yeah, I'm sure his time in office will for sure be in the history books.......for going to war over false intelligence......and increasing the National Debt by over $3 Trillion dollars!

Here's what I think....did I vote for him either time...NO, but is he still my president?? Yes, he sure is.....I have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt several times, but in my opinion he keeps screwing up. Do I think he stepped up to the plate when 9/11 hit....Yes, but he really screwed up with Iraq and it's costing a lot of young men and women their lives....and for what??? To protect our freedoms.....please...Iraq was no threat to invade the United States or attack us with nuclear weapons......

so ask yourself this......Out of all the nations that are developing or supposedly developing or already have nuclear weapons why go after Iraq??? Why not Noth Korea, why not Iran.....Iran is much worse than Iraq is. hmmmm......I don't know the answer, but it might have something to do with that substance we put in ou cars!

Jack The Ripper

----------Yeah, I'm sure his time in office will for sure be in the history books.......for going to war over false intelligence......------------

We diddnt go to war because of false intelligence, we went to war because time and time again he blocked the un weapons inspectors. If saddam would have cooperated, then we never would have gone out there...

---------Here's what I think....did I vote for him either time...NO, but is he still my president?? Yes, he sure is.....I have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt several times, but in my opinion he keeps screwing up.-------
Give the guy a break, he is only slightly more intelligent than a chuimpanzee ROFL

-----Do I think he stepped up to the plate when 9/11 hit....Yes, but he really screwed up with Iraq and it's costing a lot of young men and women their lives....and for what??? To protect our freedoms.....please...Iraq was no threat to invade the United States or attack us with nuclear weapons.----

Once again, if saddam would have cooperated we would have known weather or not he had any, however, with him constantly blocking the un inspectors what did he expect us to think?

-----......Out of all the nations that are developing or supposedly developing or already have nuclear weapons why go after Iraq??? Why not Noth Korea, why not Iran.....Iran is much worse than Iraq is. hmmmm......I don't know the answer, but it might have something to do with that substance we put in ou cars!----------
That is a good point, why iraq? In this instance, he did not have the capability to deliver a nuclear strike against the unites states as North korea has demonstrated to us back in 1996 when they shot a missle over japan where we have a large military presence, proving that they could deliver massive devistation.
Think of it like this, you have 2 kids with guns that may or may not shoot you. Then you have a third who also might shoot you, but he doesent have a gun. In this case, it is best to go ahead and eliminate the growing threat with force and try to deal with the larger more immediate threats with diplomacy. The larger threats have already shown thier capability to destroy american lives, thus they need to be handled in a more cautious manner, lest they get pissed off and drop a nuke on one of our bases overseas and kill 10's of thousands of americans.
Saddam diddnt quite have that ability yet, or at least had no shown it. The lack of evidence does not mean proof that he did not have those weapon programs in place, however, if he would have cooperated with the UN weapons inspectors we wouldnt have invaded. At the same time, while he dodged the UN he discredited thier power to many other nations that might have similar ambitions, saddam did a good job of showing that the UN were a bunch of spinless pusseys. America finally wanted to step up to bat, but the UN wouldnt ciooperate, they wanted to klet saddam block the inspectors without punishment. It basically gave him credibility.

Saddam was a horrible person, he had literally hundreds of thousands of people killed. his children were even worse than he was.

Why wait untill a cancer grows to be deadly before dealing with it?

As for oil, i wont deny part of this has to do with oil. Think about it though, Oil. We need oil. We have to have oil or our entire country will collapse unless we find a way to offload ourselfs of that need. If we diddnt need the oil we probably would let them do whatever they want.
Now, personally, i have no idea to pay 9 bucks a gallon at the pumps. It is in america's best interest and yours as well since you live here, that we do have a degree of power over the worlds oil supplys. If tyhe oil jacks up to 9 bucks, imagine what that would cost everything. Energy, Shipping, transportation, everything would skyrocket in cost, millions would lose thier jobs, our economy would crumble.
Are a couple fat cats gertting rich off this? Well yeah sure they are, but at the same time we contonue to be able to afford gas and have economic growth.

Saddam was dodging the inspectors, he could have cooperated. since he dodged them he completly undermined any authority of the UN. He showed that the UN would demand this and demand that, but in the end they would never enforce what they demanded. America realized that this was discrediting the authority of the UN and the UN was willing to let its demands and intentions meaningless.

We killed a tumore before it became the same cancer as iran and north korea.

And yes, it was about oil as well. Without it america would totally collapse, and if a few people get rich off it, i really dont care, as long as i have a job, food, and a place to sleep.

People can say what they will about it being about oil, and most of everyone knows that had something to do with it, problem is everyone sees that some get rich off of it and that blinds them to what would happen if we dont control oil.
Good by america, goodbye personal freedoms, goodbye free speech, right to bear arms, and right to assembly. Goodbye to one of the best justice systems in the world (has problems but look at china's legal system)

anyways, thats all i got on that.

Badfish

Holy sh*t slappy, you gonna get that novel published?

__________________

Jack The Ripper

Rofl, yeah, that was a bit long winded. Sometimes some suffer sometimes some get rich, people need to be able to see past that to the overall big picture. I agree with so many arguements of both sides, i think bush is a freakin moron, at the same time, i believe iraq needed to have its ass handed to it before it became another north korea with weapons capabilitys that force us to tip toe lightly to where dealing with the threat in a forceful manor would mean millions and millions of possible casualtys.

Milos

hell yeah-- of course the liberal media doesn't tell you that 3/4th's of American foreign oil comes from South America... and they don't tell you that every freaking country in the United Nations (France, Germany, Russia... and even CHINA) said that he had WMDs... not just the US there spanky.

__________________

Jack The Ripper

Milos is wise indeed.

a part will always be about oil, however, the entire big picture needs to be looked at, not just from what you hear from some person.


Here is a little side note, As odd as it sounds, Iraq should be glad that we invaded them now instead of 30 years ago. In vietnam over 58,000 american solders were killed, over 1 million vietmanese soldiers were killed, and over 4 million vietmanese civilians were killed. That's pretty damn sloppy compared to now-a-days where we can attack specific targets with pinpoint accurracy rather than carpetbombingentire towns.

Milos

Thats the benefits of being a teenage conservative in a predominately democratic state, you already know what they're going to say because you've heard it all, and you can already formulate a response. I did a whole debate on this issue in civics, me vs. 22 others that disagreed.

There's a whole bunch of other reasons why the war in Iraq was justified... but I'm here for my car man, I don't want to get into politics.

__________________

jjtgiants

Nice job man....I think you made some great points. You know Slappy I'll say this....I've worked directly for two elected officials helping to develop public policy both at the State and County level and the level of information they get versus what the public gets in not even close. Meaning, they get all the different kinds of security briefings ect..... So one could assume that President Bush knows something the rest of us don't, but can't say! One could assume that, but personally I don't buy it. He at least needs to tell the US soldiers cause I'm not sure they really know why they are in Iraq.

Is the world a better place without Saddam....of course it is, but can the U.S. go around and take every leader in the world out that we don't like?? No, of course we can't.

As for Oil, yeah I hear what your saying man. I agree that we need to have some sort of control over it, but at what cost?? I'm not sure.....

Jack The Ripper

Yah no kidding. Gotta look out for our own interests, also gotta make sure that in doing so we dont shoot ourselves in the foot. Thin line, glad i dont have to make the decision. LOL

jjtgiants

I agree dude, let's get back to talking stangs...enough politics.

Jack The Ripper

Dude. I wish i had a mach1. I'd actually take it over the cobra. Just cause you dont see many Mach1's around. <grin>

jjtgiants

It's not to late man, you can still find them around if you look hard enough

I was cracking up the other day because I saw two other mach's while I was driving to the mall. I was like "what the hell is going on, there aren't supposed to be this many machs running around".....ha ha ...oh well.

CCM

**** all you racists, hate white trash instead.

__________________

Milos

You know, I want to be at least.. offended, or just a little bit pissed off about that comment... but I can't, because of that " " thing.. haha

__________________

GREG@94GT

that made almost no sense...
You're white and NEED afirmative action?
and its not the white "rednecks" that taxes pay for... as i already stated i work ya dumb fu(k...

its the asshole who collect welfare and unemployment...

Get a ****in education...

jjtgiants

I never said you didn't work, I said your tax dollars, which are taken out of your check every month are paying for other people to get health care who can't afford it, along with many other things....I just threw in the redneck statement to be an ass....you know cause the Government helps pay for people to have health coverage who are poor...it's called Medicaid and Medicare for seniors..but you probably didn't know that cause your an idiot.

The Affarmitive action statement was a joke because in the near future white people will be a minority in California.

Oh and by the way, I do have a college degree...so when you get one come back and we'll talk.