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PureStang · 09-05-2005, 08:36 PM

too bad im not in CO...im in PA.....and i am one of 10...yes 10....Stang owners........there are 3 fox bodies....5 94-98 models....and 2 99-04 models(my girlfriend has a 00 v6 and i got a v8.....) i feel special that i have the only 99-04 v8..hehe....even tho i let my GF drive my car every now n then..i know im crazy..haha...

MustangGTman · 09-05-2005, 08:44 PM

Well all of us are crazy to some extent (just some more than others)

*4.6 Love* · 09-15-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoStang

after converting my times here they are:

13.5@106

13.9@94

14.38@98 (missed a shift here)

13.81@102

yay! hahaha overall very happy with my crappy times, not bad for a 97 GT noob!

my 60 foot times were: 2.33, 2.497, 2.397, and 2.382

You miscalcualted somwhere!

Grimmz · 09-15-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by slappy

Here is a better question, who the hell would want to live in luisiana or florida when all you have is volvo's and houses being thrown around in the wind?

Have you seen the females at my school? or hell even down at UM on South Beach???... lol some of the old timers would sprain their neck just tryin to soak everything in. Aside from that, Tally never get hit from any hurricains, we got Miami and Orlando to Buffer everything for us. LoL

Grimmz · 09-15-2005, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoStang

friggin' awesome! i was pleased with my virgin runs, 16.1, 15.89, 16.9 (missed a shift, doh!), and 16.39

just glad i dipped into the 15s, now i need more power!

best reaction tme was .200 not bad times for a 97 Gt first-timer

Springs you should have been there, i pitted next to 2 03 Cobras, both low 12's

(in CO speak)

it was awesome

but elevation sucks big time, cause when you post these times they SUCK compared to others, but hey elevation, you try racing at 5600 ft on a 90* day

Yikes! lol thats what my v6 runs 16's this past june...just a CAI nothin else...Lol

Badfish · 09-15-2005, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimmz

Yikes! lol thats what my v6 runs 16's this past june...just a CAI nothin else...Lol

yeah well he is FIVE THOUSAND feet higher than you

ColoradoStang · 09-15-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 4.6 Love

You miscalcualted somwhere!

what? i used the SAE time slip correcter

it uses Barometric pressure, temp, dew point, elevation, and a helluva a lot of other variables so how did I screw it up?

i just plugged in the stats from my time slip and bam! there it was....

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Yikes! lol thats what my v6 runs 16's this past june...just a CAI nothin else...Lol

you sir are an idiot, welcome to how elevation sucks

ColoradoStang · 09-15-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SpringsStang

yeah well he is FIVE THOUSAND feet higher than you

thanks Springs...damn straight

Shambles · 09-15-2005, 07:17 PM

Five thousand feet wont take a 16 sec run and throw it into the 13's. His car isnt ANYWHERE close to be setup to be running in the 13's. 3.73's and some mufflers DEFINATELY wont put you anywhere near that...

Let me put it into perspective...

I drive a Cobra and im probably only going to be in the mid 13's and ive got a DOHC Engine, and thats being only a few hundred feet above sea level. Maybe if you had, say 4.10's, LT headers and Off-Road X, CAI, Underdrive Pulleys, and a solid tune, you might be in the low fourteens/extremely high 13's.

Badfish · 09-15-2005, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MTShambles

Five thousand feet wont take a 16 sec run and throw it into the 13's. His car isnt ANYWHERE close to be setup to be running in the 13's. 3.73's and some mufflers DEFINATELY wont put you anywhere near that...

Let me put it into perspective...

I drive a Cobra and im probably only going to be in the mid 13's and ive got a DOHC Engine, and thats being only a few hundred feet above sea level. Maybe if you had, say 4.10's, LT headers and Off-Road X, CAI, Underdrive Pulleys, and a solid tune, you might be in the low fourteens/extremely high 13's.

the fastest stock GT has been timed at 13.7 no mods...at all

Grimmz · 09-15-2005, 07:32 PM

yes i know how elevation works, lol thnx me College u H.S., hey here's a lil hint, if your in say Vail, Colorado, (or newhere inside the Rocky's) if you race while a Cold front is overhead the air column on you is compressed as it crosses the Rockies, aka it cool's, therefore ur guna get more decent runs every now and again. Ya gotta use physics every now and again.

Shambles · 09-15-2005, 07:36 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHA O GOD...YOU KILL ME...

Yeah ok lets think about this...

I have a 96 Cobra...stock im churning out about 255-260RWHP. If your going by the "unmodded GT" theory, that means that the fastest FACTORY UNMODDED GT (pre-05) is pushing 260HP AT THE FLYWHEEL. Your pushin at least 230HP to the rear wheels.

If I run my car stock, im going to run a 14.1 to a 13.9 Stock. If you run your car stock, you are in the high fourteens. There is NO WAY you can tell me, that his car, which came base with 215 HP (flywheel) engine, is running faster than my car with a 300HP (flywheel) Stock engine.

Maybe if hes driving around on nothing but the engine and the bare minimum systems, no body paneling, heavy rimes, or anything, then I could POSSIBLY see a low time like that from that car. Otherwise, forget it, even at SAE corrected times there is no way that car would be running 13's.

Lemme see this timeslip from this so called Stock GT running 13's. If your referring to 05's I might believe it, for they are rated at 300HP at the flywheel, but theyre also a heavier car, which means I doubt an 05 could pull it off either.

Badfish · 09-15-2005, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MTShambles

HAHAHAHAHAHA O GOD...YOU KILL ME...

Yeah ok lets think about this...

I have a 96 Cobra...stock im churning out about 255-260RWHP. If your going by the "unmodded GT" theory, that means that the fastest FACTORY UNMODDED GT (pre-05) is pushing 260HP AT THE FLYWHEEL. Your pushin at least 230HP to the rear wheels.

If I run my car stock, im going to run a 14.1 to a 13.9 Stock. If you run your car stock, you are in the high fourteens. There is NO WAY you can tell me, that his car, which came base with 215 HP (flywheel) engine, is running faster than my car with a 300HP (flywheel) Stock engine.

Maybe if hes driving around on nothing but the engine and the bare minimum systems, no body paneling, heavy rimes, or anything, then I could POSSIBLY see a low time like that from that car. Otherwise, forget it, even at SAE corrected times there is no way that car would be running 13's.

Lemme see this timeslip from this so called Stock GT running 13's. If your referring to 05's I might believe it, for they are rated at 300HP at the flywheel, but theyre also a heavier car, which means I doubt an 05 could pull it off either.

lol are you serious you dont beleive it??? i think some of that info has even been posted HERE...mabey your justa ****ty driver, whith that POS t-45(dont worry i have it too), and cant hook, who knows

im not saying everyone can do this, but an extremley good driver at sealevel with perfect conditions can run 13s in a 01+ stock GT

Badfish · 09-15-2005, 07:53 PM

and besides even if I did somehow find that timeslip from ages ago, i wouldnt beable to convince you that it was stock anyway

Shambles · 09-15-2005, 08:14 PM

Dude, not at all..nowhere close. You with that body weight you need to have at least 260 RWHP to run in the 13's.

Your gonna tell me that his car, which has the EXACT SAME body style, dimensions, and approximately the same weight, is going to run FASTER with less RPMS?

HELLO!! LITTLE LESSON IN PHYSICS HERE. MORE HP MEANS MORE GO FAST POWER.

I challenge you to find me a STOCK, and I want BONE STOCK, GT from 96-04 that can run a true 13.7 seconds.

And some of that info has been posted here, where I ask you. Cite me a post. Now. Go search. Find me one. The 01 GT without modification is NOT going to be able to run in the 13's, EVEN WITH an INCREDIBLY GOOD driver without powershifting. Yes I read the article that had the Bullitt that was in the 13's, but the Bullitt isnt a GT, even though the platform is the same (Throttle Body and Intake system varies by a TON, plus the suspension system drops the center of gravity on the car, enabling it to move a bit quicker.)

You cant get into the thirteens putting this down for power: 231.7HP @ 5150 RPM with Stock Gears. Forget it. Not Happening.

And the T-45 isnt that bad. Its actually a pretty damn good Tranny if you firm it up a bit and give it a good clutch to run on.

Dont quote what you dont know. Where are your time slips?

Badfish · 09-15-2005, 08:37 PM

I wasnt saying HIS gt, its a non pi gt...but an 01+ gt can

And I really dont care if you beleive me or not because i'm not going to waste my time and put out the effort to prove something I already know...either way its irrelevant wether it happened or not, so arguing is pointless...so ill keep on knowing that an 01 gt can run 13's and youll keep beleiving it can never happen

and BTW the t-45 is a POS no matter what you do to it

ColoradoStang · 09-15-2005, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimmz

yes i know how elevation works, lol thnx me College u H.S., hey here's a lil hint, if your in say Vail, Colorado, (or newhere inside the Rocky's) if you race while a Cold front is overhead the air column on you is compressed as it crosses the Rockies, aka it cool's, therefore ur guna get more decent runs every now and again. Ya gotta use physics every now and again.

yeh but it was 90* that day, dont worry bud, i understand what youre saying, you and me are good, but what about MTShambles and Springs? this thread just exploded!

i was always under the impression stock GT's ran high 13's at sea level, maybe low low 14's, ? i dont know.

and dont look at me, i have my slips, i just used the correcter on this website, i'll try and find it, maybe it was wrong, but not me

Badfish · 09-15-2005, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoStang

yeh but it was 90* that day, dont worry bud, i understand what youre saying, you and me are good, but what about MTShambles and Springs? this thread just exploded!

i was always under the impression stock GT's ran high 13's at sea level, maybe low low 14's, ? i dont know.

and dont look at me, i have my slips, i just used the correcter on this website, i'll try and find it, maybe it was wrong, but not me

no your not wrong, shambles is being close minded to the fact that a GT can be faster than his slow cobra

ColoradoStang · 09-15-2005, 09:19 PM

Springs have you run Bandimere yet? any slips?

Shambles · 09-15-2005, 09:22 PM

You wanna come out here and say that to my face springs...im sure my "Slow Cobra" would romp your GT hands down. Trust me, you didnt run a 13.7. And until you provide the slips, its all bull****.

Im already starting to push ~275RWHP right now, with an exhaust I should be even closer to 300. I dont think youll be coming anywhere close to me should you come against me on the track.

Badfish · 09-15-2005, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoStang

Springs have you run Bandimere yet? any slips?

no havent even been to any strip yet...debating pmi or bandimere...pmi is 1000 ft lower, but bandimere is nicer..so i dunno mabey ill "practice" at pmi

and shambles, find one post where i said I ran a 13.7

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09-15-2005, 07:17 PM	#39 (permalink)
Shambles The Baninator! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Springfield, PA Posts: 2,652	Five thousand feet wont take a 16 sec run and throw it into the 13's. His car isnt ANYWHERE close to be setup to be running in the 13's. 3.73's and some mufflers DEFINATELY wont put you anywhere near that... Let me put it into perspective... I drive a Cobra and im probably only going to be in the mid 13's and ive got a DOHC Engine, and thats being only a few hundred feet above sea level. Maybe if you had, say 4.10's, LT headers and Off-Road X, CAI, Underdrive Pulleys, and a solid tune, you might be in the low fourteens/extremely high 13's. __________________ Chris "Shambles" Chamblee

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09-15-2005, 07:36 PM	#42 (permalink)
Shambles The Baninator! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Springfield, PA Posts: 2,652	HAHAHAHAHAHA O GOD...YOU KILL ME... Yeah ok lets think about this... I have a 96 Cobra...stock im churning out about 255-260RWHP. If your going by the "unmodded GT" theory, that means that the fastest FACTORY UNMODDED GT (pre-05) is pushing 260HP AT THE FLYWHEEL. Your pushin at least 230HP to the rear wheels. If I run my car stock, im going to run a 14.1 to a 13.9 Stock. If you run your car stock, you are in the high fourteens. There is NO WAY you can tell me, that his car, which came base with 215 HP (flywheel) engine, is running faster than my car with a 300HP (flywheel) Stock engine. Maybe if hes driving around on nothing but the engine and the bare minimum systems, no body paneling, heavy rimes, or anything, then I could POSSIBLY see a low time like that from that car. Otherwise, forget it, even at SAE corrected times there is no way that car would be running 13's. Lemme see this timeslip from this so called Stock GT running 13's. If your referring to 05's I might believe it, for they are rated at 300HP at the flywheel, but theyre also a heavier car, which means I doubt an 05 could pull it off either. __________________ Chris "Shambles" Chamblee

09-15-2005, 07:53 PM	#44 (permalink)
Badfish Listen to reggae. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 9,146	and besides even if I did somehow find that timeslip from ages ago, i wouldnt beable to convince you that it was stock anyway __________________ '04 2.3l Evo '86 GSXR 750

09-15-2005, 08:14 PM	#45 (permalink)
Shambles The Baninator! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Springfield, PA Posts: 2,652	Dude, not at all..nowhere close. You with that body weight you need to have at least 260 RWHP to run in the 13's. Your gonna tell me that his car, which has the EXACT SAME body style, dimensions, and approximately the same weight, is going to run FASTER with less RPMS? HELLO!! LITTLE LESSON IN PHYSICS HERE. MORE HP MEANS MORE GO FAST POWER. I challenge you to find me a STOCK, and I want BONE STOCK, GT from 96-04 that can run a true 13.7 seconds. And some of that info has been posted here, where I ask you. Cite me a post. Now. Go search. Find me one. The 01 GT without modification is NOT going to be able to run in the 13's, EVEN WITH an INCREDIBLY GOOD driver without powershifting. Yes I read the article that had the Bullitt that was in the 13's, but the Bullitt isnt a GT, even though the platform is the same (Throttle Body and Intake system varies by a TON, plus the suspension system drops the center of gravity on the car, enabling it to move a bit quicker.) You cant get into the thirteens putting this down for power: 231.7HP @ 5150 RPM with Stock Gears. Forget it. Not Happening. And the T-45 isnt that bad. Its actually a pretty damn good Tranny if you firm it up a bit and give it a good clutch to run on. Dont quote what you dont know. Where are your time slips? __________________ Chris "Shambles" Chamblee

09-15-2005, 08:37 PM	#46 (permalink)
Badfish Listen to reggae. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 9,146	I wasnt saying HIS gt, its a non pi gt...but an 01+ gt can And I really dont care if you beleive me or not because i'm not going to waste my time and put out the effort to prove something I already know...either way its irrelevant wether it happened or not, so arguing is pointless...so ill keep on knowing that an 01 gt can run 13's and youll keep beleiving it can never happen and BTW the t-45 is a POS no matter what you do to it __________________ '04 2.3l Evo '86 GSXR 750

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09-15-2005, 09:22 PM	#50 (permalink)
Shambles The Baninator! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Springfield, PA Posts: 2,652	You wanna come out here and say that to my face springs...im sure my "Slow Cobra" would romp your GT hands down. Trust me, you didnt run a 13.7. And until you provide the slips, its all bull****. Im already starting to push ~275RWHP right now, with an exhaust I should be even closer to 300. I dont think youll be coming anywhere close to me should you come against me on the track. __________________ Chris "Shambles" Chamblee