i'm looking for around 250+ HP. I thought about just going with spray...

 

for sale sign and pick up a GT or cobra and have your horsepower goal

 

But barely.


I'd go with mysteed's M112 kit once he starts sending those out, I'd say it's around $2700 for his kit, another $400-500 for a tuner from VMPtuning,a new hood (3" cowl atleast) and some boost gauges and you're good to go, supposed to get around 260-270rwhp with it. Faster than a GT.

 

 

hoe much do you think a custom turbo setup would run me?

 

still not worth it in my eyes. i added all of that stuff up and if you sold the V6 and used the money for all the stuff above you will have a better sounding car and still go just as fast on the strip.

 

pcolav6 who makes the kit your talkin about and do you have a site for it?

 

http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/

there is some info on it.

TorkTech is making a similar setup for the 2V V8's.
Cost i about 3,600 for a non intercooled setup though

i wonder if they will sell them without the M112, on Superchargersonline you can buy a rebuilt M112 for 700 bucks.

 

Yah unless you put TorkTechs m112 intake/setup on a V8, then yer sitting around 350+


Mod for Mod, V8s always win.

 

Well I suppose it depends on whose eyes you're looking through. 99-04 GT's in my area are still selling for 13-16K. My V6 was 7200. About $11000 for a ~270rwhp V6 is definitely worth it in my eyes. GT's barely dyno 250 to the wheels. Plus all it would take to get more power out of the S/C is a smaller pulley and you'd be seeing over 300rwhp/310rwtq, but of course with that you would need an 8.8" rear, and some better internals wouldn't hurt, but you would stay under 16k total cost for all of that...to a lot of people, that's worth it.


Yeah but with that the price difference jumps up a lot. lol


Da2k17, the kit is a cobra m112 blower that has an adapter made to fit on the 3.8, mysteed, a member here and on 3.8mustangs is working on piecing together full kits that come with everything needed save a tune and boost gauges to get a lot more power for around $2600-2800.

 

ok, what a basic setup i can go with that can get me a mim. of 250HP? but im wanting it to be there 24/7. i'm thinking of just getting a S/C later down the road.

 

that seems like it will be a really nice kit, i was gonna get a procharger but there just a little out of my price range right not but that m112 kit would be just fine price wise the only thing i dont like is having to get a cowl hood

 

Yeah that's the only drawback I see of the whole thing, the cobra R hoods will clear it, the 03-04 cobra hood won't, though.

 

i was actually goona get a cobra r carbon fiber hood so if that does fit ill just get it sooner than expected, but still thats a really good deal for a nice kit

 

where can purchase the m112 kit?

 

So its going to be $2700 plus a hood $400-500 plus painting that hood $250-$350 plus tune $550. All for only 250-270rwhp? no thanks I'll take a Procharger 11psi kit and make close or over 300rwhp with a 3.8 and full exhaust.

 

i agree. although a roots would be fun.

i have had no problems with my kit other than i wish it was a D-1.


and the guy that always says just buy a GT never puts in the cost switch of the swap, just the mods.

hell for that matter go buy an 03 cobra + 7k HPP twins and run 700+rwhp..ya im awsome.(my dream car)

 

only what the block can handle... and the 3.8's are passing the Gt's on that platform.

638rwhp to date on production block with no supporting block mods. It will be interesting to see the breaking point of the stock block.

for the 5.0 block that is about 480-500rwhp the block starts to split.

 

The M112 kit is only at 6-8psi, with 11 psi on that you could be seeing as much power as the procharger, and the M112 is probably an easier do-it-yourself install than a procharger (mysteed's going to ship it with full instructions for people who don't know what they're doing). Plus you also have to get a tune with the procharger too so it's not like you're saving any money.

And roots superchargers are just cooler.

 

yeah I think psi for psi the kits are very similar power wise. I fully agree the roots style blower is awesome. Can't say don't do the 2cyl mod since that is the root I am going, hopefully.

 

pcolav6 do you have a site for mysteed or any way to contact him, i sent him a message about the m112 kit be he hasent got back to me. im really interested in this kit and want to find out ore about it.

 

He frequents the www.3.8mustang.com forums more than this one.

Here's his thread about it
http://3.8mustang.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206282

 

thanks

 

Does it come with all the fuel upgrades? Justins kit from VMPtuning.com comes with everything including fuel upgrades,tune, everything to install and go.

I dont think a kit where you have to pull your entire intake manifold setup will be easier to install than a procharger setup that just bolts onto the front of the car. I did a procharger setup on teal beast car. We had it on in around 3-4 hours.

Oh yeah ment to ask is this kit going to be intercooled?

 

it will not be intercooled, but here is the parts list:
Originally Posted by mysteed View Post
Ok guy's here's the total parts list for what is included in the kit. I've tried to find the cheapest parts out there in order to keep the price a low as possible. The ESTIMATED price for the kit is listed below the parts list. As always, any and all feedback is greatly appreciated.

2003-2004 Cobra M112 Supercharger
2003-2004 Cobra plenum
2003-2004 Cobra throttle body
2003-2004 Cobra 39lb injectors
2003-2004 Cobra 90MM MAF
2003-2004 Cobra boost bypass
2003-2004 Cobra supercharger pulley
2003-2004 Cobra throttle and cruise control bracket
2003-2004 Cobra air intake tube
2003-2004 Corbra TPS sensor
2003-2004 Cobra M112 supercharger gasket- RTV sealant
2003-2004 Cobra plenum gasket
2003-2004 Cobra throttlebody gasket
2003/2004 Cobra fuel injector O-rings
1999-2004 Mustang V6 upper intake gasket
M112 intake adaptor
PCV delete
Tuning EGR delete
IAT relocation
CNC MAF flange
255lph fuel pump (94-97 cars) or 310lph fuel pump (98-04 cars)
NGK TR7IX spark plugs
Gatorback belt #4061182 or 6PK3002(metric part number)
Air Filter
M112 EGR delete
12 bolts for adapter to V6 lower intake
12 washers for intake bolts
10 bolts for M112 to adapter
4 bolts for the plenum to the M112
4 bolts for the throttlebody to the plenum
4 bolts for the MAF to CNC flange
2 bolts for IAC delete to plenum
2 bolts for IAC relocation
2 bolts for IAT relocation to M112
2 bolts for Cobra throttle cable bracket
2 clamps for air filter
Vaccume caps for air intake (optional if keeping the PCV system)


Custom made pieces:
03/04 Cobra EGR delete
Coli pack bracket
Radiator hose
PCV system (optional)
IAC relocation
IAC blockoff plate
Idler pulley setup
IAT relocation plate
IAT gasket
Shave off intercooler lip
Longer wiring for IAT relocation



The total ESTIMATED cost for the entire kit will be $2,650

 

I would not put a Heaton on my car without an intercooler...

 

+1

2 cylinder mod is better

 

+2

hell drive to md and i will sell you mine for 13k the way it sits.

 

actually the p-1sc will produce more power than the m112. that is proven when the cobras switch to the p-1sc from the m112 and improve their numbers. now that's not to say the m112 for the money wouldnt get you to where you wanted to go. It would as be cooler and more fun on the street with the instant boost.

but ya the m112 can definitely handle more psi. i beleive the cobras take them to 13-14psi and then port them and go to 15-16psi.

I plan to go turbo when i can.

 

i put 1800 down on a new set of heads, Cam, and upper/lower intake and 56MM BBK throttle body with tune, and i am making more HP than a same-year stock GT. i got my V6 for 4 grand, GT's are selling for 6K-8K. getting the mods i mentioned, i am making as much as, or more HP than the GT and still spending less. so stuff it with your "GET A GT HARHAR".

3K bucks for 65 HP vortech SC aint worth it. just get the Super Six Motorsports 'powerpak'. you get as much HP without spending so much. and if you do get a SC later on after those mods, you make a LOT more HP because you have better heads/cam.

EDIT: www.supersixmotorsports.com (take a gander at their powerpak section)