Plans for nitrous
#32
11-08-2006, 04:59 PM
The focus pump flows more, which means when the computer demands more fuel it will be able to supply more fuel to the engine and recover faster from the lean spike.
#33
11-08-2006, 05:02 PM
[QUOTE=03gtmustang;221587]
Ok so could someone explain to me why now. I don't see how a better flowing pump can react quicker when the action of reacting comes from the computer.
Ok so could someone explain to me why now. I don't see how a better flowing pump can react quicker when the action of reacting comes from the computer.
#34
11-08-2006, 05:04 PM
[QUOTE=cuban3jumper;221590]I have no idea, but your car looks awesome - LOL
#36
11-08-2006, 05:07 PM
Under $1300 minus gauges, gonna try to do a little better. That's the most for whats necessary. (Nozzle kit, GenX-2, spark plugs, msd window switch, MT switch, focus fuel pump, dyno tune)
#37
11-08-2006, 05:14 PM
Its not the reaction, its the amount of fuel flowing. The focus pump can flow more fuel thus recovering from the lean spike faster.
#38
11-08-2006, 05:57 PM
After reading these posts, how have you decided you want a Nozzle system....I'm confused
#39
11-08-2006, 07:30 PM
well, from what people are saying, the plate kit has a nasty lean spike, but also i know a good deal on the nozzle kit lol. what are the cons of the nozzle vs the plate? i figured either would be fine.
#40
11-08-2006, 07:48 PM
(OK, I will now go back to my corner)
#41
11-08-2006, 07:54 PM
You do bring up a good point...something you can do is get what you need to get the system to work....tune it eliminate the guages for now to what you need right away and then progressively build from there
I have the nitty gritty but the tune is the most important thing I could have
#42
11-08-2006, 07:56 PM
just remember, I have N/A cams.. a blower is out of the question! Plus, I want to still able to make N/A runs. The $1300 includes the dyno tune.. so you could say I'm still under $1800 for everything. That's almost $2000 away from a mongoose kit, plus I would need a cam swap to make the blower truely effective. Nitrous is the better route for what I want to do with this motor, for now.
When I did the cams I never planned to put boost on this motor, which is why I went the N/A route.. and I knew I would still have the option to spray, and the VT N/A cams looooove spray.
#43
11-08-2006, 07:57 PM
You do bring up a good point...something you can do is get what you need to get the system to work....tune it eliminate the guages for now to what you need right away and then progressively build from there
I have the nitty gritty but the tune is the most important thing I could have
I have the nitty gritty but the tune is the most important thing I could have
#44
11-08-2006, 08:20 PM
#45
11-08-2006, 08:31 PM
That makes no sence that would be more in the tune or the computers programming. I understand that a better fuel pump is well better but this is a mechanical limitation of a returnless system. That comes directly from tuners like Justin at VMP, my tuner and a few others I have heard have this discussion. The NX accumilater though seems to be a solution to the lean spike on a returnless car, check it out if you haven't. Kind of expensive as far as nitrous accesories go but if you're that concerned about the lean spike it's your answer.
#49
11-08-2006, 08:57 PM
And niether am I with a stock fuel pump. Of course the fact that you guys are making more power then me would warrant a fuel pump swap all I'm saying is from what I've seen and heard from others and myself in fact with similar cars and mods the addition of a better fuel pump does not necessarily negate the lean spike issue.
Ok anyways your plans sound great how much you planning on spraying? If you know you're not going over 125 go with a mainline kit, NX quality at a $200 less price tag.
Ok anyways your plans sound great how much you planning on spraying? If you know you're not going over 125 go with a mainline kit, NX quality at a $200 less price tag.
jk..haha
#52
11-09-2006, 05:54 AM
I thought you were refering to the NOS Nozzle kit that is direct port. A standard NX EFI single nossle kit if the way to go
#53
11-09-2006, 06:35 AM
basically it's the repair cost of a failure at each point. low fuel pressure causes really expensive catastrophic events like big detonation and subsequent broken pistons and rods. Low oil pressure causes spun bearings and scratched cylinder walls. It's cheaper to replace some bearings than it is to buy a new rotating kit or worse yet... a new block.
#54
11-09-2006, 10:02 AM
I still can belive you all have so much $$$ invested in your kits. I am still not over $700 in my kit + odd's and ends. Once i get a used heater and a tune i will be around mid-upper $900's thats it.
#55
11-09-2006, 02:27 PM
as far as I'm concerned... fuel pressure being too low can end you with a destroyed block. low oil pressure can wreck a bearing etc...
basically it's the repair cost of a failure at each point. low fuel pressure causes really expensive catastrophic events like big detonation and subsequent broken pistons and rods. Low oil pressure causes spun bearings and scratched cylinder walls. It's cheaper to replace some bearings than it is to buy a new rotating kit or worse yet... a new block.
basically it's the repair cost of a failure at each point. low fuel pressure causes really expensive catastrophic events like big detonation and subsequent broken pistons and rods. Low oil pressure causes spun bearings and scratched cylinder walls. It's cheaper to replace some bearings than it is to buy a new rotating kit or worse yet... a new block.
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